The Children of Húrin Mafia (GREAT REVIVAL)

[SpyreX]

Get yer votes off me I'm a magical princess.

PUT THEM WHERE THEY BELONG

Unvote, Vote: Gandalf

[SpyreX]

Page 4 lynch. Page 4 lynch.

[SpyreX]

You know who.

I have a feeling I know whats going on but I'M NOT SPOILING THIS.

Blood for a pretty princess

[SpyreX]

Its page 5.

I'm disappointed in the lot of you.

[SpyreX]

Why would you vote me?

*bats eyelashes*

I'm just a beeeauutiful princess in this dark scary world.

Not like Gandalf: TIME COP

[SpyreX]

I am also flavor ignorant.

(and a beautiful princess)

[SpyreX]

OK,

Who is LoL? I mean I, as a beautiful princess, do giggle and lol but who IS LoL?

Esp's reasons for not voting gandalf are skeeetch

[SpyreX]

Its went right to plaid.

Gandalf is drinking madness and everyone AGREES its madness but keeps pish poshing him being dead.

Andy apparently doesn't have a wincon so can get shot in the face (sorry bro).

I'm a beautiful princess.

Most other stuff is ancillary and good lord if I have to put the angry hat on to explain why gandalf-gate is never, ever, ever, ever going to end welp.

[SpyreX]

I’m now sad … you drew scum this game didn’t you Spyrex? Playing with scum Spyrex is a chore (StarsAligned 3, Ooba's Game of Thrones recent large). But I think you probably did draw scum. Because Town Vig Spyrex saw this whole song and dance from Gandalf the last time and mis-vigged him. And Town Spyrex knows for sure that early lynches for lulz in Large Themes (aka Invictus) are terrible.

Now, I'm just a beautiful princess afterall and not known for renown with words and what have you but I'm pretty sure you're drawing some kind of parallel with my princess duties here and those of other fair princesses there. Which, knowing those princessess like I do, is a pile of balrog droppings. Pretty sure anyone with even a cursory knowledge of anything should, and will, laugh and laugh.

As for Gandalf, now versus then, the change is very clear and I'll stamp my perfect little foot. See, my perfect and ample busom wouldn't let me draw back a bow to take care of these issues myself. Unlike, apparently, the amazon who could draw said bow and protect herself before.

Also, considering I want Andy dead as well for (now) the same gimmick should speak very strongly I don't think this was for lulz. Yet, lo and behold, we've now seen the time cop claim his business was for lulz.

Yea, I'm fine with both of them becoming vapors. Especially after Andy, so uncouthly, insinuated I'm a third party.

[SpyreX]

I'm at a comfortable temperature right now, although you are a doll for asking.

[SpyreX]

On another note, what is with the crumbing already? The game barely started and 3 people felt the need to crumb a role immediately. What is that? I am having a hard time finding the town motive of starting a game like that, especially when it is just as likely you have that role as a fakeclaim glares at Spyrex.

*shy glance*

Whatever do you mean? What role could I, a beautiful princess, be crumbing? Princesses have nothing to do with crumbs, they're too messy.

On a real note, though:

MoI, this is a simple yes/no that I never thought I'd actually have to ask:

You're saying my play here somehow mimics my other play as scum?

[SpyreX]

Additionally Kayne and Kats are both well educated and serve as excellent knights of justice and goodness for such a beautiful princes.

[SpyreX]

The way to a woman's heart is not by telling her other women are beautiful. *huff*

[SpyreX]

If you can promise me a strapping young hero will take care of certain other issues, then yes.

[SpyreX]

Nothing makes a princess more huffy than being ignored.

Orr, what is the difference between how Kayne approached it and, ohh, me?

[SpyreX]

No. I think your play here doesn’t make sense from a Town perspective given the things I know Town Spyrex has seen. Subtle but important difference.

While its still wrong, it at least means you're a dashing young knight more likely than not.

Chrono sure used a lot of words to say very little. Even more than when the princesses all get together at the beautiful princess club.

Unvote, Vote: Chrono

[SpyreX]

Pish posh.

Unvote, Vote: Lord Chrono

[SpyreX]

Jay isn't a beautiful princess, like myself, but would make a great lady in waiting. The heart is in the right place if not the end result.

[SpyreX]

Spoiler:

katsuki has many scumpoints, and I would be probably be down with a kats wagon.

I saw MoI make a constructive post, katsuki try to dismiss it with a pointless oneliner, then MoI unfortunately stopped posting seriously and came down to katsuki's level, and they weren't getting anywhere after that. MoI, don't dignify 366 with a response. Terrible scum tactic: trying to derail the thread with insults and hope kanye slips under the radar.

So, at princess school I did take some classes that help me parse things like this but I want to be absolutely sure I've got this right.

Not only is Kat scum but Kat is scum with kanye?

[SpyreX]

spyrex, urwin - ning with an e?
why aren't we lynchin' ye?

*pout*

I'm not sure what you're getting at here and I sure haven't crumbed anything about anything.

Crumbs are icky and make ants and spiders come. You know how much I hate cobwebs in my hair, afterall!

[SpyreX]

Are you a Beautiful Princess figuratively, or literally?

Well, my figure is Beautiful and I literally am a Princess so I'm not sure what you're asking about you forward young rogue.

Perhaps you'd be a doll and help me figure out what's going on with the kkb wagon because it's over my perfectly formed little head.

[SpyreX]

So, lets go ahead and sweep the "flavor cleared" business out like last years dress because it is sooo out of fashion now.

Andy says there is one convoluted scenario where both of them are going to be town. Gandalf lied about this business until AFTER Andy claimed it.

This is easy enough it makes a beautiful princess blush.

[SpyreX]

I can't count past the number of fingers on my hand but even I know that from

your own mouth

the number of scenarios you say where this makes sense is 1.

I'm pretty sure that the number where it doesn't is larger than 1.

[SpyreX]

And no, don't think this means I've forgot about the Chrono twins. I wouldn't be said if they got conscripted to fight for my daddy as catapult fodder.

Unvote, Vote: Gandalf

[SpyreX]

The wagons on LC and Gandalf are scumdriven. I will join any lynch on KKB, Katsuki/Feysal, or Spyrex today without needing to be persuaded.

Is "lynch" code for "give a wonderful party to the most wonderful person"?

I'm magnificent in all ways and can do no wrong.
Kat's town and that "replacement" was pure irritation that I'd bet my life is from town.
KKB

is still right about wanting them to be dead

.

Both of them. If I could lynch myself to make both of them dead I would because it will be a net gain.

I can't though because I'd break a nail and that is just soooo uncool.

If that's not going to happen I'm going to implore the wagons to consolidate against this Kat wagon. Be it gandalf, will of the wisp or LC.

All of those are far, far better choices.

[SpyreX]

While I love how many dashing young fellows are just betwixed by my beauty I wouldn't advise letting it go to your heads.

I do have a question though:

I really don't know what I'm doing now. I could really use some help(I think it's possible that there's some role that might be able to restore my memories, was trying to signal them). I think Plum gave me this role just to fuck with me.

Now I'm not the most learned princess but I do know my letters and numbers.

The interesting part about this is the piece in the parenthesis, the addition, was not part of the initial fairly vague business.

[SpyreX]

I’ll have to look back but were either WoW or LC on the Gandalf lulz wagon? If so then don’t expect any support from me without more than “I’m a Princess” unless it is a lurker lynch in which case I might join LC.

But what do you think of Espeonage? He’s on that horrid Gandalf wagon, isn’t providing any content, and generally is scumtastic. Would you support that wagon?

What about Empking? Up for an Empking scum lynch?

LC was on the Gan wagon.
WoW was turbo Gan defense and on the Kayne wagon.

*twirls hair*

See, good sir, here's the problem I've got this game and I'll freely admit it to such a strong warrior. I can't separate the weeds from the actual poisonous bushes. There's a few shining beacons I see but, overall, its very dark and cold and full of wolves.

If we were to cut to the heart of things:

If you have less posts than Plum, I would support you being sent away from my beautiful castle.
If you "don't know what your role is", I would support you being sent away from my beautiful castle.

Aside from that I've got very strong feelings about KKB, Furc and you. I've got decent feelings about Kat, Empking and PV. Elli is a gut read.

Everyone else? In the dross.

[SpyreX]

Silly Feysal, you're not GIVEN the role of a princess, you're born into it.

Into beauty and fame and gloorrrious parties because, well, you deserve it more.

These wagons do not make me happy at all. At all.

[SpyreX]

Um, so? I have attacked strongly the Gand wagon also and don’t have a Town read at all on KKB. I’ll certainly vote KKB on uselessness and the Gandalf wagon as needed. Yet you have a Town read on me apparently. I'm confused ...

*stamps foot*

I’ll have to look back but were either WoW or LC on the Gandalf lulz wagon? If so then don’t expect any support from me without more than “I’m a Princess” unless it is a lurker lynch in which case I might join LC.

I was just answering your own question good sir.

At least you agree that there is a whole bunch of Meh in this game then. I’ll not bother you while you brush your hair, at least for the moment.

Too much Meh. Far, far too much. Enough that if that Meh ended up being all town I'd put all my money on a scum win right here.

[SpyreX]

Aside from that I've got very strong feelings Image about KKB,

Furc

and you. I've got decent feelings about Kat, Empking and PV. Elli is a gut read.

Everyone else? In the dross.

And I thought princesses could be catty.

And wrong.

And catty

[SpyreX]

If I were to wager a guess it'd be because this is Town Magna.

Much like Seraph 1 is Town from the stories. Its the kind of tales of dashing knights and heroic heroics that make a young girl swoon.

[SpyreX]

*pout*

These are the first KKB posts I haven't liked.

I really dont like them though.

[SpyreX]

Someday, in a more beautiful world, someone will explain to me how the simple fact I am a beautiful princess is both trolling and anti-town. My flowing locks and rosy cheeks don't detract from the fact the words I'm saying have meaning.

Of course, in that beautiful world, someone, nay, anyone, would actually be able to explain this wagon to me.

[SpyreX]

This reminds me, I had a question for you in 550, and I would still like to know the answer to that as well.

I'll answer the question being KKB being town has a whole lot to do with Andy being lynched. The apathy KKB has late doesn't make my heart aflutter but, in my heart of hearts, I understand it.

Now, if you're referring to the question posed to me based on libelous (tee hee my princess a day word catalog came in useful) posts attributed to such a fair maiden well I can't help you.

The only thing giving me pause is how matched these wagons are. That, so my tutors tell me, would make one believe that ONE of the two are scum. Normally a town wagon would just push through by now.

The problem is I find both of them to be gentlemen and scholars. Part of my princessly selfishness would love to see eveyone else not on those wagons commit them both to L-1 and let me escort a gentleman from my castle.

[SpyreX]

Of course I'm not. This is not a world where the dreams of princesses come true.

Ohh how I wish I was in a Disney cartoon.

[SpyreX]

This is the millionth time my being a princess has been brought up as if its some cover for not saying anything.

This is the millionth time it has also been wrong. Two hundred and fifty thousand times in and perhaps it could be a mistake, but a million? No.

The chances of both of you being town are minimal. Gandalf has opted to play like scum as well as teehee TIME COP. If I could defenestrate the both of you I would because I am that sure the net gain is at least one dead scum.

Both of these wagons are bad. I want nothing to do with either of them.

[SpyreX]

For your lies and falsehoods I will see you in a grave.

There is none prettier in the land than I. NONE.

I am A BEAUTIFUL PRINCESS.

[SpyreX]

Now that will make a girl swoon.

Unvote, Vote: PeregrineV

Do you by chance have a fancy castle? I'd be a good bride?

[SpyreX]

My favorite part about this is just like at a dinner party when you all get together and start gossiping about a girl and, lo and behold, moments later she shows up and starts tittering on.

Its like they can smell it.

Or, perhaps, like they've been listening all along.

[SpyreX]

Are you trying to peer into a Beautiful Princesses bedroom? To read my diary and see my secrets.

Well I never. Such a rogue has no place in this castle!

[SpyreX]

A pretty princess has princessly duties to take care of before she can give this the full attention it deserves.

However, I, for one, don't feel bad about the events of yesterday. Just the result.

MoI makes many dashing good points but none better than:

Ok Dekes is scum? Why you ask? Because HE WAS ALREADY VOTING PERE WHEN HE POSTED THIS.

Hard to believe he suddenly was convinced Pere was scum by the Feysal case when he supposedly already had a scum read on Pere and was voting him.

Scumtastic.

[SpyreX]

And now we wait with baited breath and quivering bosom for Andrius to show up.

[SpyreX]

Why didn’t you vote Dekes then?

I... thought I did?

Wow. Some days a princess should just stay in bed.

Unvote, Vote: Dekes

[SpyreX]

Now, in princess school, one of the subjects I had to deal with was logic puzzles.

Ohh those knights and knaves. They were nothing but a source of endless frustration.

However, there was one thing I learned really quick: you can never tell a knight from a knave by asking them if they are a knight or a knave.

My daddy bought me a new village for learning that.

The question here is, of course: why are some people apparently missing the point of that? I mean, my assets have never been in the world of books, and even I know better.

[SpyreX]

Asking a knave or a knight will always give you the same result.

One can't differentiate that way. Sheesh.

However, this is for another time. For the now, my princessly brain is trying to figure out why when someone says there's one angle in which this dual I dont know my role business can parse out and it doesn't.....

Why the absence of response.

[SpyreX]

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 6#p3415546

[SpyreX]

Sometimes we have to look into our glorious mirror to see

our perfect perfection

our flaws.

[SpyreX]

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 7#p3478697

The answers, lie in the mists.

Time to try on dresses!

[SpyreX]

Well I just got out of a warm bath and there was this scroll sitting here from my chamberlain. Instead of trying to read all the hard words I figured I'd just go ahead and show it to you all:

Dear Townsfolk,

What in the hell are you guys on?

Lynching Feysal under the guise of "SK's can't be leashed" actually hurt me so bad the doctors had to come and administer the leeches. While a true statement on paper,

look at this gamestate

. His only method of actually having any chance at winning is not going off the rails and, call this a hunch, him telling the truth means it isn't actually a real SK.

Further, when you've got "players" like Sun & Moon that need to be evaporated and no one ELSE is stepping up to the plate why not use the rabid dog UNTIL it has to be put down - before a massclaim occurs which would be far, far too much to handle.

Do I need more evidence? MoI, look who toed the line super quick: VitaminR, aka I'm just useless enough that I'm not going to be lynched even though I really need to be dead, and Andrius, aka I dont even have a role guyz and that whole business about flavor and gandalf has been put into the rubbish bin and I didn't even pretend to blink an eye at it.

This doesn't even INCLUDE business that will have to happen like Dekes, Chronos, Elli, or Will of the Wisp or even KKB (who is still a bad idea but I digress).

See that list of people I want dead? 7. You're lookin at the difference between Day 9 and Day 5.

Put together a list of like 4-5 names, let him go to town on making them no longer be here.

And lynch Dekes in the meantime.

Look, now I need the leeches again,

Sir Reginald Wirebottom, Esq.

[SpyreX]

Luckily my chamberlain is prescient and left this under my bed.

Dear Townspeople,

Here is what I propose.

1.) Make a list of approximately 5 names of people that need to die (this shouldn't be hard)
2.) Feysal then kills people from that list.
3.) NO ONE, under punishment of death, targets any of the aformentioned names with anything. You track someone to someone on the dead list? Dead. You get made neighbors with someone? Dead. Dead. Dead.

Then, we let natural selection do the rest.

A full fledged SK that bides for vig-cred and has it backfire N1 is both on drugs and fine to have around. Seriously, if we mow down a few scum then its something we can look at more but if it was possible to work WITH a modified lyncher (because thats closer to what this is) I'll do it every time and high-five right to a bloody, bloody win.

At the minimum I say revisit this when a few of the biggest malcontents are dead. Maybe the Seraphs will have some light to shed on this.

I am officially on the record saying this is a bad, bad lynch today.

Back to the leeches,

Sir Reginald Wirebottom, Esq.

(P.S. I liked Herod a lot but this preview post made me throw up a little bit. Thats like 2 more hours at the leeches and I am not amused)

[SpyreX]

This princess just had a little princess of her own - so I'll be a bit out of commission for a few.

[SpyreX]

I'm almost forced to break my princesslessly character at the sheer jaw-dropping level of paranoia above me.

MoI is p town. FURTHER, I'm 350% sure that alignment doesn't factor into the truthosity about the Seraphs one bit.

[SpyreX]

Since he's vanished and its not worth me breaking my princesslessly nails over that fight kkb can go.

When he's town posts like this:

I want a Kanye lynch today. In addition to everything I said about him yesterday, I'd like to remind everyone that several people have stated something to the effect of that either Kanye or Feysal must be scum given the turnaround on the wagon yesterday, and no one really objected to that sentiment, and in fact, it seems to have been pretty much accepted. So, to be painfully obvious, Feysal is claiming 3rd party, and Furc is backing him up, so that would suggest that said scum is Kanye.

Can be put in the shredder right?

[SpyreX]

Now I'm not a monster nor a monster slayer but I thought that a hydra, not just having teeth, had multiple heads with multiple mouths that could make multiple words.

Why would one head sticking itself in the dirt trying to find china stop the other one?

[SpyreX]

As a princess who hasn't been sleeping much and is frayed at the edges these pages are the worst pages.

This fight is as useful as a duck's echo.

Pick a direction and move.

[SpyreX]

Your vote is still on Dekes. We unfortunately aren’t getting a Dekes lynch today apparently. So to be useful yourself why don’t you translate your vote to somewhere where it might actually matter.

The same could be said for anywhere but KKB at the moment. So, I'll braid my hair and when it comes to that that is where it will go.

[SpyreX]

They could maybe pick a direction and move if you know, people like you weren't actively lurking.

Time to take off the princess gloves for a moment and take whatever punishment that may bring.

You know, between the just bringing a child home, having about 10 hours of sleep in the last week and pulling double shifts to maintain

I've still contributed more than over half the players in this game

.

Compare that to our team wonderbread hyrdas you and S&M who aren't even drooling on the keyboard and just are awol - it must just be one of those amazing coincidences caused by a butterfly farting in Mexico that LITERALLY MINUTES after getting called out for not posting for three days LO AND BEHOLD there you are. Almost like you've been here the whole time, huh?

This last back and forth with MoI and MoS is a lottttt of unnecessary words and its so much cleaner when MoI, WHO IS TOWN AND LITERALLY THE ONLY PERSON ACTUALLY PLAYING RIGHT NOW, just skips the fighting and gets right to the point like above.

My vote staying on Dekes isn't a function of actively lurking and if you were going to use your eyeballs to parse the pretty lines on the screen into a format that makes sense you'd see it for exactly what it is - me saying that when the chips are down KKB is going to be lynched and I WILL help that happen but its not my first choice by a longshot.

These above paragraphs now eclipse your play this entire game. Additionally I love the callout about me when, lo and behold, you're not even voting.

THIS RIGHT HERE is why Feysal needs to live. These things need to get purged with holy fire and fast.

But, for those playing at home:

MoI is town. Sadly, he is the only player at this point I am that confident about being town. And if somehow I'm wrong there GG because at this point he has my support until the dark times are over.

Andirus and Gandalf? Death.
Every hydra in this game but Gut (I think)? Death.
Dekes? Death.
Everyone on that list that can't even make a token effort in three days? Death.

MoI, I will give my opinions but at this juncture I am literally handing my vote over to you to do with as you see fit. Of the games I'm in I will freely admit this one is taking a back burner and that is in no small part to the issues you are bringing up now.

So, lets do it and now I'll go take my turn in the stockades.

Ohhh look at that P-Edit. Look at my absence of caring.

[SpyreX]

Fine. You want the gloves off, so be it. Not like the PR is going to be a huge loss anyhow.

I am sorry I don't know your life? I will give you that as I didn't realize how busy you are, but your posts have always been like active lurking in my opinion. Congratulations on the baby, though.

The point
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Your head

I'm not saying woe is me life is tough. I'm not saying thats an excuse (unlike some of the drivel you've done spewed out below). I'm saying that

in spite of all of the things going on in my life

my, given, lower amount of focus on this thread is infinitely more than what you've done.

So, whats your excuse? Your other head bugger off and that means you're incapable of saying anything while you're "reading along" this whole game? Yeeaaa thats gonna fly.

I have been here the whole time. I read this thread every day but I am really apathetic about a lot of it. There rarely ever seems to be anything to talk about, as MoI said, since 5 people are being the only active players in this game. Whenever something as bad as Day 1 and Night 1 occurs, I generally lose interest in a game. Losing a townie to a lynch for seemingly no explainable reason is disheartening. Combine that with the fact that our Doctor died, ya. Reminds me of my one and only newbie I played. Which was horrible.

Ohh boo hoo the doctor died and someone doing nothing (just like you hint) got lynched the world is a terrible place.

You know, that could ALMOST make sense if before these catastrophic events that have apparently never happened to you ever you were a paragon of activity and helpfulness....

ohh wait. Its been the status quo now and forever, hasn't it?

Just because you don't agree with something doesn't make it wrong. That to me is actively lurking. You pledge your allegiance to a lynch if it gets there, but you remain safe with a vote on someone else who is scummy incase they are lynched as well. You openly state this so that other people will not have a question when you do infact vote for Kanye later in the day. Actively lurking, to me at least, does not mean lurking and just avoiding prods, it is posting like a normal person, but not really contributing anything to the game. Your roleplaying is distracting. You have been asked countless times, nicely, to stop. When you get accused of something and you get angry, that is when you feel the need to stop roleplaying?

Well if we're going to just make up definitions for words now that don't actually even pretend to have relevance in the english language I'm going to refer to your play from now on as unabridged rollerskates and we'll just accept thats how it goes then.

As for the rest of this because this is the meat and potatoes of failure stew here:

1.) You have the gumption to go "look you're voting for someone who is scummy but you're willing to vote someone else GORSH". I think KKB is a substandard wagon. It was a bad wagon day 1 too. I've been very clear about that.

However, I'm damn well not going to sit and let things languish to protect someone who's done skittered off.

2.) Quiz: Who haven't I had stances on this game? Hint: that number is once again infinitely less than you. You herpaderped your way into *shock* a vote on the KKB wagon while giving the most timid little FoS out to pretend you care.

3.) YOUR ROLEPLAYING QQQQQ. Stuff it. Go ahead and, with quotes mind you we want our work shown round here, detail out these posts of mine that were SOOO HARD TO ASCERTAIN because I was having fun.

I'll wait with baited breath.

Because you know what my 'roleplaying' is? An excuse for people to latch onto to keep from actually commenting on whats going on. Believe you me when I get some time we'll go ahead down that list and then go down the list of people that need to be purged for either opting to not play or ALAS I HATH NO ROLES and when theres a perfect match there everyone else playing (MoI) can go OHHHHHHhhHhhhh wow.

4.) The finale is, of course, the simple fact that you in that slot have the stones to call someone else out for "not contributing" is well past just bad play. Thats a death warrant.

When the lurker shows up moments after getting called out for lurking its suspect.
When they go BUT MOOOMMMM look heee'sss doing it too promise its for death.

THE FIRE.
THE FURY.

YOU STOLE MY INNOCENCE. I WILL TAKE YOUR LIFE.

Unvote, Vote: Will-of-the-wisp

(when this doesn't happen I am begging that he gets moved waay up the death list. Wwaaaayyy up it).

[SpyreX]

Spyrex makes a lot of good points, except for #4. I don't think people should ever be admonished for calling out another player for not contributing, even if they themselves are not contributing much. It's a null tell at best.

Look at his definition of "active lurking" more than anything.

And there is something to be said with unabashedly calling someone out for something you're doing - its a very strong form of cognitive dissonance.

[SpyreX]

MoI I think you're missing what would be the best reason for scum flying to a third wagon D1:

This right here. A third wagon going through makes BOTH the D1 wagons still viable because of the situation we're running into right now. Theoretically you could power swing three mislynches in the right environment.

The flipside is that to do it right you'd either need a very competent scumteam across the boards OR daytalk OR we should be able to parse out obvious jumps.

The other thing (and I don't have the energy to do it especially to fight this): if KKB flips town which I STILL think he's going to - looking at who had definitive stances on those two D1; instinct says that a large part of why that went the way it did isn't the tech plan above but that scum positioned themselves in such a way that they COULDNT jump without it being hugely suspect.

That said, I just looked at KKB's activity and he was flat gone from the site and every post since he's got back is here. I'm, again, taking that stance that this ISNT a scum hiding in the bushes lurking and popping out (unlike WoW).

That also said I'm requesting that IF KKB does flip scum just do me a huge favor Feysal and kill me. I've invested enough in this read that if I'm wrong about it I'd want to lynch me if I wasn't me.

[SpyreX]

Look at this...

When MoI and MoS aren't bickering at each other its almost like...

wait for it

They're both town. *gasp*

[SpyreX]

(one of them will)
(its Andy)

[SpyreX]

Gee look at that things transpiring like expected.

Woooowwwww

[SpyreX]

If Vit is town and I were Feysal I'd be putting a bullet through Wraith or, as stupid as it is, KKB tonight.

[SpyreX]

I believe Sun and Moon and Espeonage to be superior shots hands down. They need to be serioudly made dead.

This is also true and I wouldn't blink for a minute.

The reason for the two I proposed is KKB needs to flip town so this game can unscrew itself and we can put the holy flames of death on the TWO WASTED DAYS of herfaderp there.

The Wraith is a function of OHH MY GOD YOU GUYS LOOK WHAT YOU DID OHH WAIT I DID IT TOOOO

[SpyreX]

Yes, yes it is.

I'm serious that I'm not going to fight the good fight if he actually flips scum and I can take the heat for being his most ardent defender.

I'm also serious that it isn't going to happen and everyone who has had POWER LOCKDOWN MOUDE on it is going to die.

[SpyreX]

MoI its time for magic

[SpyreX]

This sets my danger sense running wild Spyrex … did you somehow know what I was about to do?

I meant more a VCA but if THIS is what happens when I say that well then remind me to every game.

Unvote, Vote: Sun and Moon

I think we know what has to happen aside from this so BLOOD AND THUNDER hoooo

[SpyreX]

If I did I don't feel bad about it.

BLOOD AND THUNDER

[SpyreX]

How's that not being dead like you should be coming?

You get a "role" yet?

[SpyreX]

So now versus yeseterday?

Of course you better invent new reasons to say I'm scum since I'm pretty sure that's been your hardline stance since like post 2 soooo

[SpyreX]

You dont remember how many times you've said I'm scum this game? NOICE.

MY BAD FARADAY FOR BELIEVING PEOPLE COULD READ.

How's about you hook me up with some of those holy machine guns so I can help do work down here.

[SpyreX]

For the greater record all those reading along:

Andrius has forgot that all along he's said I'm scum. I want this remembered and revisited with fire and brimstone.

Or, BLOOD AND THUNDER, if you will.

[SpyreX]

No smiting? What the hell kind of lords on high are we runnin with around here.

Snap I know babies and all sheepin town my bad.

Guess what Andy once these scums are cleaned out via S&M and Empking I'll gladly go one for one with you.

[SpyreX]

Ohh hell no.

No. This doesn't happen. S&M dies. "Lol I'm killin people and a miller but not sayin anything"

Even if, IF, its true the simple fact of the matter is I'm not trading MoI for S&M.

[SpyreX]

Does it matter?

No matter what the hell is going on lolmiller means a not lynched S&M is a dead MoI

[SpyreX]

I'll take "Things not happening for 2000" alex.

What is: MoI dying to save you two.

TROLOLOLOL THE MASONZ

[SpyreX]

Yessir

[SpyreX]

If this had happened to you, what would YOU have done?

O HAY GUYZ I'MMA CLAIM VIG FOR NO REASON TO TELL YOU WHY I'VE RANDOMLY BECOME A MILLER, WHEN I'M ALSO A MASON

Yeah, right. No reason to out myself for that.

We should lynch empking because the seraphs say so. I can be lynched and/or sked by feysal later, if you all deem fit.

I don't know how ANYONE can believe MoI above me in this situation, despite my lurkiness. I have multiple provable claims. I have Nienor. He has just the name with a cop ability, which I don't think even makes SENSE for Turin.

If I mysteriously got turned into a miller?

I damn well would have said something right then and there. If that wasn't enough to stave off death I would have elucidated.

What I sure wouldn't have done is end up in this situation.

Of course I'd probably have used my words and played the game and not been a target for death to begin with.

[SpyreX]

Ohhh hay look KKB with the correct result.

Today is absolutely not ending in anything but an S&M lynch and seriously, SERIOUSLY, anyone who is arguing that can become Feysal'd.

(Now aren't you glad Feysal is still around MoI)

[SpyreX]

Sooo two of you thought it'd be tech instead of just one.

Yeaaa

[SpyreX]

Yes and we have a murderin death robot to take care of that scum.

It boils down to this AND ABSOLUTELY JUST THIS: Do you think MoI is town?

If the answer is yes well then:

a.) his role is more useful.
b.) his play is more useful than 4 players at this point.
c.) lynching someone else KILLING HIM AND HIM FLIPPING COP IS GOING TO CAUSE THIS IDIOCY AGAIN TOMORROW.

Lynching S&M,

even if they are a town vig mason space pirate vampire whirlygig

, at this juncture is the right move in every scenario except "MoI scum bussed a mason that claimed miller for lolllzzzzz before lylo after garnering a whole 1 vote this game"

[SpyreX]

The choice isn't between S&M and MoI like you all are framing it, its between S&M and (MoI and a lynch of our choosing), giving up that lynch is a big deal.

Except, yea it is.

The "lynch of our choosing" is a busted scum that we have a nightkilling death robot to deal with.

No one is arguing empking is dead. Hell, he's not even posting.

So, lynching empking now is simply killing MoI and with that flip doing this dance again tomorrow with the "added benefit" of nothing being changed and a dead MoI.

Absolutely not worth it.

[SpyreX]

Tomorrow we can lynch elli assuming Empking is dead.

Of course that'd require a lynch or the heat death of the universe and I'm 50/50 at this point.

[SpyreX]

If you don't have a role or a claimed town win condition, you can start dying. I'm unsure where and what is happening with

spyreX

, Furc, and Andrius,

Would you like to [A]bort, [R]etry or [F]ail?

[SpyreX]

It wasn't a detriment and every time someone sings that same old song and dance part of me dies inside.

Then goes to the netherworld to combine with the other dead parts to create a monster that will eventually destroy the universe.

The graph that illustrates "People that whine about my 'PR'" and "People that are not town" is going to be pretty tech when its said and done.

[SpyreX]

Dont think the fact madness upon madness has saved your ass for a while wisps means its saved forever.

The time will come. BLOOD

[SpyreX]

We'll find out.

It may require acids and prayers to the dark gods.

But, whatever it takes.

[SpyreX]

Yes making scum makes perfect sense even in a bastard game ALAS

[SpyreX]

Fancy that

[SpyreX]

We've just went all the way to "Vig > Cop therefore MASONZ HOO"

Seriously just pick a direction and go. Today makes me angry.

[SpyreX]

IF they could do that again why wouldn't they do it to MoI AND END THIS CHARADE

[SpyreX]

Yea and him returning his name would, in fact, mean he was telling the truth about that which could lead to the next and then lol miller vig could die and all would be right with the universe

[SpyreX]

I think we should just not lynch Magna OR S&M, thereby letting Magna die tonight (sadly), which saves a lynch the one way. If he flips Town_Turin then SHENANIGANS and we reexamine S&M.

I remember a few pages ago talking about the dumbest results we could have today.

Something in the above for some small unknown reason made that ring a bell.

[SpyreX]

Actually when you get down to the heart of it before lylo when there's a guilty and then SURPRISE MILLER you lynch the miller.

That's kinda mafia 101.

But alas can't do that because masons maybe kinda not

[SpyreX]

Then I'm content to dwell in the muck.

That doesn't change the heart of it. It only makes it even more stupid when this doesn't happen and MoI dies and flips town.

And then S&M gets lynched tomorrow.

Its fun times abound.

For giggles. Why not.

But lets keep barking up that tree because its ~~soo dreaamyy~~

[SpyreX]

Has there been confirmation that MoI isn't dead if S&M isn't killed?

Has that happened yet?

[SpyreX]

Expect nothing from me but bitter contempt.

[SpyreX]

This is going swimmingly

[SpyreX]

Shooting Empking, Andrius, Dekes, Will-o-wisp are not bad ideas.

However this is all contingent on MoI not dying and you actually being a vig and this not being chicanery.