Prozacs Basic Theme 3 - GAME OVER

Fate · Post Post #1100 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 6:22 am

The way you do it, the situation, and the reactions it gains, YES it can be considered PRO-TOWN. But at the very least it is not ANTI-TOWN or LOL LYNCH IT SCUM the way that it used to be.

Look at the fucking CONTEXT. In what pro-scum agenda would I have to claim scum at THAT juncture?

Let's lynch DX.

Banshee · Post Post #1101 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 6:30 am

In post 1099, mykonian wrote:Masons. Confirmed by a (ok, questionable) cop. And you keep arguing fate's scum. And when that backfires (surprise surprise) you go into give up mode and ask for the lynch.

And now you blame (hey surprise again) fate again for everything bad in this game. Boohoo.

No, you've misread completely, I think.

I don't know if Fate is scum. I hate when people claim scum in thread, much as Fate hated Bunny's playstyle and pursued a policy lynch on her and didn't care whether or not she was scum. You do remember that, right? It was just yesterday. So even though I really haven't ever had policy lynches as such, I decided that it was time to make a stand against this particular thing. There's no way I can get Fate lynched in this game, and I'm pretty sure everyone knows this. Apparently claiming scum in thread is considered an acceptable town gambit now, even though I've just been through a game where it cost town the game pretty comprehensively.

I think Fate is anti-town. It doesn't translate to scum necessarily. I think the first part of the game is virtually a loss for anyone who is not Fate to interpret, and I've read it twice. Most of the people in the thread have basically said they got nothing from it. And that's why it makes no sense for me to try to contribute; what's the point? The game is skewed only to Fate's method of scumhunting. If Fate is town, awesome, just sheep him and don't bother to think. I can do that. If Fate is scum, though, we've lost without a chance.

But sheeping someone else and not bothering to think for myself is not why *I* play Mafia. And if that's the sort of game others enjoy, that's great. I don't. I think that's clear enough.

Mykonian, why is it okay for Fate to curse at everyone but if I suggest he might have been drinking, suddenly I've made a horrible personal attack? I am just curious on that one.

Fate · Post Post #1102 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 6:31 am

The thing is you've been presented with a situation that if I am scum it will become MORE THAN OBVIOUS after a night or two.

So now, if you agree its pro-town to sheep me then sheep me. Because I'm not voting YOU anymore.

Banshee · Post Post #1103 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 6:34 am

Meh, you're right. I don't really care either way.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: DavidXanatos

David Xanatos · Post Post #1104 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 6:35 am

Note: Noone claimed Town Governor.

Therefore, it can be assumed to be anti-town.

Therefore, it can be assumed Bunny is anti-town too.

mykonian · Post Post #1105 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 6:45 am

In post 1101, Banshee wrote:
In post 1099, mykonian wrote:Masons. Confirmed by a (ok, questionable) cop. And you keep arguing fate's scum. And when that backfires (surprise surprise) you go into give up mode and ask for the lynch.

And now you blame (hey surprise again) fate again for everything bad in this game. Boohoo.

No, you've misread completely, I think.

I don't know if Fate is scum. I hate when people claim scum in thread, much as Fate hated Bunny's playstyle and pursued a policy lynch on her and didn't care whether or not she was scum. You do remember that, right? It was just yesterday. So even though I really haven't ever had policy lynches as such, I decided that it was time to make a stand against this particular thing. There's no way I can get Fate lynched in this game, and I'm pretty sure everyone knows this. Apparently claiming scum in thread is considered an acceptable town gambit now, even though I've just been through a game where it cost town the game pretty comprehensively.

You argued for his lynch. And then masons, cop etc.

Mykonian, why is it okay for Fate to curse at everyone but if I suggest he might have been drinking, suddenly I've made a horrible personal attack? I am just curious on that one.

fate has the decency not to curse at me, and I misread that sentence (you corrected that later) where I though you discarded

my

post as being a drunkpost. You'd be annoyed too when somebody just discarded your nice argument as a drunkpost.

Banshee · Post Post #1106 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 6:50 am

In post 1105, mykonian wrote:
fate has the decency not to curse at me
, and I misread that sentence (you corrected that later) where I though you discarded
my
post as being a drunkpost. You'd be annoyed too when somebody just discarded your nice argument as a drunkpost.

I suppose that makes you lucky, then. I also don't like being cursed at and called names in thread. I'm funny like that. I don't do it to others and I probably should have replaced out the first time it happened, but I didn't want to do that to Porochaz. -shrug- My bad.

Bunnylover · Post Post #1107 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 7:19 am

In post 1104, David Xanatos wrote:Note: Noone claimed Town Governor.

Therefore, it can be assumed to be anti-town.

Therefore, it can be assumed Bunny is anti-town too.

Anti-town does not mean scum. regardless, the governor powers seem anti town, because as someone said in the thread, the power will be used on someone the people wanted lynch. that doesnt mean town wont have the power. are you saying that a govern should have not happen on a cop?

Nocmen · Post Post #1108 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 10:08 am

Wow, Fate made a move I agree with. Let's pressure the lurker.

Unvote, Vote: DX

mykonian · Post Post #1109 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 10:20 am

In post 1104, David Xanatos wrote:Note: Noone claimed Town Governor.

Therefore, it can be assumed to be anti-town.

Therefore, it can be assumed Bunny is anti-town too.

I'd love it if people read my posts. Would be really nice.

TheJakalope · Post Post #1110 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 10:45 am

Woo, time to get scum. Banshee, I've been called a VI multiple times, and even I think you're playing... wrong. You're still town.

VOTE: DavidX

That's 5, I think.

David Xanatos · Post Post #1111 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:05 pm

I'm saying a multi-shot governor is unlikely, and a Town Governor would have little problem taking a step forward and saying "It was me".

Therefore, I believe both the governor and you are scum.

StrangerCoug · Post Post #1112 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:13 pm

In post 1064, Banshee wrote:@StrangerCoug:

Do you see the pointlessness of trying to make a coherent argument/case in this particular thread? Have you, yourself, attempted it?

Do you think a better, more competent player who actually wanted to post content and analysis would do better in it?

It's more difficult, but it's not pointless. Fate is Fate. He doesn't seem to care about perpetually having a screw loose. If you're not going to try, I'm going to support the wagon on you.

In post 1077, David Xanatos wrote:Better idea.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Bunny

If it's anything but an odd-night cop flip, Masons are shite, lynch them.

The hell!? You're going to condemn the masons if Bunnylover is not an odd-night cop? For this to make remotely any sense requires Bunnylover, Fate, and mykonian to all be scum, which I don't think is true.

UNVOTE: BunnyLover
VOTE: David Xanatos

In post 1097, Banshee wrote:I don't want them turning to mislynch someone else.

I had never played with Fate before and basically I don't see a point to my existence in this game. Town is following Fate fairly blindly in my view, any attempt to question this is met with an OMGUS attack times two, and there's no real sense of logic or argument. I'm pretty sure town will either win or lose more efficiently without my help on this, and my playstyle in no way is compatible with this shrieking cursing attack that follows anything Fate doesn't like.

In short, I'm not the sort of player who enjoys this kind of constant abuse and I prefer to just be lynched in preference to whatever power-role townie Fate decides is the scum du jour next.

I am not blindly following Fate; I've mostly been going off on my own tangent. Fate did a complete 180 on Bunnylover while I'm still questioning her claim. Yeah, I believe the masons are town, but the investigation was wasted on someone who was widely considered such.

Porochaz · Post Post #1113 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:26 pm

DAY 4 VOTECOUNT 2 (There may be a mistake in here)

David - 5 - Fate, Banshee, Nocmen, TheJackalope, StrangerCoug
Bunny - 3 - dram, mos, David
Banshee - 2 - myko, bunny

Not Voting - CSL, Katsuki, Elli

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch

Deadline is in 20 days

Porochaz · Post Post #1114 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:27 pm

CSL needs replaced if you find a replacement then you win the game.

Ellibereth · Post Post #1115 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:35 pm

I'm not voting yet

Banshee · Post Post #1116 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:37 pm

UNVOTE:
UNVOTE:

Don't have two votes anyway.

Fate · Post Post #1117 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:55 pm

Its funny I bet you I woulda been force replaced a long time ago if this game weren't such a FLAKE FEST.

PORO HAS NO CHOICE BUT TO PUT UP WITH ME

HAEHAEHHAEHAEHAEA

Ellibereth · Post Post #1118 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:13 pm

Bogre - 9 - Flameaxe, Fate, TheJackalope, David, BBerry, Elli, myko, oversoul, xvart
xvart - 8 - Fate, Reck, Bunnylover, jackalope, katsuki, ellibereth, scooby, dramonic
Bunny - 7 - Fate, Katsuki, CSL, Oman, Elli, TheJackalope, David, myko

BOGRE
DEADTOWN: (Flame, Blackberry, Over)
DEADSCUM: xvart
TOWN: (Fate, Myko, Elli)
PEOPLE LEFT: (Thejack, David)

XVART
DEADTOWN: (Reck)
TOWN: (Fate, Elli)
PEOPLE LEFT: (Bunny, Jack, Katsu, Scooby, Dram)

BUNNY
DEADTOWN: (Oman)
TOWN: (Fate, Myko, Elli)
PEOPLE LEFT LEFT: (Katsu, CSL, Jack, David)

okkkkkk
so the first one is useful and stuff

Nocmen · Post Post #1119 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:29 pm

Willing to bet that Jack is scum.

David Xanatos · Post Post #1120 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:41 pm

Come at me. VT who doesn't give a shit anymore.

Nocmen · Post Post #1121 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:42 pm

Yup, definitely convincing me to unvote

David Xanatos · Post Post #1122 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:45 pm

See the second part.

I doubt the Mason claim, and I doubt the Cop claim. A Town-Governor would have no problem revealing to show themselves as saving the Cop, and Scum would have no interest in saving a real cop.

The remaining Scum are Fate, Myko and Bunny, in my opinion.

Fate · Post Post #1123 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:49 pm

Look whos posting a lot!

No way DX ACTUALLY thinks the scumteam is us three, thats fucking trash

Fate · Post Post #1124 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:51 pm

In post 992, mykonian wrote:I'm missing the "uneven" with Oman, Bunny.

vote Bunny

Oh, and think like there is a rather large piece of text how the governer is by definition an antitown role, and that it should never ever be used, since the majority of the town apparently thought that lynch was a good idea.

And don't claim either, because A. I don't want to know you and B. You might actually do something positive for once if you manage to stay alive until we need to claim.

There's no reason to out the governor at this time just to confirm a fucking COP claim as not being saved by scum. That's for MASSCLAIM.

Myko and I agreed on this pretty clearly last night.