The Aftermath - Victors Announced

[Pine]

Also, only Town is going to self-sacrifice to save Elli. We lose conf. Town to save an unknown. And don't give me "they'd have to NK him later", someone is dying either way. If Elli flips Town, it's a null loss for Town in terms of numbers.

Kuribo, pull your head out of your ass. He's only confirmed if Elli flips scum, and only if we ignore bus driver mechanics.

[kuribo]

He's only confirmed if Elli flips scum,

SpyreX as scum is slippery as shit and he's never confirmed to me until he's dead.

[kuribo]

barring redirection mechanics.

And there was no redirection, SpyreX already flat out said he chose Elli.

[Katsuki]

NO BIG LOSS IF ELLIE FLIPS TOWN?

WE LOSE

FUCKING

ELLI

SOMEONE THAT SCUM WOULD HAVE TO NK AT SOME POINT

Fate, you've played with Elli more than I have. He's lurking alot.

Is he town?

I've HYDRA'd with Elli, he's not town.

I've HYDRA'd with Elli more times than you, and he definately should be dying NAO.

[xRECKONERx]

let Elli die

[Hoppster]

springlullaby's posts today

Will catch up today.

I'm go with a Rhinox wagon.

Vote Rhinox

Vote fate

^^
So cheeky. Lulz.

Vote rhinox

Vote shattered viewpoint

Why are you voting me?

moar springlullaby voats pl0x

@

DGB

: Why are SocioPath and Sleepless Assassin still on your list of reads?


Unless we're going to let Rhinox ride a conftown until endgame (which I would disagree with fwiw, as it absolutely cannot be ruled out that he is gambitting scum until he actually sacrifices himself), I'm of the opinion that he should self-sacrifice, largely for the reasons he explains himself here:

Still intending to switch unless ppretty much everyone demands i dont. Its not just me vs elli, you guys can still lynch him afteri switch. I dont want to not switch even if you guys ask me not to and then here later on SURELY IT WAS JUST A PLOY TO GET PEOPLE OFF YOUR WAGON YOU HADNO INTENTION OF. SWITCHING DID YOU RHINOX HUH SCUM????? Or kept around as lynchbait for lylo WELL I GUESS IT WAS RHINOX ALL ALONG.

If we're going to let him live but not treat him as a conftown, then I anticipate we're going to have to lynch him at some point because, assuming he's not scum, I hardly see scum NK'ing him (no offence meant), so he may as well die today.

[Pine]

Holy shit, Hoppster's right.

Unvote
Vote: springlullaby

[kuribo]

If we're going to let him live but not treat him as a conftown, then I anticipate we're going to have to lynch him at some point because, assuming he's not scum, I hardly see scum NK'ing him (no offence meant), so he may as well die today.

geedee, son, this post is town as eff.

[xRECKONERx]

unvote vote spring

[elvis_knits]

I can probably do a bit better than this tomorrow, but for right now, I'm not a fan of derailing the Rhinox wagon with SL wagon.

Rhinox being L-2 is not a good time for hoppster to go "Rhinox seems scummy but how about my SL case." IT's one thing if you don't think rhinox is scum, but to soft support the rhinox case WHILE you derail it is scummy.

Then Kuribo explains to katsuki how scummy rhinox is and switches to SL wagon in the same page.

Then Zdenek posts a shitty analysis of two wagons (SA and Rhinox) and uses thta as an excuse to get on the SL wagon. (One reason this analysis is so fail is that you have to assume rhinox is town for it to make sense).

KK then votes SL. But I like KK, so this is okay I guess.

I also like Katsuki, despite feeling like I shouldn't.

I didn't like Seraphim voting DGB without explanation. Although everyone's been doing that, it rubbed me wrong since he replaced in and I have no memory of him in this game or who he replaced.

Also, I have two reasons I don't like this SL wagon. 1)Started when Rhinox was L-2 with a "rhinox is scum but let's wagon SL" and 2)I like most of her votes even if content is low.

[Hoppster]

Rhinox being L-2 is not a good time for hoppster to go "Rhinox seems scummy but how about my SL case." IT's one thing if you don't think rhinox is scum, but to soft support the rhinox case WHILE you derail it is scummy.

It was only then (Rhinox at L-2) that I remembered that this game had no deadlines.

I've had it drilled into me from past games / reading other games that Large Games are all about town compromising for lynches, because otherwise nothing gets done.

I was

satisfied

with the Rhinox wagon, and in a game with normal deadlines I would have been happy for it to be the lynch wagon.

However, when I remembered that there was no deadline, I thought to myself: "Why should I compromise for a wagon which is clearly not the best one when we have time for everybody to realise that they should be voting springlullaby?"

With no deadline, we have time to ensure that we get

the best lynch

, not a merely 'satisfactory' lynch, each and every day.

Also, I have two reasons I don't like this SL wagon. 1)Started when Rhinox was L-2 with a "rhinox is scum but let's wagon SL" and 2)I like most of her votes even if content is low.

1) I have explained above.


2) Baffles me. She clearly is making no attempt today at all and shows no concern at lacking any content, seemingly content to just dip under the radar. She offers no response despite being attacked by me earlier today, and the only vote on her she reacts to at all is Shattered Viewpoint's vote. She's offered no stances or input today and is almost revelling in her own uselessness.

I paticularly destest her #1382 - she KNOWS she's being far more useless than Lowell and I just get this overwhelming sense of scum glee from her post.

[Hinduragi]

Rhinox should not switch because he's been obvtown as fuck. I'll be taking the bullet before he does. If he's lynched, then this is badtown. His wagon feels almost exactly like SA's and we all know where that one turned out.

Seraphim, Grimmjow, Shattered Viewpoint, Zdenek, Lowell, and Springlullaby all need to be vigged but basing the case on them "not providing much content" as the reason they should be lynched D2 with one mislynch already is retarded.

THUS WE HAVE SCUMREX

THUS WEHAVE DGB SCUM

WE ALSO HAVE RHINOX SCUM

AND HINDU SCUM

You have got to be fucking kidding me. All of your scumreads are town.

[kuribo]

Then Kuribo explains to katsuki how scummy rhinox is and switches to SL wagon in the same page.

I didn't explain how scummy Rhinox was. He asked why there was a wagon.

HUGE difference.

[Ellibereth]

catch scum with one line reasons and lurkerhunt
is lurking nowadays
jesus this
this happened in FLASH too and lookylookylooky.

Whatever, let me die, I'll bring down scum with me as some of you better post-mortem sheep.

[Ellibereth]

let Elli die

what the fuck

et tu?

[Ellibereth]

Yeah sure
dying and shit is all fine
but you being nonchalant about it
hell, i expected a Fate-like reaction.

....

[SpyreX]

I'll get to you game more tomorrow.

NOW THAT SOME THINGS ARE DONE MY HANDS ARE FREEEEEED

[Lowell]

Another game needed my attention today. Will catch up on thsi soon.

[DrippingGoofball]

Rhinox being L-2 is not a good time for hoppster to go "Rhinox seems scummy but how about my SL case." IT's one thing if you don't think rhinox is scum, but to soft support the rhinox case WHILE you derail it is scummy.

Then Kuribo explains to katsuki how scummy rhinox is and switches to SL wagon in the same page.

QFT

[DrippingGoofball]

@

DGB

: Why are SocioPath and Sleepless Assassin still on your list of reads?

I'll put them in green and bold in the next edition.

[DrippingGoofball]

Another game needed my attention today. Will catch up on thsi soon.

DIE

[DrippingGoofball]

Re: springlullaby

Would she hop THAT SHAMELESSLY as scum?

I just iso'd her, she has a love of wagons that verges on the pathological.

[DrippingGoofball]

I really have to consider that SL may be scum.

[kuribo]

Actually, Shattered Viewpoint should take Ellie's place.

why? How is SV any less useful to the town then lowell? Or you?

[kuribo]

and if any of you guys are on the fence about SL, when I get home this afternoon, I'll explain why I think she's scummy. Even over Rhinox.