In post 2530, The Book of Oa wrote:Votecount 3.2.3
Magister Ludi (3) - zMuffinMan, tanstalas, Kast
hiplop (2) - Magister Ludi, Blackberry
Mr Subliminal (1) - Andrius
ToastyToast (1) - Nikanor
Oversoul (1) - Oversoul
Not Voting (5) - hiplop, Mr Subliminal, ToastyToast, vezokpiraka, Kdub
With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch and 7 to no lynch.
Deadline for the second lynch expires in (expired on 2011-09-15 06:15:00)
V/LAs:
In post 2485, Mr Subliminal wrote:@Mod: I would like another snarky answer please. Assume Jailkeeper A targets Player B. Roleblocker C targets Jailkeeper A. Does the jailkeep go through, or is it roleblocked?
The jailkeep would not go through.
And if it wasn't apparent by now, Magister Ludi obviously replaces Candle Jack, though mods would like to get informed about stuff like that (unless you told dana, then there's only dana to blame for not telling me).
In post 2554, Mr Subliminal wrote:VOTE: Magister Ludi
ToastyToast jailkeeps Kast
vezokpiraka delays Kast
Ideally, Andrius roleblocks ToastyToast here. Buuuuuut, Andrius is going to derp it up either because he's mafia or because he's recruited and say he wants to roleblock us. That's fine.
Oversoul tracks ToastyToast if Andrius is going to roleblock us; otherwise, he should track tanstalas
In post 2597, Nikanor wrote:Unvote. Vote: Mr Subliminal.
If Sublim isn't the recruiter, Toasty can JK Ludi tonight.
Looking at nopoint's flip, I'm thinking that recruits are vanillized. Therefore even if the cult recruited Andy or tans, they wouldn't have a roleblock.
In post 2600, Kdub wrote:OK, trying to figure this out.
From the last few pages, I gather that the White Lanterns are NOT confirmed to be non-recruiter, only that they are unlikely to be the recruiter, correct? Was the basis for that reasoning based on setup speculation, or was it something that the WLs did not want to disclose at this time? Also, the WLs are still potentially recruits and/or mafia, correct?
So let's see if I've got this right:
Kast - possible recruiter
Andrius - not recruiter via tans's N1 action
Magister Ludi - possible recruiter
Blackberry - not recruiter...I forget why?
hiplop - probably not recruiter (WL)
Mr Subliminal - probably not recruiter (WL)
ToastyToast - possible recruiter
vezokpiraka - not recruiter because N1 action was confirmed
tanstalas - not recruiter because N1 action was confirmed
Nikanor - not recruiter via Toasty's N1 action, plus WL
zMuffinMan - probably not recruiter (WL)
Kdub - not recruiter obviously, but objectively nobody has cc'ed my N2 vig
Oversoul - not recruiter via vezok's N1 action
Someone remind me why BB can't be the recruiter again?
Assuming that list is correct, it's down to Kast/Ludi/Toasty. I think it's unlikely to be Kast. For him to claim vanillaized either means he actually was vanillaized (I doubt the recruiter can be vanillaized for balance reasons) or that his faction was responsible for the vanillaizing (I don't see cult having this power in addition to recruitment).
Ludi's color changing claim is weird, and his doctor claim is unverifiable. I have no flavor knowledge outside of what I gathered from BNM and this game so far. What do some of the flavor experts think about his claim? If Ludi is the recruiter, Nikanor or Andy look like possible recruits.
Toasty's jailkeeper claim, though non-standard, was verified by Oversoul, correct? If so, doesn't that mean the only way Toasty can be the recruiter is if Oversoul is a recruit?
POE suggests Ludi is the best bet for CR. If we lynch him and he is not the CR, then we need Toasty and Kast to be blocked/delayed/whatever tonight, and it would probably be a good idea for the mafia to kill one of them for their sake as well as ours. If Ludi is the CR, we should figure out actions to try to confirm people as non-mafia.
If one of the claimed WLs is actually the recruiter, well we can blame a loss on them for being stupid and leading us to believe otherwise.
VOTE: Magister Ludi
I'll be back later tonight.
this was the sequence of votes, all in about
Ludi: Kdub just replaced into the game. I don't buy your argument. He replaced into a game where there are over 100 pages of posts, and if you read when he placed his vote, that was something like 70-100 posts after momentum on your lynch had already died due to apathy and Nikanor already started the charge on Mr. S. The fact that he unvoted when the wagon restarted, and that he didn't hammer you despite claiming to be equally suspicious of you and Mr. S is proof that he wasn't trying to get you lynched.
He didn't really care which one of me or Mr Sub got lynched, since he knew neither of us were his recruiter. So no, this whole argument of yours is wrong. Nothing had died down due to apathy. Read that part of the game again.