NY 142: Rolling in the Deep, WAIT WAT? PARTY OVER?!
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theamatuer Mafia Scum
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theamatuer Mafia Scum
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In post 501, Beck wrote:Theam, why is your play much calmer this game?
Also, do you have a completed scum game on site?
If yes, link please.
Well there hasnt been anyone screaming "OMG I AM SO TOTALLY SCUM" and there hasn't been anybody defending said person, so yeah.
And I have never had a scum role.Its just whatever-
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popsofctown SheSurvivorShe
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bvoigt wrote:
This post indicates to me that pops' read of Zdenek wasn't sincere. For one thing, he was saying earlier that "his early behavior seems like one of the scummiest things ever," so it doesn't seem like he would suddenly change his mind. Furthermore, pops' original reason for his vote was that Zdenek was backpedaling and saying that a serious policy lynch was a joke. If anything, wouldn't knowing the actual reason behind Zdenek's original suggestion make it more likely that the suggestion was serious? (Did this paragraph make any sense?)
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If you build Rube Goldberg machines out of BB code I can't nested quote you >_<
You're slightly misrepping my case. The case was lynch all liars, not waffling. It's either an extremely strong scumtell if the original statement was true, or not much if it is false.
He's still scummy, but now it's his choice to chainsaw for himself instead of taking numerous opportunities given to him to explain himself that stands as the only tell I have against him."Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"-
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In post 497, Pine wrote:This is starting to stall a bit.
Okay, everyone in your next post, please list your top three or four preferences (not your top one that we've heard about ad nauseum) fortoday'slynch and a sentence or two aboutwhyfor each. Again, preferably in new words an not the same ones you've used before. Rank-ordering is a plus.
Rank 1: thamatuer - absurdly scummy behavior setting up the false dilemma of Pine or Beck scum, and seems like the brand of VI I can't discern between VItown and VIscum.
Like, he has behaved so scummy that if I gave him a pass for being a weak player, I would have to rate him so low he'd be in policy lynch territory, so might as well lynch them. Policy/scummy hybrids are often better than either alone.
Rank 2: funkybike1 - This time it's lurking instead of ability, but the effect is the same- scummy player that will be unreadable the rest of the game and so also has a PL aspect.
Rank 3:"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"-
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Rank 9: Sky, for underexplained wagon hopping in his last post..
Rank 10: Shattered Viewpoint, VI hunting rather than actual scumhunting as much as I can recall."Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"-
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In post 507, Revenus wrote:Nah, changed my night I AM going to vig you tonight,
This is antitown behavior. More experienced players have explained to you that this is anti-town behavior. Please stop engaging in antitown behavior.
Also, get an avatar.
Spoiler: spoiler"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"-
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In post 512, popsofctown wrote:In post 507, Revenus wrote:Nah, changed my night I AM going to vig you tonight,
This is antitown behavior. More experienced players have explained to you that this is anti-town behavior. Please stop engaging in antitown behavior.
Also, get an avatar.
Spoiler: spoiler
I'm plenty experienced playing forum mafia thank you very much.-
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In post 500, theamatuer wrote:
Pine: one of beck/Pine is scum, and Pine seems the better canidate of the two
Why?
why does one have to be scum?
why cant they both be town?
what has alerted you to the fact one of them HAS to be scum?-
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theamatuer Mafia Scum
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In post 516, Slandaar wrote:In post 500, theamatuer wrote:
Pine: one of beck/Pine is scum, and Pine seems the better canidate of the two
Why?
why does one have to be scum?
why cant they both be town?
what has alerted you to the fact one of them HAS to be scum?
I feel that one of them should be scum based on the interaction between Beck and Pine
That possibility could happen, but one of them being scum is way more possible.
And they dont HAVE to be scum, its they SHOULD be scum due to their constant attacking of each other.Its just whatever-
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In post 517, theamatuer wrote:In post 516, Slandaar wrote:In post 500, theamatuer wrote:
Pine: one of beck/Pine is scum, and Pine seems the better canidate of the two
Why?
why does one have to be scum?
why cant they both be town?
what has alerted you to the fact one of them HAS to be scum?
I feel that one of them should be scum based on the interaction between Beck and Pine
That possibility could happen, but one of them being scum is way more possible.
And they dont HAVE to be scum, its they SHOULD be scum due to their constant attacking of each other.
The bolded is astunninglogical fallacy. Shit, I don't even know whether that makes him more or less scummy at this point. If I thought he were feigning that kind of illogic, or trying to manipulate others into believing it, then yeah. But if he actually believes that makes sense, that throws a lot of my read off. It's like fencing with an 8-year-old (nerd alert). When fencing a novice adult, an experienced fencer can beat them easily, because adults (or at least those prone to taking up fencing) have been inundated their whole lives with poor examples of the skill. They're predictable and it's easy to get in their head. But children are sometimes the most frustrating opponents, because you don't knowwhatthe fuck they're going to do. Or why. Total wild cards, even if their attacks don't make an ounce of sense, they can catch you off-guard by how ridiculous they are."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
Act 3, Scene 1 ofJulius Caesar, by W. Shakespeare-
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In post 515, Revenus wrote:In post 512, popsofctown wrote:In post 507, Revenus wrote:Nah, changed my night I AM going to vig you tonight,
This is antitown behavior. More experienced players have explained to you that this is anti-town behavior. Please stop engaging in antitown behavior.
Also, get an avatar.
Spoiler: spoiler
I'm plenty experienced playing forum mafia thank you very much.
There's quantity of experience and there's quality of experience. Few, if any, other forums have a meta as strong as mafiascum does.
Early claiming vig is bad. Simple logical exercises should be able to get you from that to softclaiming vig is bad. Whether you're actually vig or not, scum have a WIFOM presented to them about whether you are the vig. This provides scum with information about your role if they see through it. There is no need to give them that info in the first place.
Someone else tell him to get an avatar, since I'm pretty sure he's deliberately going without one because he doesn't like me and I'm the one asking."Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"-
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In post 520, Pine wrote:In post 517, theamatuer wrote:In post 516, Slandaar wrote:In post 500, theamatuer wrote:
Pine: one of beck/Pine is scum, and Pine seems the better canidate of the two
Why?
why does one have to be scum?
why cant they both be town?
what has alerted you to the fact one of them HAS to be scum?
I feel that one of them should be scum based on the interaction between Beck and Pine
That possibility could happen, but one of them being scum is way more possible.
And they dont HAVE to be scum, its they SHOULD be scum due to their constant attacking of each other.
The bolded is astunninglogical fallacy. Shit, I don't even know whether that makes him more or less scummy at this point. If I thought he were feigning that kind of illogic, or trying to manipulate others into believing it, then yeah. But if he actually believes that makes sense, that throws a lot of my read off. It's like fencing with an 8-year-old (nerd alert). When fencing a novice adult, an experienced fencer can beat them easily, because adults (or at least those prone to taking up fencing) have been inundated their whole lives with poor examples of the skill. They're predictable and it's easy to get in their head. But children are sometimes the most frustrating opponents, because you don't knowwhatthe fuck they're going to do. Or why. Total wild cards, even if their attacks don't make an ounce of sense, they can catch you off-guard by how ridiculous they are.
Which is why, given the choice, you'd watch an adult fencer's previous games to learn his tendencies, as predicting the child's behavior has become a lost cause. In the same way, it's sometimes better to keep readable players around D2 and give up on guessing at the illogical ones."Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"-
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1. He Probably isn't the vig
2. Soft claiming vig as town, is still not preferred, but it's not bad play because mafia does have to decide if he is telling the truth.
@ Rev, I'm asking you nicely, please treat stop trying to discredit me. I can point to multiple points to where you keep trying to discredit me, calling me a retard is yet another attempt. If you have noticed I have setteled down from my earlier rage.
I'll take this time to apologize to shattered, you pissed me off and I went too far.
I'd like pine and Rev to stop ignoring me also.
Thanks.Beck =/= The band
Beck = a football player
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