Mini 1238 - One After the Other - Over!

[monk]

VOTE: Killjoy

Are you voting or not? Doesn't look like it

[monk]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: pseudonymous
I don't like pseudonyms

[monk]

Unvote. Vote: Monk

- Two random votes, the first a second vote.

I set a trap, I didn't think you'd be the one to set it off, disappointing empking

VOTE: Empking

[monk]

Two objectives, find opportunistic scum, end rvs. Empking decided I was scum from the littlest thing lets go

[monk]

Monk isn't scum due to join date.

wut

[monk]

Monk, Y U End RVS? We don't even have everypony checked in yet.

I just don't like RVS it is largely distracting and I want to get out of it asap

[monk]

Empking, are we still in RVS?

[monk]

UNVOTE: Empking
He's town

I don't see the flailing from silk. However I do agree with Friend's analysis of Ash's posting. skimming is not cool

VOTE: Ashblade

[monk]

Whiskers you forgot some

[monk]

my bad I see what you did there now

[monk]

my bad I see what you did there now

Nope. I think I'm onto something here.

Whiskers you forgot some

What

was

this supposed to mean?

I was going to say that he thinks everyone else who has posted is null

[monk]

Vote: goddamnit

VOTE: monk

imma sheep ashblade here. Eh defends and attacks and doesn't afraid of anything.

More like, I'll sheep ashblade because monk is still pissing me off in [REDACTED]

[monk]

Yeah, but ashblade doesn't look scummy. Ashblade is Not Scum.

My point is that you are letting an ongoing game affect your play in this game, which is both anti-town and probably going against your win condition.

[monk]

So, ash why are you attacking me rather than the one who first brought up the case on you, think I'm just mindlessly sheeping?

[monk]

How is content, as an abstract idea in anyway a town tell? Surely what matters is the intent of the content

[monk]

I started isoing him with the intent to find scummy stuff to lynch, but Ash has probvided content on EVERY post so far.

Silly me for thinking that you had a real reason.

So what are you going to do with this information?

[monk]

Killjoy, you an alt?

[monk]

Why do you call me a newb, this is your first game onsite right?

Anyway I like your case on whiskers, however at the moment she's really letting her other games affect how she's playing here. While I don't like it I think that it would basically boil down to a policy lynch for me which gets me no information.

[monk]

Whiskers is very likely town just for saying that she wants to lynch Monk because of something that is happening in another game.

I'm not sure I agree with this, she isn't doing the same sort of scumhunting here, but that doesn't matter you shouldn't let another game affect how you play, it is incredibly anti-town and doesn't help anyone. A meta sample of two (the games I have played/other games playing with Whiskers) is not very good especially when she's as new as me and she's played a different game each one. And in any case I rarely play to meta so there's no point in using it in my opinion.

[monk]

Whiskers I said it to get more verbosity from Zdenek, showing why it's useless.

[monk]

He needs to vote more, I'll give you that.

*looks at where whiskers vote is*

It looks to me like you're trying to avoid suspicion on yourself, by having a vote out there which when called on it you withdrew and then calling people out for not voting.

[monk]

I thought that was a pretty substantial answer. The only thing that's

not

fluffy about your post on Zdenek is that in bold. And the bolded bit is strange.

VOTE: zdenek

You're pulling people up on nonsensical reasons have a vote flavoured cookie for your troubles

[monk]

This

The bold was the only thing of use from your post. How are you sure of that?

Is not a substantial answer.

I think it is

Mute, yes I was serious about avoiding the thread being scummy, yes that is the post I meant and yes I am sure that I am town.

I think the question is more, how do you know that Whiskers is town.

[monk]

so zdenek, you're changing your question from "what" to "why" I can tell you why I think that post is fluffy. You basically sheep around making any definitive reason why you don't like killjoy and fencesit on a few issues that you bring up. The post is in no way useful to see what is going on with your reads.

[monk]

mod: could we get a prod on pseudonymous

I think I see your case on pseudonymous Friend, but what differentiates him from Third Koopa who you say has very fluffy posts here

[monk]

Whiskers, why are you linking me with Pseudo?

[monk]

uh huh, misrep city there.

[monk]

so getting him to tell me why he's differentiated ThirdKoopa and pseudonymous is me playing buddy to pseudonymous ok

[monk]

Planning on contributing?

[monk]

VOTE: Pseudonymous

Seriously dude if you're going to contribute then do so, if not and meat world stuff is getting in the way then replace out

[monk]

Ok so Pseudonymous, is quickly moving into the I'm not willing to play the game lurker field so..
VOTE: zdenek

[monk]

So does anyone have a rationale reason for thinking Mute is town?

He's answered your questions, you're just trying to make it look as if he hasn't

[monk]

You're speaking in strong absolutes, accusing what, 3 or 4 people of being scum, and instead of voting them, you're voting for me and empking for asinine reasons. You're sitting on the fence because you're saying X, Y, and Z are scum, but not voting them. The way you word your responses speaks of whole-truths, and you always word them to be able to twist them to your liking upon being questioned.
You've stated indirectly (at least) twice you're confident about staying alive.
I aim to disprove that based on the reasons listed above.

You could be voting for X, Y or Z. Instead you're voting for A and B, which you don't really have reasons to do so.

[monk]

You've expressed that Pseudo, Ashblade and Killjoy are scum, yet when whiskers says, oh Ash is town, you unvote and vote for Empking, who you haven't mentioned before and have said nothing about. When I question whiskers about her read, you go oh I shouldn't have unvoted then instead of going back to Ashblade you do nothing, then when you express your opinion on Killjoy, (enough imo to vote for him) and then not vote him makes it a fluff post, it is also IIoA and not useful. You have put your vote in places that don't make sense.

[monk]

So you're going to continue to vote someone for meta reasons rather than for someone who you genuinely think is scummy?

[monk]

I'm not Mute

[monk]

The fact that you weren't willing to put a vote on Killjoy, says to me that you were trying to set something up without actually acting on it, which to me is a pretty scummy move

[monk]

well the motivation, would be to set up a bandwagon and not take responsibility for it. This is a scummy thing to do.

[monk]

So Zden, any particular reasons for your reads other than Mute, I have both of them in null land

[monk]

Scum reads that is

[monk]

Mute thoughts on Killjoy?
Killjoy thoughts on Mute?

[monk]

They are my two scum picks at the moment and neither of them have said anything about the other, that is the reasoning I could care less that they have votes on them

[monk]

Monk's an idiot. So he gets the benefit of the doubt.

Thanks sugar you don't look too bad yourself.

Wouldn't your time be spent calling monk out for being scum. "My scum reads happen to be the players with votes on them. Me totally scumhunting."

Because wondering why two of the more vocal players have no opinion nor have even mentioned each other is not analyzing and scumhunting, pull the other one.

Less fluffy post today when its not 1 in the morning, lets aim for about 11 hours time

[monk]

VOTE: Killjoy
This is where my vote should be and the reason Killjoy wins this lucky prize is:
In this post He links together Whiskers and Zed, calling both out on their wishy washy behaviour and voting Zed.
Then in this post He calls Whiskers scummier than Zed and decides not to move his vote, he doesn't do this for nearly another 100 posts(2hrs) but he decides that rather than voting for Whiskers he wants to reread and reassess the wagon he's on, it doesn't make sense with what he has said his current reads are.

This post, this post is quite a fluff piece, but also interesting:

Ya. I have been looking at his games his meta is to give curt replies with not much analysis. Gonna be a problem unless he is cleared through actions and all that jazz.

My reads on Everyone are just glances at their playing style. I felt comfortable with Zed as scum, but the others, especially after Zed's flip do not give me confidence.

Losing the Jailkeeper also lowers my confidence since I headed that lynch. :/

I feel like Mute wouldn't push that hard on a player who would flip a very pro-town power.

He claims sorrow over the Day 1 mislynch, even though it was myself and Mute who were pushing it, it seems to me that he's just fluffing around wanting to see who will be carried away he's wary of being in the spotlight and doesn't want to go there so is AtE as much as he can for his survival.

[monk]

Whiskers you are about as useful as a haddock in heat. In fact I think you are being uncharacteristically fluffy.

Major FoS Whiskers

[monk]

Whiskers you're posting quite a lot but you're not actually saying anything.
Top scum picks with reasons, go!

[monk]

Whiskers, I still want your scum picks and reasoning

Pseudo, is that all that's going to convince you to hop off? It looks very cautious.

[monk]

Ashblade, do you think that Whiskers is scummy for his wishy washyness or just being unhelpful? Also thoughts on her sheeping Pseudo's reasons for voting Chk even though pseudo is no longer voting him?

[monk]

Hey whiskers, you like avoiding this game, would love some actual input from you.
In fact this game is getting to where I'd call it stalled.
Heyo
VOTE: Whiskers
Not answering my questions and being incredibly flippant

[monk]

Empking I haven't actually seen any evidence of your scumhunting, it's magical isn't it?

You also placed suspicion on myself and Friend before the end of day one and then without any prompting or anything voted Killjoy at the start of the day. You have continuously egged other people to fight and not really done anything else.

[monk]

VOTE: Killjoy
This is where my vote should be and the reason Killjoy wins this lucky prize is:
In this post He links together Whiskers and Zed, calling both out on their wishy washy behaviour and voting Zed.
Then in this post He calls Whiskers scummier than Zed and decides not to move his vote, he doesn't do this for nearly another 100 posts(2hrs) but he decides that rather than voting for Whiskers he wants to reread and reassess the wagon he's on, it doesn't make sense with what he has said his current reads are.

This post, this post is quite a fluff piece, but also interesting:

Ya. I have been looking at his games his meta is to give curt replies with not much analysis. Gonna be a problem unless he is cleared through actions and all that jazz.

My reads on Everyone are just glances at their playing style. I felt comfortable with Zed as scum, but the others, especially after Zed's flip do not give me confidence.

Losing the Jailkeeper also lowers my confidence since I headed that lynch. :/

I feel like Mute wouldn't push that hard on a player who would flip a very pro-town power.

He claims sorrow over the Day 1 mislynch, even though it was myself and Mute who were pushing it, it seems to me that he's just fluffing around wanting to see who will be carried away he's wary of being in the spotlight and doesn't want to go there so is AtE as much as he can for his survival.

Empking, Is this just chopped liver then?

[monk]

have to agree with whiskers, while I don't necessarily expect you to unvote, I'd like to know what the difference between my scum hunting and yours is that you claim yours is the only one seen in this thread

[monk]

have to agree with whiskers, while I don't necessarily expect you to unvote, I'd like to know what the difference between my scum hunting and yours is, that you claim yours is the only one seen in this thread

punctuation ftw

[monk]

HEY MONK: YOU WANTED MY READS. PLEASE AKNOWLEDGE THAT THEY ARE THERE AND STUFF.

They're there, just about to reread them

[monk]

I like your reads on chkflip, after his replace in all he seems to be doing is piping up here and there not really contributing much, sheeping the biggest wagon. Possible scum. You're reads are towny to me.
UNVOTE:

[monk]

Guys: ISO Nopony Special with his predecessor, Mute.

Mute makes a case against Zdenek. Zdenek gets lynched, Mute says, "Oh, I'm not gonna vote yet." Then replaces out.
Nopony Special, votes for Killjoy (for no reason), votes for Killjoy harder (for no reason), asks why everypony isn't voting for Killjoy, claims to be town, and then sheeps Empking and Hiraki in voting for monk (for no reason).

There you go. Scum found.

How many players do we have? Imma say there's scum in Chkflip, Whispersilk, (for staging a big town-on-town). Nopony Special, Hiraki, maybe Empking. Killjoy is scummy, but I'm willing to let her go because most of the scumtells on her (if I remember correctly) are actually just EpicMafia.com-tells.

So you're saying that the town on town we had earlier between Friend and Whispersilk could have actually been scum on scum? I'll have a reread

[monk]

Chkflip and whiskers are not likely to be scum together, but one of them is. I'd say there's likely to be another one or two scum in (Ashblade, Killjoy, Pseudo)

[monk]

Killjoy, if you don't think I'm scum then don't vote me

[monk]

chk, who do you think could be scum when I flip town?

[monk]

Still not liking Pseudo, growing a distaste for whisper and to an extent Ash.

But you're flipping scum.

really? Guess I must be a miller then

[monk]

You want a hammer? Fine.

unvote

Vote: Monk

There you go.

That's not a hammer, it's L-1

[monk]

Killjoy why is the fake hammer not town?

[monk]

Empking sprung it by voting for me.

1. Vote
2. Vote
3. get voted
4. OMGUS vote
5. ???
6. Profit!

Uh yes.

Especially after the mood swing in #591.

He's riding opportunity like a bitch there.

Really, that was a mood swing? It was a list of my reads I'm not allowed to reassess my reads? FFS

[monk]

VOTE: monk
bah deadline
also I'm town

Scum is there:

Chkflip and whiskers are not likely to be scum together, but one of them is. I'd say there's likely to be another one or two scum in (Ashblade, Killjoy, Pseudo)