@ Pine, let's look at your reason why Rev was protown
14. Revenus: Finally, someone I have a solidly positive read on. I'm willing to go out on a limb and state that I find the cases and votes on Revenus to be without merit. Rev and I been on similar wavelengths (his words) all game, which to me indicates that he is processing things in an uninformed, reasoning, deductive manner. While his scumhunting is not as effective as I would desire, he is absolutely trying. Effectiveness is bred from experience, Rev, and you're doing well.
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Rev and I been on similar wavelengths (his words) all game
Is it possible he was buddying you?
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to me indicates that he is processing things in an uninformed, reasoning, deductive manner
hate to break it to you but this is an example of wifom. You are basically saying that you think he is town because he is doing something town would most likely do (btw, scum wants to look pro-town so they would do things to make them look pro-town)
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While his scumhunting is not as effective as I would desire, he is absolutely trying
is he trying or could he be pretending? here is a quote from salandar
Scum dont scumhunt, they pretend to scumhunt, you cant genuinely scumhunt when you know who the scum are already.
how can you tell if rev is actually trying to scum hunt or just pretending?
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Effectiveness is bred from experience, Rev, and you're doing well.
I have no clue what this is supposed to mean, I am assuming you are saying he will get better with time?
my point is, this entire game is WIFOM.
a town read is based on wifom just like a scum read is.
player A is town because he has said something or done something that I agree with so he must be town
is the same thing as
Player B is scum because he has said something or done something that I disagree with so he must be scum
which is the same thing as
Player C has done something that i don't think scum would do, so he must be town
so yeah my read on funky is WIFOM, but your earlier read on Rev is also WIFOM
you have to look at the motives behind the actions.
what would mafia have to gain by funky's play? it's a game of 22 people, which means there are 4 or 5 mafia probably and maybe a SK, why would scum claim to be a vig and risk being shot by the real vig?
Rev claimed vig also, so if funky is scum for claiming vig, than rev would be scum for claiming vig too.
but wait, he isn't scum for the vig claim, he is scum for his votes.
Can anyone point me to a game where mafia did something so obvious like bandwagon vote 2 people back to back without any sort of justification behind it? If you can than sure we can discuss it, but typically like Salandar said, scum wants to pretend to scum hunt. Funky isn't prentending to scum hunt, he is being completely useless and drawing attention to himself.
i honestly feel that scum would not do that, is it wifom? yes absolutely it is. If he is scum, I will have egg on my face, but why not let the cop investigate him(assuming we have one) and we go after somebody who fits the definition provided by Salandar
to remind people, this is what Salandar said scum does
Scum dont scumhunt, they pretend to scumhunt, you cant genuinely scumhunt when you know who the scum are already.
now look at Rev's ISO, and that is what you will see, somebody pretending to scum hunt.
