AGar: I had done all my day 1 leg work on other players. My role states that I have to be true to the rightful heir right, and early on I was trying to play in theme and DX made it clear he was the rightful heir so I chose to side with him. SK was out to get him so I instantly took the opposite stance to SK. So SK turned out town, my read was wrong, but I accepted that before the night came anyway. His abrasiveness did nothing to sweeten my stance on him so him being the major mouthpiece for the Empking lynch put me off side. I didn't want him to be right because he was playing exactly the style my role PM said to oppose, opposing the rightful heir (DX). DX turned me towards Vezok and I agreed that Vezok looked scummy. Vezok was DX's attempt at undermining the Empking wagon, but because DX is a mason town he of course is above suspicion. I guess DX was opposing the Empking wagon for the same reason I was. Just didn't like the cut of SK's jib.
As for doing nothing of my own leg work, what did Shinki do of leg work? She looked at the DX vs SK situation and took a wide berth, then jumped on the easy vote at the time (Gandalf) then came back later and bussed the obvscum.
In post 767, monk wrote: In post 766, MacDougall wrote: In post 765, monk wrote:I think her shrugging off everything you suggested is somewhat justified considering that imo her train of thought is able to be seen through her posts which you chose not to post,
So why exactly did you vote for Empking, you appear to have been suspicious of Shinki for wagon hoping, constantly saying things like "Empking is less scummy than Shinki" then turn around and hammer Empking, I don't understand how you can think that this doesn't make you scummy. Here's how I read your ISO:
LALALA This is fun!!
OH NOES YOUSE GAIZ ARE ON MAI BUDDY LETS GO LYNCH SHINKI INSTEAD
OH SHI-- MY BUDDY GOING DOWN NEW PLAN:
- BACKPEDDLE
- HAMMER
- ???
- TOWNCRED?
You must be a mind reader or something because to me, Shinki's train of thought is irrationally all over the place.
I was suspicious of Shinki before Empking even posted. I first called her out in this post;
In post 136, MacDougall wrote: In post 133, Shinki wrote:Indeed, that's not nice at all.
Unvote:
Vote: gandalf5166
Just because this situation is much less confusing than David/SK issue.
Your three posts have all set off alarm bells in my head Shinki. The David/SK issue isn't confusing at all if you'd bother to read it and then you waited until someone else popped the cherry before you voted on gandalf. What do you mean by "indeed, that's not nice at all?" You read as though you are just jumping on a chance to get the focus off of one of these two.
Empking hadn't even posted in the game at that stage. So at no stage did I make up my issue with Shinki to distract from Empking. Keep trying.
Why, yes you did post that before Empking posted, however at the moment since SK has flipped town and I know DX is town, she can't be trying to get the attention away from scum, therefore this is blown out of the water, try again. I never said that you were making up something on Shinki, I said that you were pushing for Shinki and Vezokpiraka over Empking and based on your reasoning in the post that you described above you are pushing Shinki for associative tells on two townies.... huh?
She rang alarm bells back then by being non-committal to the major town issue and then throwing an easy vote at Gandalf, the thought at the time being that it was to protect a potential scum, but in hindsight it could just as easily be to stay off a dangerous looking wagon. If you were scum, would you come in and level a vote at one of the two loudest town players, or would you throw an easy vote at another town player with a simpler case against him?
Look there are plenty of things you are glossing over on Shinki. What was with the east thing? Why did she blatantly refuse to answer my question? You are masons with DX and he outed that there are a faction of you so what is it? Is Shinki part of your town faction then? There has to be a reason why you are just outright refusing to address the scummy things she's done, and are seeing them in such a positive light.
I can see that being the most vocally opposed to a major PR for scum being lynched looks bad, but I will fight until the gallows because I am conclusively innocent.
