Mystery Box Mafia - Game Over

[inHimshallibe]

9 pages?!?~!~?~!?~!@!@#~!

[inHimshallibe]

11 pages!~!@~@#~!~!

[inHimshallibe]

I guess I better read this rapidly increasing hullabaloo of a game.

[inHimshallibe]

It wouldn't be that hard. Especially for a good cause.

But what do you think about bizarro land post I quoted?

Seemed random to me to be honest.

[inHimshallibe]

Seraphim's Codex

Gameplay

• 1. All votes and unvotes should be
  bolded
  and use this format:
  Vote: Whoever
  ,
  Unvote: Whoever
  .

Neruz and DeathNote, please do this and then revote. Things are going to get confusing if you try and vote for another person without unvoting the first person. Your vote could mistakenly be counted twice.

This game is going to be awesome, and Yami is Town.

[inHimshallibe]

I didn't start anything.>_< People need to stop. I know what you're trying to do. I want to play this game in peace.

mafia is anything but peaceful

You're really not helping with this quandary.

I am delighted to hear that my posts are obscure. It really helps lift the atmosphere of hate off my shoulders.

Are you an alt? Are you trying to start a fire to derail the day?

Do I sense the wonders of opportunity in your text? Why yes, yes I do.

Unvote, Vote: Xvart

Vote Hohum

Speed lynch?

But the words of opportunity also come from this one's ideas as well.

Interesting. I am at a T-Junction in which both paths end the same.

I shall go to the left, and follow the road.

It shall make a circle.

please god lets not let robert frost be a posting restriction.

why is xvart's vote more "opportunistic" than deathnotes?

you sure this isn't a thinly veiled omgus?

I'm in love with this person.

[inHimshallibe]

Unvote, Vote: Yamichan

You hunt scum, let the mod moderate. The vote stays until I see something resembling scum hunting.

Vote: YamiChan

Less murking about the rules and the players in the game. More content, please.

FoS: Rikana

Explain your post 91.

UNVOTE: xvart (Just in case)
VOTE: YamiChan for not even bothering to pretend she is scumhunting, instead preferring protestations that everyone else is out to get her.

Juls
CSL
Neruz


a scum in thar.

[inHimshallibe]

Vote: Rikana

And here we are.

vote: CSL

[inHimshallibe]

CSL's gimmicking.

I could see this.

CooLDoG, I thought you said you were trying to play better, and then you go pick out Glossary terms and throw them at YamiChan.

[inHimshallibe]

9 pages?!?~!~?~!?~!@!@#~!

Yes, so what do you think of Neruz?

Yes, so what do you think of Neruz?

If Neruz then DK imo.

[inHimshallibe]

I got a rock.

:|

[inHimshallibe]

Why would LLD fake a PR? That doesn't make any sense. Both scum and townies have boxes. Having a PR doesn't say anything about your alignment. Faking a PR serves absolutely no purpose other than making a headache for yourself.

FoS: Everyone insinuating the PR might be fake

"My box did this thing" (Box did not do thing,

now role is cult recruiter

, doesn't have to claim when claim times comes up because role is seemingly self-evident.)

I have no issue w/Juls. I am a little stunned I have never heard of her before though with so many posts and being around for so long.

:paranoid:

[inHimshallibe]

Reaper, can you stop the rapid multi-posting, it's spam.

ohshit

Ok, so if Deity is scum, I'm instalynching RC.


ORRRRR. There's an instituted RC lynch happening now.

[inHimshallibe]

Cheers mod for confirming PR

Unvote

I love it when mods game hints in their threads.

You were voting RC for scumz or for restriction?

[inHimshallibe]

I thought he was lying about the restriction. So Both.

gotcha.

[inHimshallibe]

Post 395 comes from town. I will bet my life on it.

And 396 is :goodposting:

So suddenly Yami, who you were pushing as flailing, obv-scum earlier suddenly is a lock solid Town read?

CSL you can swim in the scum-pool.

:tremendousposting:

[inHimshallibe]

Hoopla, I have a
Query. Are you being serious
About cult doctor?

If the answer is
Yes, then I think Inhim found
A potential slip.

It's what I do, apparently.

[inHimshallibe]

Well, might it be a useless power?

[inHimshallibe]

Obvgambit was obv.

[inHimshallibe]

I have some real estate in Florida to sell you.

[inHimshallibe]

vote: reapercharlie

[inHimshallibe]

That's also entirely possible.

Not CCing Hoopla kill.

This. Both, actually.

[inHimshallibe]

Oh please. Vig him then.

[inHimshallibe]

VLA til the 5th

[inHimshallibe]

So if I hammer here do I get towncred or scumcred?

[inHimshallibe]

Welp, still haven't read anything.

[inHimshallibe]

I PITY THE

And this, ladies and gents, is a breach of post restriction.


Now 'fess up or die.

[inHimshallibe]

Hey, I finally get to post.

[inHimshallibe]

5 to 6 mafia, dependent upon the existence of an SK. 3 to 4 left.

Pretty sure I'm confirmed.

[inHimshallibe]

Well, to me the coloring looks like Kublai was turned into an SK, not an SK to begin with... which makes sense, given the OP. Ok, so the mod plans for turning someone into an SK, so probably 5 mafia, and 3 remaining.

I highly doubt MoI to be scum, given the nature of the xvart case. Are Junox or Neruz cleared in any way? I remember that I felt like one of them could be scum. To be honest, I'm so out of touch with this game. Pressing onward, though.

You're pushing Rikana now? I think Rikana had some weird reasoning for voting xvart at one point, possible poor bus.

[inHimshallibe]

Empking
Sathoris
CooLDoG
LobsterCatapult
danakillsu
MoI

Not a one of you bring up Neruz/Junox/DeathNote. Odd.

@Empking: Pestered RC and that nonhammer of xvart imo.

[inHimshallibe]

@Empking: Pestered RC and that nonhammer of xvart imo.

So you are claiming confirmed Town for not hammering confirmed scum xvart? Yeah, that's a ball of useless WIFOM.

And what do you mean "Don't bring up Junox / Neruz / Deathnote"? Explain please.

I make that hammer all time every time if I'm scum. Grains of salt, continue feeling like you're playing it "by the book."


Junox/Neruz/DeathNote - did anyone ever look at reactions to this. I'll go look at it. Like, did Neruz look like caught scum? Did DeathNote's action claim hold true?

[inHimshallibe]

I want Neruz's death. If scum, both buddies are on there. No one even questions this until MoI at L-1.

[inHimshallibe]

God fucking damnit DeathNote, i wish you'd said something about that block, that's probably just wasted an extremely powerful ability.

Also what the hell kind of reaction is this.

vote: Neruz

[inHimshallibe]

v/la til monday morning.

[inHimshallibe]

Oh and i'm pretty sure Empking is scum because he seems to be trying to lynch me based on what is literally bullshit.

Why?

Explain how your recent posts have been for anything other than padding your iso.

My recent posts have been stopping you from trying to slide through a lynch on me based on 'semi-cop results'

which do not exist.

No no. Just general reads.

At this point you've got to have at least some real feelings about some more than 2 people either side of the fence.

I'm sure if i went back and re-read the thread i'd get something, but i really don't feel like slogging through 49 pages, especially since something like half those pages are full of YamiChan. The long nights and hohum's modkill have completely detached my train of thought for this game. Hell i forgot this game even existed during the last night phase.

lol

[inHimshallibe]

YamiChan

(4) - Rikana,

CSL

,

Toon Fighter

, danakillsu

CSL

(6) -

Lady Lambdadelta

,

YamiChan

,

ReaperCharlie

, CooLDoG, Sathoris, inHimshallibe

hohum

(1) - MagnaofIllusion
Gammagooeyjmj3000(1) - Empkingkondi2424
Rikana(3) - SpyreX,

xvart

, LobsterCatapult
Neruz(2) - DeathNote, JunoxJuls

Lady Lambdadelta

(1) -

Mastermind of Sin

ReaperCharlie

(5) -

Hoopla

,

Primate

, Neruz,

DeityKabuto

,

hohum

Not Voting(2) -

bvoigt

, Gammagooeyjmj3000

YamiChan

(4) - Rikana,

CSL

,

Toon Fighter

, danakillsu

CSL

(5) -

YamiChan

,

ReaperCharlie

, CooLDoG, Sathoris, inHimshallibe

hohum

(1) - MagnaofIllusion
Gammagooeyjmj3000(1) - Empkingkondi2424
Rikana(2) - SpyreX, LobsterCatapult
Neruz(2) - DeathNote, JunoxJuls

Lady Lambdadelta

(1) -

Mastermind of Sin

ReaperCharlie

(6) -

Hoopla

,

Primate

, Neruz,

DeityKabuto

,

hohum

,

xvart

Primate

(1) -

Lady Lambdadelta

Not Voting(2) -

bvoigt

, Gammagooeyjmj3000

YamiChan

(3) - Rikana,

Toon Fighter

, danakillsu

CSL

(6) -

ReaperCharlie

, CooLDoG, Sathoris, inHimshallibe, MagnaofIllusion, LobsterCatapult
Rikana(1) - SpyreX
Neruz(2) - DeathNote, JunoxJuls

Lady Lambdadelta

(1) -

Mastermind of Sin

ReaperCharlie

(8) -

Hoopla

, Neruz,

DeityKabuto

,

hohum

,

xvart

,

CSL

, Empkingkondi2424,

YamiChan

Primate

(1) -

Lady Lambdadelta

Not Voting(3) -

bvoigt

, Gammagooeyjmj3000,

Primate

YamiChan

(3) - Rikana,

Toon Fighter

, danakillsu

CSL

(8) -

ReaperCharlie

, CooLDoG, Sathoris, inHimshallibe, MagnaofIllusion, LobsterCatapult, JunoxJuls,

YamiChan

Rikana(1) - SpyreX
Neruz(1) - DeathNote

Lady Lambdadelta

(1) -

Mastermind of Sin

ReaperCharlie

(7) -

Hoopla

, Neruz,

DeityKabuto

,

hohum

,

xvart

,

CSL

, Empkingkondi2424

Primate

(1) -

Lady Lambdadelta

Not Voting(3) -

bvoigt

, Gammagooeyjmj3000,

Primate

YamiChan

(3) - Rikana,

Toon Fighter

, danakillsu

CSL

(10) -

ReaperCharlie

, CooLDoG, Sathoris, inHimshallibe, LobsterCatapult, JunoxJuls,

YamiChan

, DeathNote,

Lady Lambdadelta

, Empkingkondi2424
Rikana(1) - SpyreX

ReaperCharlie

(5) -

Hoopla

,

DeityKabuto

,

hohum

,

xvart

,

CSL

Neruz(1) -

Mastermind of Sin

Not Voting(5) -

bvoigt

, Gammagooeyjmj3000,

Primate

, MagnaofIllusion, Neruz

YamiChan

(2) -

Toon Fighter

, danakillsu

CSL

(12) -

ReaperCharlie

, CooLDoG, Sathoris, inHimshallibe, LobsterCatapult, JunoxJuls,

YamiChan

, DeathNote,

Lady Lambdadelta

, Empkingkondi2424,

Hoopla

,

hohum

Rikana(1) - SpyreX

ReaperCharlie

(3) -

DeityKabuto

,

xvart

,

CSL

Neruz(1) -

Mastermind of Sin

inHimshallibe(1) - Rikana

Not Voting(5) -

bvoigt

, Gammagooeyjmj3000,

Primate

, MagnaofIllusion, Neruz

YamiChan

(3) - Rikana,

Toon Fighter

, danakillsu

CSL

(13) -

ReaperCharlie

, CooLDoG, Sathoris, inHimshallibe, LobsterCatapult, JunoxJuls,

YamiChan

, DeathNote,

Lady Lambdadelta

, Empkingkondi2424,

Hoopla

,

hohum

,

Mastermind of Sin

Rikana(1) - SpyreX

ReaperCharlie

(3) -

DeityKabuto

,

xvart

,

CSL

Not Voting(5) -

bvoigt

, Gammagooeyjmj3000,

Primate

, MagnaofIllusion, Neruz

ReaperCharlie

(2) -

xvart

, inHimshallibe
CooLDoG(1) -

Primate

Neruz(1) -

ReaperCharlie

nHimshallibe(1) - Sathoris
Not Voting(14) - MagnaofIllusion, Junox, Rikana, danakillsu, Empkingkondi2424, DeathNote,

DeityKabuto

, SpyreX, LobsterCatapult,

Kublai Khan

,

hohum

, CooLDoG, Neruz, Gammagooeyjmj3000

ReaperCharlie

(4) -

xvart

, inHimshallibe,

hohum

,

DeityKabuto

CooLDoG(1) -

Primate

Neruz(1) - Empking
inHimshallibe(1) - Sathoris

xvart

(3) -

Kublai Khan

, MagnaofIllusion, Junox

Primate

(1) - Rikana

Not Voting(8) - danakillsu, DeathNote, SpyreX, LobsterCatapult, CooLDoG, Neruz, Gammagooeyjmj3000,

ReaperCharlie

Neruz(5) - Junox, Rikana, CooLDoG,

DeityKabuto

, LobsterCatapult

hohum

(2) - SpyreX, MagnaofIllusion

DeityKabuto

(1) - Empking
DeathNote(1) - danakillsu

Not Voting(7) - Sathoris,

hohum

, inHimshallibe, Neruz, Gammagooeyjmj3000,

Primate

, DeathNote

[inHimshallibe]

PERSONS OF INTEREST:
Rikana |||||||| = 8
dana |||||||| = 8
MoI ||||| = 5
Empking ||||||| = 7
DeathNote ||||||| = 7
Junox |||||||| = 8
SpyreX |||||| = 6
LobsterCatapult |||||| = 6
Gammagooey | = 1
Neruz | = 1
Sathoris || = 2



Right now, the ones to stick out to me most are {Rikana, dana}, Empking, and SpyreX

[inHimshallibe]

Ooh, LC too.


Did we get a claim from Rikana yet?

[inHimshallibe]

Did we get a claim from Rikana yet?

Why are you worried about him claiming? Boxes are randomly distributed so any ability he may have is Null regarding his alignment.

Lynch

or don't lynch him

for his play.

There may be redeeming qualities about his use of Box power. That's part of his play as well, yes?

[inHimshallibe]

LC looks a bit worse with that Gamma. I feel like LC was softly defending xvart.

[inHimshallibe]

Holy shite... DN... I think all of us have a say in how you determine who is a threat to the town. If you do a crappy enough job, we lynch you.

[inHimshallibe]

Holy shite... DN... I think all of us have a say in how you determine who is a threat to the town. If you do a crappy enough job, we lynch you.

Thats not lynching scum,

thats lynching townie for not being good at finding scum

. That is against Town's win condition.

You know who else does a crappy job at determining threats to the town?


Yep.

[inHimshallibe]

Kublai was killed for some reason, and I can't believe it was just that he was voting xvart.


One of MoI and Neruz are climbing the charts.

[inHimshallibe]

Have you ever used this before, Magna?

[inHimshallibe]

PERSONS OF INTEREST:

Rikana |||||||| = 8

dana |||||||| = 8
MoI ||||| = 5
Empking ||||||| = 7

DeathNote ||||||| = 7

Junox |||||||| = 8
SpyreX |||||| = 6
LobsterCatapult |||||| = 6
Gammagooey | = 1
Neruz | = 1
Sathoris || = 2



Right now, the ones to stick out to me most are {

Rikana

, dana}, Empking, and SpyreX

dana, Empking, SpyreX

Will make it my duty to read isos.

[inHimshallibe]

Have you ever used this before, Magna?

Have I ever used Vote Count analysis before? Tons of times.

Have I ever used weighted values based on expected scum distribution? No, I've adopted that from DGB's Scumputer methodology. I wanted to see how the blending of the two methods (my hunting for critical information all the VCs mixed with DGB's statistical leaning) worked out.

I mainly meant the scumputering.

Let's look at the CSL lynch and the xvart lynch.

[inHimshallibe]

YamiChan

(3) -

Rikana

,

Toon Fighter

, danakillsu

CSL

(13) -

ReaperCharlie

,

CooLDoG

, Sathoris, inHimshallibe, LobsterCatapult, JunoxJuls,

YamiChan

,

DeathNote

,

Lady Lambdadelta

, Empkingkondi2424,

Hoopla

,

hohum

,

Mastermind of Sin

Rikana

(1) - SpyreX

ReaperCharlie

(3) -

DeityKabuto

,

xvart

,

CSL

Not Voting(5) -

bvoigt

, Gammagooeyjmj3000,

Primate

, MagnaofIllusion, Neruz

ReaperCharlie

(2) - inHimshallibe,

hohum

CooLDoG

(1) -

Primate

xvart

(10) - MagnaofIllusion,

ReaperCharlie

,

Kublai Khan

, Neruz, SpyreX, Sathoris,

DeityKabuto

,

CoolDoG

,

xvart

, Junox

Primate

(1) -

Rikana

DeityKabuto

(1) - Empking


Not Voting(4) - danakillsu,

DeathNote

, LobsterCatapult, jmj3000

[inHimshallibe]

Third Parties are town in the eyes of scum until they are claimed to be such. CSL was acting really scummy (because of Jester lolz) but Mafia knew he wasn't a partner of theirs. May be interesting to see reactions to CSL's play. That's the next order of business.

---

In a vacuum, these are town to scum based on the voting:

inHim on 3P, off scum and on this other scum
Junox on 3P, on scum
Sathoris on 3P, on scum
Magna off 3P, on scum
Neruz off 3P, on scum

SpyreX on town, on scum
Gamma off 3P, off scum (jmj powerlurk)

dana on town, off scum
LC on 3P, off scum
Empking on 3P, on town

Sweet spot on the CSL lynch: Sathoris, inHimshallibe, LobsterCatapult, JunoxJuls
Off-voting the CSL lynch: SpyreX, dana
Not voting: Gamma, MoI, Neruz

Off-voting the xvart lynch: Empking, inHim
Not voting: dana, LC, Gamma

[inHimshallibe]

vote: Empking

[inHimshallibe]

SpyreX will die, sexy.

[inHimshallibe]

WHOOPS.

SpyreX, sorry hon, this reads like a last gasp for breath from a dying scum.

[inHimshallibe]

Don't you start on me. :P

I'm always irritated when I get lynched. I'm glad that THIS isn't unrecoverable at least.

Its far more irritating watching Sath and LC (who I think is the illustrious partner after that junk) skate by.

Can you promise me this inHim? Tomorrow will you get Sath lynched for me? Don't let this stupid RB business repeat itself.

Sathoris is on the list.


Let me bump some of my posts for a refresher course.

[inHimshallibe]

What's the deadline? I'll hammer today.

[inHimshallibe]

Oh, still plenty o' time. Hammer can wait.


What's the matter Neruz? I see that you've read SpyreX as null, but that means, well... nothing.

[inHimshallibe]

V/LA through tomorrow. Not at work at all today, so I won't be at a comp past 9:00 or so.

Will read this as number one priority tomorrow.

[inHimshallibe]

That was silly, robo.

[inHimshallibe]

I'm taking a mafia break, but finishing this one. Let me read my iso.

[inHimshallibe]

Can't clear anyone. SO SORRY for being away. Will look at this I swear.

[inHimshallibe]

I don't want us to be screwed over by some double kill or stupid shit like that. -_-

[inHimshallibe]

I want everyone to list why they're not scum and/or why they think someone else has the best case.


Biggest pros for me has been my diction, when I was actually trying, actually catching up instead of saying I'll do so, and my voting definitely not looking like I knew who people were.

[inHimshallibe]

I've had one box this entire game. Completely useless information of people that were NOT playing. List included mith, jeep, and other original gen players.

[inHimshallibe]

I've had one box this entire game. Completely useless information of people that were NOT playing. List included mith, jeep, and other original gen players.

Details would be nice. What kind of box, when did you open it etc.

It was called the "A Box" Box, Level 1 Information. Opened it Day 1.

[inHimshallibe]

I will NOT replace out of this game. D:


I will do my diligence here.

I'm like 95% Gamma is Town. Niggling doubt... but eh. dana and Neruz I have both suspected in the past.

The no kill is what leads me to question Gamma. I don't know if he thought he couldn't kill someone else and not get away with it or what. I figured I'd have been a safe kill.


I will reread a lot of the meat later tonight and tomorrow with a full take on things.

[inHimshallibe]

Neruz became a person of interest due to VCA. Reactions from pressure were what first drew my ire.


GOD THIS GAME. I can't parse anything of the first few days, working on the last half.

[inHimshallibe]

And dana, if you really cared about views that made little sense, you wouldn't have voted for me in the first place, given how idiotic the case being made against me was. Also, about eight other players suspected Reaper for the SAME EXACT REASON. But only I am accused of being Mafia or told I'm made little sense. That's suspicious on it's own.

This is you saying you disagree with my opinion on scumtells, and saying I make no sense because of it. I, on the other hand, SHOWED how it made no sense for scum to do what ReaperCharlie has done, and you have no defense against that, nor have you switched your vote. As to your AtE about everybody picking on you, you're the only one I've noticed persisting in calling RC's PR a scumtell despite my proofs to the contrary.

Okay, here's what I get from that.
Neruz is town (ReaperCharlie bussed one of his scumpals, very unlikely to do it twice)
We need to look for scum in {LobsterCatapult, MagnaofIllusion, SpyreX, danakillsu, Sathoris, Gammagooey}
I will keep sorting through that to see if I can narrow down the list to fewer than 5.

Well, look at his interactions with Robocopter. Not only was a confirmed town player quite sure Neruz was scum, but also Neruz tried to preemptively set up a lynch on a player we now know is town even if said player was not modkilled.
My protections:
YamiChan's replacement
ReaperCharlie
Junox

Yeah, they're weird, I know. Don't have too much experience as doc, and I don't necessarily remember my reasons for each of them.

@ everybody on Empking
Why Empking over Sathoris?

Well, I kinda feel like hammering Empking, but I'm trying to resist the urge and give him one last chance to prove he's not scum. I've seen too many scumslips from townies lately to trust one blatant contradiction to tell me everything I need to know about a player.

I reread Empking's posts in the last few pages, and I've come to the conclusion that they don't look townie at all. If indeed he flips town, though, there's a lot of info to be had there, especially with SpyreX pushing the early hammer. So even if I'm wrong, there doesn't appear to be a great risk here.

unvote vote: Empking

.

Sorry, mod, this is me.

Cool beans.

vote: SpyreX

Good thing I got in the L-2 vote, because I'm V/LA for over a week. Don't want to let someone quickhammer.

Doesn't mention xvart.

[inHimshallibe]

To be fair, RC's PR

is

somewhat implausible. But MoI makes some extremely strong points, i especially like the part where xvart contradicts himself by saying the only person he'd vote is Rikana while he's in the process of voting RC.

VOTE: xvart

If he was trying to policy lynch RC because he has claimed an obnoxious PR i could understand that, but MoI has brought to my attention the fact that he has been busily trying to turn what clearly started as either a policy lynch or a percieved easy lynch into a legitimate lynch. Combine that with the rest of his ISO and he is looking pretty bad.

I'm still not sold on DK being town, but i will admit i tend to be terrible at telling the difference between VI and terribad scum.

It was the primate vote. Six pages of bitching and moaning about how scummy and stupid Yami is and then suddenly just voting someone cause they voted you without reason.

Opportunism is the strongest scumtell i know of. Nothing Yami has done compares to Primate just up and joining a bandwagon without even a

single word

justifying why he did so. And when asked to elaborate? He just point blank refused. If you don't see that as extremely scummy, there is something wrong with you.

Scum could fake a post restriction to say "hey, look, I can't express my thoughts clearly because I have a post restriction"
Town could fake a post restriction too and I would rather not share why because I don't want to do the work for scum.

LLD hasn't used the PR to avoid sharing info\expressing thoughts clearly however. In fact she seems to be doing everything in her power to express herself as clearly as possible. The PR has no bearing on her alignment, but i see no reason to believe it is faked at this point in time.

ReaperCharlie's post restriction in the other hand looks really bad. While i could believe a Haiku post restriction and i believe i have already made my feelings as to it's brilliance clear, a one word post restriction is just plain bad. I find the concept that Seraphim would willingly put a one word post restriction box in the game highly implausible.

ReaperCharlie certainly is using his PR to avoid expressing himself well too. With that in mind,

FOS: ReaperCharlie

Yeah ok, ReaperCharlie is our lynch today. I'm not buying one word of his Post Restriction claim; if he really had a one word PR, as Hoopla said, he'd be restricted to not posting in a row like that.

Having a 1 word PR with a 5 posts in a line limit is functionally identical to having a 5 word PR, except five times more annoying and obnoxious. ReaperCharlie is lying, and that makes him a likely scum candidate.

UNVOTE: Primate
VOTE: ReaperCharlie

Not buyin' yer bullshittery.

Um, wow.

VOTE: Empking

I just ISOed Empking, he's active lurking so hard it hurts.

Why do i get the feeling that SpyreX is trying to get town cred by saying i'm not scum?

Seriously, ISO Empking, his last like ten posts have basically been little more than him jumping on whatever wagon looks promising with no interaction whatsoever.

Secondly, semi-cop results.

What does this even mean?

Oh and i'm pretty sure Empking is scum because he seems to be trying to lynch me based on what is literally bullshit.

Riding votes on other people's points is wagoning and not interacting Empking. This is the most you've interacted with other players in the entire game thus far.

I could add more, but this is all I really needed to see in regards to Neruz. I will not be voting for Neruz, especially based on Empking's behavior toward him.


So now, dana or Gamma.

[inHimshallibe]

Neruz became a person of interest due to VCA. Reactions from pressure were what first drew my ire.


GOD THIS GAME. I can't parse anything of the first few days, working on the last half.

That doesn't answer my questions. The posts I quoted definitely seem to indicate that he was a person of interest, then not a person of interest, then a person of interest again.

On the other hand, I do agree with you that Neruz is unlikely to actually be the scum. This doesn't let you off the hook for your strange interactions with him.

Reads change? I dunno, just how I was reading him went back and forth.

[inHimshallibe]

Wait, what? You're not trying to prove someone is more scum than you if you're town. You're just trying to prove they're scum.


Hm. Isoing Gamma first.

[inHimshallibe]

@Neruz: Empking is eh. kondi looked pretty town though.

Lobster's most recent post is about 1000x better than the rest of her iso and looks like legitimate scumhunting so let's do this:

Vote: DeathNote

Cooldog and Junox are both Townz by the way. With a capital T.

SECRET REREAD DEPLOYMENT COMPLETED- READS MODE ENGAGE.

First- DeathNote only stating that he massroleblocked everyone After MoI claimed that both he and his secret partner were roleblocked while Neruz was at L-1 is Terrible- If Neruz is town Two mislynches could have gone down for the mistaken role information and DeathNote should have known that there was something weird going on with Junox if they had results of any kind. Add that to his completely useless play for a recipe for death.

I don't think xvart was bussing/distancing Rikana- Rikana and Reaper were the only people xvart pushed on and I don't think he would attack two scum partners and only two scum partners- if there were a larger number of players he was focusing on it would be plausible but I can't see xvart starting the game and immediately going after two scum partners while ignoring the vast numbers of townies that he have to kill off by the end of the game.

MoI is likely town and becomes very VERY likely town if Neruz flips town in the future- As scum he could have easily lurked through it and just waited for a townie to hammer on a faulty investigation instead of showing up to stop it like he did.

Junoz didn't claim an incorrect investigation as scum after a mass roleblock because it would be hella dumb. Also, the gambit d3 trying to get a reaction from Neruz looks very town. Therefore, Townz.

Pretty sure Cool is town for his attacks on xvart.

kondi (empking) claiming to have an investigation box d1 was stupid but town, scum offering to trade an investigation that could bite them in the ass later would be monstrously retarded. Plus I think his general tone and actions regarding the jester shenanigans and modlynching and irritating Yami is more likely to come from town than scum.

Lobster has the most connections to xvart and RC by a very long shot but iso 33 about Rikana looks like a legitimate scumhunting attempt so she's not dying right now.

SpyreX is a secret town read for secret reasons that may or may not be meta-related.


Everyone not on here should post more or face CONSEQUENCES. (the consequences are nooses)

If X=Y contradiction.
X=

Scum on both of them.

I said that.

Y=

I never said

I called them both scum

X DOES equal Y.
weeeeeeeeeee.

So since I intend to spend most of the rest of the night getting drunk I'm just gonna post my reads before I go-since Empking decided to come in and dispute the meanings of words instead of actually trying to get reads on other players some of these are the abridged version but dealwithit. If you have questions then ask 'em or forever be mildly puzzled.


Dese Reeds

Junox is town. The gambit with trying to get a read on Neruz by faking the investigation even though it would be clear to some people it was fake was very very likely to come from town because Neruz Hasn't been paying attention to the game and there was a decent chance of getting a reaction from him that would help with reading him. And if they were scum they could have just not revealed that they had a vig at all and shot strong townies for the rest of the game. Claiming the vig is not a good idea for scums.

Dana is a weak read but he's leaning town- his thoughts in regards to Rikana and DeathNote yesterday were very similar to mine and I can see why he thinks Lobster in particular is scum now.

Lobster is my biggest scumread after Empking due primarily to xvart interactions.

Neruz's recent play is garbage but looks like he was legitimately trying earlier on- Some of you probably think that using that as an alignment tell is dumb but I still have a slight town read on him from it so whatever. Assuming Empking is scum (a pretty amazing assumption) he Might be scum with Emp with Emp just continuing to push on his partner for mediocre reasons after the fake investigations so he doesn't look bad later in the game for backing down but I wouldn't lynch him tomorrow, there are more likely scum than him.

Spy looks like Spy-town with his Yami stuff on day 1

inhims looks fairly town with his responses to DeathNote+VCA today

MoI is iffy but I wouldn't lynch him tommorrow assuming Emp-scum, I really do need to read over him again soon though.

Sath's replacement needs a full-on interrogation, preferably with him trying to use words with as few vowels as possible. Make him be useful and give an opinion on everything so he can be readable and if he doesn't do it string him up.

Emp is a scumbag and you should hammer him. THAT MEANS YOU SOLDIER.

Huh. That works.

Vote: SpyreX

Gamma has some interesting town/noread on SpyreX...

I need to look at SpyreX and Empking.

[inHimshallibe]

Vote: Neruz

Gamma: Why me over people like Dana & Sathoris.

Junox - 100% town
Spy & MOI - Gut says town
Dana - The actual scum lurker (who's doing everything in his power to remain unnoticed.)

@dana- It was originally a pressure vote and I forgot Sath existed- I really don't like most of the content he's given since then though. Giving no individual thoughts for inhims/Lobster and just grouping them together as "one scum here" when I think that they're the two of easiest players to have nullish reads

What do you mean by easiest?

I mean that they haven't done anything incredibly pro or anti-town and aren't receiving a lot of attention so it's pretty easy for a scumbag to say they have a null read on them despite them both having plenty of posts to go through

and get SOME kind of read on them, even if it's not a particularly strong one.

Looks like a contradiction to me. I change my mind. You're the third scum.

[inHimshallibe]

Spyspy with nothing specifically regarding either of the two.


Again, Neruz is town. Empking railing hard that way, and I don't think he busses very much.

[inHimshallibe]

Wouldn't have felt the VCA was worth doing. I usually only do it when it can be helpfully spun.

mod: are we in danger of rocks fall, everyone dies?

[inHimshallibe]

Earlier reads... I think I hated on RC when it was cool to do so, especially because his "PR" felt so forced.



I think I'm ready to vote dana and be done with this game. I'm not certain I'd care if it were actually Gamma.

[inHimshallibe]

I'm glad both of you decided to place terrible, start-of-Day votes...

[inHimshallibe]

Ok.


dana. Why should i believe anything you say?
gamma. Those are some interesting null comments on spyrex. Empking doesn't like to bus that much from what I can recall, so you've got that in your favor.

[inHimshallibe]

Gamma, reaction if I voted you here?

[inHimshallibe]

You say you worked Gamma = scum out by POE... why was I eliminated?

[inHimshallibe]

You say you worked Gamma = scum out by POE... why was I eliminated?

I already told you this. The Neruz kill didn't make sense coming from you. Also, the fact that you haven't voted now confirms my educated guess.

Who would I have killed?

[inHimshallibe]

And what reason does Gamma have for killing Neruz?

[inHimshallibe]

dana, you have until tomorrow morning to answer the question or I'll take it as an admission of guilt.

[inHimshallibe]

Well, look at his interactions with Robocopter. Not only was a confirmed town player quite sure Neruz was scum, but also Neruz tried to preemptively set up a lynch on a player we now know is town even if said player was not modkilled.
My protections:
YamiChan's replacement
ReaperCharlie
Junox

Yeah, they're weird, I know. Don't have too much experience as doc, and I don't necessarily remember my reasons for each of them.

I keep coming back to this as horribly damning point against dana.


Why RC? Also, "YamiChan's replacement?"

[inHimshallibe]

When did you get your Level 2 Box?

[inHimshallibe]

SECRET REREAD DEPLOYMENT COMPLETED- READS MODE ENGAGE.

First- DeathNote only stating that he massroleblocked everyone After MoI claimed that both he and his secret partner were roleblocked while Neruz was at L-1 is Terrible- If Neruz is town Two mislynches could have gone down for the mistaken role information and DeathNote should have known that there was something weird going on with Junox if they had results of any kind. Add that to his completely useless play for a recipe for death.

I don't think xvart was bussing/distancing Rikana- Rikana and Reaper were the only people xvart pushed on and I don't think he would attack two scum partners and only two scum partners- if there were a larger number of players he was focusing on it would be plausible but I can't see xvart starting the game and immediately going after two scum partners while ignoring the vast numbers of townies that he have to kill off by the end of the game.

MoI is likely town and becomes very VERY likely town if Neruz flips town in the future- As scum he could have easily lurked through it and just waited for a townie to hammer on a faulty investigation instead of showing up to stop it like he did.

Junoz didn't claim an incorrect investigation as scum after a mass roleblock because it would be hella dumb. Also, the gambit d3 trying to get a reaction from Neruz looks very town. Therefore, Townz.

Pretty sure Cool is town for his attacks on xvart.

kondi (empking) claiming to have an investigation box d1 was stupid but town, scum offering to trade an investigation that could bite them in the ass later would be monstrously retarded. Plus I think his general tone and actions regarding the jester shenanigans and modlynching and irritating Yami is more likely to come from town than scum.

Lobster has the most connections to xvart and RC by a very long shot but iso 33 about Rikana looks like a legitimate scumhunting attempt so she's not dying right now.

SpyreX is a secret town read for secret reasons that may or may not be meta-related.

Everyone not on here should post more or face CONSEQUENCES. (the consequences are nooses)

dana help me out here. I'm on the line both ways.

[inHimshallibe]

I want everyone to list why they're not scum and/or why they think someone else has the best case.

Empking's day 5 play and me

bitching at everyone when they were giving town reads on Spy but not giving anything for who should be lynched instead.

Which post best highlights this?

[inHimshallibe]

Also, either of you not responding in what I deem a timely manner is an admission of guilt.

[inHimshallibe]

Gamma I always have a blind spot for you. I have to go read DEFCON I think.

[inHimshallibe]

Well, I pretty much am 51/49 due to paranoia.


But dana doesn't seem to have a lot of fight, and this needs to end.

vote: danakillsu

[inHimshallibe]

I'm not even that upset.

Gamma I was so close to voting you, you know?

[inHimshallibe]

BTW, GG all. Thanks Seraphim, I'm sorry there was so much that went awry with this game. But it was fun. :)

[inHimshallibe]

My decision came down between: Gamma and SpyreX talking about each other OR dana looking poor all game.


Again, gg guys, enjoyed the craziness at the beginning and the game after that. :)