The Children of Húrin Mafia (GREAT REVIVAL)

[gandalf5166]

I have one town game with kanye and one scum game. Is that reliable enough? I'll give him a read over later.

[Will-o-wisp]

I think I have a pretty good town meta on Kanye (and it doesn't feel like his play in this game). A good example is Sexy Sedilla in the New York forum.

- Oversoul

[kanyeknowsbest]

eagerly awaiting my meta reads. edge of my seat here.

[SpyreX]

No. I think your play here doesn’t make sense from a Town perspective given the things I know Town Spyrex has seen. Subtle but important difference.

While its still wrong, it at least means you're a dashing young knight more likely than not.

Chrono sure used a lot of words to say very little. Even more than when the princesses all get together at the beautiful princess club.

Unvote, Vote: Chrono

[gandalf5166]

Spy...... You can't just say Chrono. We have two Chronos in this game.

[SpyreX]

Pish posh.

Unvote, Vote: Lord Chrono

[LordChronos]

Would it kill you to put the s on? It's only one more letter.

[mockingjaye]

@Ludi: Technically, I'm an alt, but I only played a couple of games on another account last year before switching for personal reasons; I use this account exclusively now and have for a while, but I generally only play one game at a time. I've never been in a game with you before.

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First, Empking

. I don't like that his ISO is filled with questions, a lot of them leading (25 posts, mostly one-liners, and 19 questions). This feels like a way to appear more active than he really is, especially since he stayed on Gandalf for as long as it was "safe" to stay there, and once the wagon was obviously dead in the water, switched to Katsuki without any reasoning when it became apparent that the Katsuki wagon is gaining popularity. Also, for the frequency of posts, he hasn't commented on anything else that has happened, so I'm thinking he's scum who is just sticking to easy targets/active lurking (and currently getting by with it).

FoS: Empking

Second, Kanye.

I don't like Kanye's concern that Gandalf is a lyncher-role and is worried about who his targets might be; this feels more scum-motivated than town since Gandalf had already claimed third-party at that point, and had he maintained his claim/full-claimed an actual role, it would have been difficult for him to succeed in lynching someone with a town claim, and I think scum would have much more to worry about.

I also want clarification on this post:

1)

i stand by lynching claimed third party.

2)

its possible there is scum on the gandalf wagon because it is the "town thing to do" but

3)

i think it is more likely that scum are on the sidelines

4)

waiting to try and lynch someone off of the gandalf wagon.

5)

claimed third party can be saved for a nonscum lynch down the road, and

6)

if they can convert an early push on the third party into a town lynch, all the better.

7)

im still into a gandalf lynch, but ill take a look and see if any of these people jumping onto wagons off of that wagon look scum to me.

There's no attempt at any kind of VCA to support this. I'm also confused by the message. This is how I'm reading your post:

1) you want to lynch claimed 3rd party;
2) scum might be be on the Gandalf wagon just to look more town, but
3) it's more likely that scum are not on the wagon because
4) they want to lynch someone off the Gandalf wagon? (Do you mean a]someone not currently on the wagon, or b]someone who jumps off the wagon?) Next,
5) scum would rather save his lynch for later...why later and not today? And,
6) are you saying scum would rather try to get town lynched than 3rd party in this statement? And
7) if you think that scum are more likely on the sidelines than jumping ship from the Gandalf wagon, then who are they?

So basically, you want to lynch Gandalf, and you'll look at people on his wagon and see if they appear scummy to you, but you really believe that scum are NOT on the wagon but are instead plotting to accuse people on the wagon who move to another wagon. No names, no specifics, no reasoning for this other than WIFOM about why/how scum might be setting up a lynch on town/third party (which seems to be designed specifically to clear you of any suspicion).

Also, what is the status of [7]? Any of "those people jumping onto wagons off of that wagon" give you any scum vibes, or are they really all off the wagon? And who are they again?

Finally, in Post 47, as a response to Ludi's suggestion that in past games those who have run up a 3rd Party lynch were actually scum, you make a very defensive reply: "you can say i was trying to do it for town cred later on but its a bit early for that." This comment was superfluous to the first half of your response and leads me to believe you are actually concerned with having your motivations questioned, ESPECIALLY given Post 227, in which you claim to believe the scum are most likely not even on the wagon but instead plotting from the sidelines AND your repeated statements that lynching claimed 3rd-party is pro-town.

Vote: Kanye

[Empking]

especially since he stayed on Gandalf for as long as it was "safe" to stay there, and once the wagon was obviously dead in the water,

I couldn't have been far off the second person to leave that wagon.

[VitaminR]

Lazy? I'm the only vote on it.

Um, no.

@Vitamin- Why do you think my RVS vote was serious. In your opinion, did anyone else have a useless random vote? Or was thiers more useful than mine? By what order of magnitude? Where they funny?

I never said your RVS vote was serious. It clearly wasn't. What I didn't like was that you made it completely obvious that it was a useless random vote by basing it off an obvious joke. You took all the potential for pressure out of it.. It's a minor thing, but it can be a scum tell.

LordChronos's big post on everything so far felt very scummy in a way I can't quite put my finger on. He might not be a bad lynch.

This is lazy and the town reads are a little too obvious to my mind:

Read up. Furcolow can be for vigging.

gandalf reeks of scum smell.

Ludi and MoI are likely town.

Vote: gandalf

-Moon

Tell your partner he's wrong.

Unvote, vote: Katsuki

Why Katsuki?

Chrono sure used a lot of words to say very little. Even more than when the princesses all get together at the beautiful princess club.

Unvote, Vote: Chrono

Exactly this feeling is what I meant. He's also really asking a lot of questions that seem designed to sound town but aren't really contributing anything.

Maybe a switch is in order.

Unvote, Vote: LordChronos

[VitaminR]

Also,

FOS: mockingjaye

. That Kanye vote felt very convenient. You're making a post seem significant that actually isn't really to allow you to hop onto the Kanye wagon.

[Gut]

UNVOTE, VOTE: VITAMINR

[Furcolow]

especially since he stayed on Gandalf for as long as it was "safe" to stay there, and once the wagon was obviously dead in the water,

I couldn't have been far off the second person to leave that wagon.

When the 2nd person was KATSUKI, that doesn't help.

[Empking's Alt]

especially since he stayed on Gandalf for as long as it was "safe" to stay there, and once the wagon was obviously dead in the water,

I couldn't have been far off the second person to leave that wagon.

When the 2nd person was KATSUKI, that doesn't help.

?

[Empking]

especially since he stayed on Gandalf for as long as it was "safe" to stay there, and once the wagon was obviously dead in the water,

I couldn't have been far off the second person to leave that wagon.

When the 2nd person was KATSUKI, that doesn't help.

?

[Katsuki]

Empking is probably scum.

But LC is.

VOTE: LC

[Katsuki]

Everything is already answered for you in my iso.

I don't know about LOTR because that game was a long time ago and I've forgotten about it. I love how you're trying to twist this into something scummy though.

No it isn’t. But I can see best case regardless of alignment you are going to be a useless, obstructionist prick. Noted.

LIE MOAR

YOU KEEP ASKING FOR WHAT SITMOA II HAS TO DO WITH GANDALF
FUCKING ISO POST #1
BUT OF COURSE YOU'D RATHER NOT READ, AND USE LIES TO FUEL MORE ATTACKS

AND OF COURSE YOU'RE A DOUCHE WHO JUST SPEWS BASELESS ACCUSATIONS AND PERSONAL INSULTS

Do me a favor.
You suck at mafia
You're a pompous prick who feels the need to attack me on a personal level every game
Even snide remarks on games I modded that you weren't in.
Just shut the fuck up, because you're always wrong. And there are more than enough games to back that up.
If you can't learn to keep insults out of your posts, why play mafia.
Basically
FUCK
YOU
FUCKING
POMPOUS
DOUCHEBAG

[gandalf5166]

Kats, he's probably confused because you're saying SitMOA II when you mean Wizards in the Sorcerer's Den, aka SitMOA III.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Why is Katsuki still alive?

[Empking]

Why is Katsuki still alive?

Who knows?

[Magister Ludi]

Why would Katsuki even be in danger of being lynched?

[SpyreX]

Jay isn't a beautiful princess, like myself, but would make a great lady in waiting. The heart is in the right place if not the end result.

[Ellibereth]

phone
timeposttommor

[Mastermind of Sin]

Why would Katsuki even be in danger of being lynched?

Cuz he's scum.

[Will-o-wisp]

katsuki has many scumpoints, and I would be probably be down with a kats wagon.

I saw MoI make a constructive post, katsuki try to dismiss it with a pointless oneliner, then MoI unfortunately stopped posting seriously and came down to katsuki's level, and they weren't getting anywhere after that. MoI, don't dignify 366 with a response. Terrible scum tactic: trying to derail the thread with insults and hope kanye slips under the radar.

-MB