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Post Post #500 (ISO) » Tue Sep 27, 2011 1:55 pm

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In post 490, Voidedmafia wrote:RD, is that why you believe AV isn't scum? Or is there more to it?


Thats quite a bit of it. Its a large amount of ponies who basically cannot be scum if AV is. Would be better if Whiskers (already obviously town) was not one of them, but I still think AV is more likely then not town from all of this.

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Post Post #501 (ISO) » Tue Sep 27, 2011 2:05 pm

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In post 499, Whiskers wrote:Pretty much. Analyze the flip.

Where does it say that town has Daytalk? First post?

If you meant where does it say scum have daytalk, it's in post 2, rule 8.
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Post Post #502 (ISO) » Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:20 pm

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UNVOTE: VoidedMafia
VOTE: AurorusVox
This is a hydra. It used to belong to SFG and Vi, but now it belongs to SFG and Phate.
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Post Post #503 (ISO) » Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:04 pm

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So for everypony who is refusing to give a top suspect, it would be nice to hear a response to this

Its necessary that everypony identifies who their top suspect actually is because it increases the liability of votes. Lets say we lynch town, what is to stop everypony from just shrugging their hooves and saying "well they were my second suspect". This explicitly stops that from happening by showing what the game would look like if it was normal.


because when there are competing wagons that all have two poines on, it would be very nice to know what the 'real' wagons would look at and who is using their second vote to push wagons to a lynch they view as 'sub-optimal'
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Post Post #504 (ISO) » Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:51 pm

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Gah, so so sorry! I completely forgot I was replacing in :/

Unvote


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Post Post #505 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 5:54 am

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In post 487, Alnara wrote:The deadline is coming up,

Please, where did you get this information?

@Mod: May we have a votecount, pretty please?
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Post Post #506 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:13 am

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Actually Rule #4 implies there is initially
no deadline
until the Mod sees a need for one.
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Post Post #507 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:15 am

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I will note that it is bad form to answer a question that was specifically directed at someone else.

I wanted their answer. Now I can't get it.

Thanks.
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Post Post #508 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:31 am

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Oh, I thought you didn't know..

Sorry.
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Post Post #509 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:51 am

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1. been sick with the flu. Sorry for kinda not being here.

2. My votes stand.

3. I have nothing to really add. Sorry.
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Post Post #510 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:27 am

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In post 507, Nobody Special wrote:I will note that it is bad form to answer a question that was specifically directed at someone else.

I wanted their answer. Now I can't get it.

Thanks.


The parallels to the whole mass claim are blindingly obvious.

unvote Hiraki
Vote Alana


Will you respond to my responses now or are you just going to try and sneak in the AV wagon while backing down?
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Post Post #511 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:07 pm

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So Robotnick. About those reads. Would you care to know that I'm actually interested in hearing about them?
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Post Post #512 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:38 pm

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In post 510, Rainbowdash wrote:
In post 507, Nobody Special wrote:I will note that it is bad form to answer a question that was specifically directed at someone else.

I wanted their answer. Now I can't get it.

Thanks.


The parallels to the whole mass claim are blindingly obvious.

unvote Hiraki
Vote Alana


Will you respond to my responses now or are you just going to try and sneak in the AV wagon while backing down?

Extra reasoning would be beneficial. Especially since your last post seemed to have Vox labeled as town and me labeled as scummy.
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Post Post #513 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2011 9:48 am

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Was unexpectedly without Internet for a couple of days. Will post a vote count later today.
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Post Post #514 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:02 am

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In post 512, Voidedmafia wrote:Extra reasoning would be beneficial. Especially since your last post seemed to have Vox labeled as town and me labeled as scummy.


Explain what?

My Alana read, you read or AV read?

Also can you give me a case on AV here?

unvote


For all practical purposes I still have my votes on Alana and Nintendo, but want to see what you ponies actually are saying on AV. This goes for everypony who is voting AV (sans Alana who just posted something) - Give me a small case on that pony.
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Post Post #515 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:39 pm

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Okay.

For the sake of brevity, I won't give in-depth post summaries, because VM did that and to be honest it annoyed the hell out of me. If anyone wants reasoning on a specific point, just let me know. Also, please be aware that I am not a very good reader, although English IS my native language, hence the time it's taken to read the thread. If I misquote or misunderstand you,
please do not take it out of context.


So.

I find AurorusVox an overall slightly leaning town read. You'res scummy due to your constant vote-switching with somewhat... interesting reasoning (see here, then here, here with added weird logic) however your logic with NS follows, and the fact that you're offering a 1for1 is a towntell in my book, enough to override your odd voting FOR NOW, but which I see from your meta isn't your usual play. Interesting.

I find Nobody Special actually a scum read. The excessive tunnelling of Whiskers at the beginning was... excessive. So, to prove a point, here's a question for you.
What stopped you from actually playing the game WHILST you were aggressively pursuing Whiskers?

Failing an answer to this, I will repeat it in larger and larger letters whilst actively seeking to not play the game. Cause that is so totally pro-town.
Also, you
did not unvote Rainbowdash
after she explained her gambit. It was a failed gambit, and probably wasn't such a great idea from the start, but your vote was based on the fact that...
A) she was an idiot, or B)...?

(That was a second question, for the record.)

I read Rainbowdash as town, simply put. No REAL scumtells, a few towntells, and seems to be actively hunting scum.

I read Christine as leaning town. No real scumtells, but no real towntells either, other than a general sense of mild townieness. Not really sure what else to say.

I read Friend as leaning scum. Slight anti-town style, and s/he hasn't read the setup, and yet ignores Rainbow's question on whether s/he's trolling or not.

I read Alnara as... active lurking scum. Has anyone actually read their ISO? They have 11 posts,
6
of which are non-game related, and of the other 5, one is a seemingly random vote, one almost looks like RVS... 100 posts and 2 MW days into the game, one is the Hiraki defence, one is some strangely logical KJvsHH debate, and one is a list of all the people they find "scummy", but with the reasoning taken SO FAR out of context.

I read Whiskers as null. Completely null, I can't see any town or scumtells in what he's saying. I do find his avoidance of NS's incessant questioning a little off, but that's not screaming town/scumtell to me.

Hiraki, I really really really hate lurkers. REALLY hate them. And you are one. I can't get a read on you because most everything you've said is worthless. Start playing, or request replacement please, just stop screwing the game up.

I read killerjester as null with a tad of town. Seems to be trying to scumhunt. Be careful hoever that you don't try too hard, lest you appear scummy.

I read Nintendo as town, his logic makes sense and he is also actively scumhunting, pushing the game forward. I do agree however that the logic surrounding the whole "ad hom" controversy was a little shady.

Now. The big question.
I read Voidedmafia as leaning town. A bit of content, and some good scumhunting. Not much, but it's there.

I believe that's everyone. With regards to the above, I feel my votes would be best placed here:
VOTE: Nobody Special
VOTE: Alnara


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Post Post #516 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:42 pm

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In post 513, ThAdmiral wrote:Was unexpectedly without Internet for a couple of days. Will post a vote count later today.

How bout that vote count, sir?
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Post Post #517 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:30 pm

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Ah, ah, I LIKE Robotnick's list. He puts AuV as a scummy townie, which I'm cool with-- he doesn't ignore AuV's scumminess, but finds better (in his mind) places for his vote.

I'm also fairly happy with his null-read on me, it means I'm town. If he had a town read on me, I'd be worried.
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Post Post #518 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:34 pm

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If Alanara is scum, I should be scum by chainsaw defense.

Not liking these reads.

With that being said, let's flip these up a bit

Unvote, Unvote
Vote: Chrisitne
Vote: Friend


I'm pretty sure Chrisitine was the only one who should've switched. And that was from Aurorous who is now nullish.

not very null though. Not lynch worthy yet.
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Post Post #519 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:42 pm

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What is it about Nobody Special that makes you think him not scum?

Please note, I am using "correct," "man-speak" terms for this post, just to appeal to you. I really want to know what's going on in your head, because I don't really understand any of what you say. Please, a case? [/beg_beg_beg]
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Post Post #520 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:50 pm

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He never talks as scum.
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Post Post #521 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:49 pm

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"Never" being relative to how much he talks as town?
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Post Post #522 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:58 pm

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Robotnik, it's called tunneling. I do it sometimes.

Also, my vote remains on Rainbow dash because she's an idiot. Or scum. Same difference.
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Post Post #523 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:20 pm

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The Much Awaited Vote count

AurorusVox - 4 (Voidedmafia, Friend Marisil, nintendoaddict1, Alnara)
Voidedmafia - 1 (killerjester)
nintendoaddict1 - 5 (AurorusVox, killerjester, Voidedmafia, Christine, Whiskers)
Christine - 1 (Hiraki)
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Friend Mairsil - 2 (Whiskers, Hiraki)
Hiraki
Alnara - 1 (Robotnick2)
Whiskers - 3 (AurorusVox, Nobody Special, Friend Marisil)
Rainbowdash - 3 (Alnara, Nobody Special, nintendoaddict1)
Nobody Special - 2 (Christine, Robotnick2)

Not voting - Rainbowdash

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Post Post #524 (ISO) » Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:22 pm

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Oooo, thanks Hiraki, I was starting to feel ignored!

But, why am I scummy again? I didn't shift my votes? The ones I see scummy, I am voting for... sorry I won't shift...?

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