Open 347: White Flag Mafia (Game Over)

SleepyKrew · Post Post #975 (ISO) » Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:35 pm

Of course that's not the full case. Hence "from your last post alone".

Amrun · Post Post #976 (ISO) » Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:39 pm

In post 971, SleepyKrew wrote:PEDIT: ILL DO IT TO AND OH LOOK AMRUN IS IGNORING
MY LATEST POINTS AGAINST HER
SHES SCUM

Herpderp?

But all your other points suck just as much.

SKrew, I think you are town.

Just wrong.

ScreamingHawk · Post Post #977 (ISO) » Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:25 pm

In post 976, Amrun wrote:
In post 971, SleepyKrew wrote:PEDIT: ILL DO IT TO AND OH LOOK AMRUN IS IGNORING
MY LATEST POINTS AGAINST HER
SHES SCUM

Herpderp?

But all your other points suck just as much.

SKrew, I think you are town.

Just wrong.

THIS.
But Amrun, case on FB vs TS?

Twistedspoon · Post Post #978 (ISO) » Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:06 pm

In post 961, Equinox wrote:
In post 958, Twistedspoon wrote:It's more a matter of if you lynch town again then I'll review you again and not see you as town as I think you now.
Not sure I understand your question. If you don't lynch town again, I'm happy for now.

Okay, that's fair. Let me rephrase my question. Suppose we have a mislynch today, but I did not participate in the lynch. What would you think then?

then I'd like to think that your NS wagoning was a one-off and that we both share the same aim of lynching the same faction

In post 976, Amrun wrote:
In post 971, SleepyKrew wrote:PEDIT: ILL DO IT TO AND OH LOOK AMRUN IS IGNORING
MY LATEST POINTS AGAINST HER
SHES SCUM

Herpderp?

But all your other points suck just as much.

SKrew, I think you are town.

Just wrong.

why do you think he is town?

Amrun · Post Post #979 (ISO) » Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:10 pm

Gut and meta for the most part. I think he'd be a lot more likely to buddy me as scum than oppose me.

Twistedspoon · Post Post #980 (ISO) » Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:16 pm

In post 979, Amrun wrote:Gut and meta for the most part. I think he'd be a lot more likely to buddy me as scum than oppose me.

in my opinion, when a player cannot provide reasons for why they want their lynch, that doesn't seem very town

however I might agree with you on meta there

@sk: what alignment were you in zom com mafia?

jerobbo · Post Post #981 (ISO) » Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:15 pm

Amrun how come you ignored SH question in 977 but then answered TS one post later?

I still think Amrun and Fruit Basket are scum and would like to lynch either of those 2 today.

Amrun · Post Post #982 (ISO) » Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:16 pm

Missed it.

SH, please clarify your question.

bvoigt · Post Post #983 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:57 am

Sorry, ran out of time for this game. Let me post this evening.

Fruit Basket · Post Post #984 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:23 am

In post 981, jerobbo wrote:I still think Amrun and Fruit Basket are scum and would like to lynch either of those 2 today.

yeah I'm buss'ing amrun. help me lynch her.

jerobbo · Post Post #985 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:43 am

In post 984, Fruit Basket wrote:
In post 981, jerobbo wrote:I still think Amrun and Fruit Basket are scum and would like to lynch either of those 2 today.

yeah I'm buss'ing amrun. help me lynch her.

Ok!

jerobbo · Post Post #986 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:45 am

But nah you're not bussing anyone, you were just going to have a fierce argument so people would ignore you and let the two of you go at it.

It was all too forced.

jerobbo · Post Post #987 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:49 am

You could have at least carried on after I called you on it though.

jerobbo · Post Post #988 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:50 am

In post 982, Amrun wrote:Missed it.

SH, please clarify your question.

Missed it and then asking for clarification as well - surely using only one stalling tactic would have been enough??

ScreamingHawk · Post Post #989 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:17 am

In post 819, Amrun wrote:Torn between voting fruit and twistedspoon.

VOTE: fruit basket

It's interesting that TS expresses a townread and fruit tries to undermine it. Especially early game, that's a scumtell.

You voted FB after only making a (weak) comment about TS being scum. Why not vote TS then? What's your case on FB.

Twistedspoon · Post Post #990 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:25 am

In post 989, ScreamingHawk wrote:
In post 819, Amrun wrote:Torn between voting fruit and twistedspoon.

VOTE: fruit basket

It's interesting that TS expresses a townread and fruit tries to undermine it. Especially early game, that's a scumtell.

You voted FB after only making a (weak) comment about TS being scum. Why not vote TS then? What's your case on FB.

uh, I think you misread the last sentence. Amrun is saying she thought she got a scumtell from fruit, which is why she's voting him :p

Amrun · Post Post #991 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:47 am

In post 990, Twistedspoon wrote:
In post 989, ScreamingHawk wrote:
In post 819, Amrun wrote:Torn between voting fruit and twistedspoon.

VOTE: fruit basket

It's interesting that TS expresses a townread and fruit tries to undermine it. Especially early game, that's a scumtell.

You voted FB after only making a (weak) comment about TS being scum. Why not vote TS then? What's your case on FB.

uh, I think you misread the last sentence. Amrun is saying she thought she got a scumtell from fruit, which is why she's voting him :p

This, also I spent the whole of day 1 talking about C_p, which is ts. I am still somewhat conflicted there; my opinion on c_p hasn't changed, but ts is working on changing my mind, and with the night kill, if I had been right, I could have easily been killed instead of

Fruit Basket not only committed the scumtell I noted there, but pushed Nobody Special waaaaay too hard in my opinion for what amounted to very little. Had NS been scum, FB would have been definitely town. NS being town throws a wrench in.

I can't bring myself to address the stupidity of jerrobo...

Okay, jerobbo, I gave you townpoints for your replace in post because it was too wishy washy for scum to be open about. Now you're sticking to your terrible, terrible read on me and fruit basket with a level of conviction your reads list in NO WAY DISPLAYED. You're just mudslinging with a ridiculous theory.

Show how we have staged an argument, which is a crazy theory in the first place. You assign a scum motivation of distancing, but we haven't really done that, either. We're starting to do more of what could be called that, now, but day 1 was nothing of the sort. Do you know what distancing means? Squabbling doesn't do anything for or against your chances of being scum together.

ScreamingHawk · Post Post #992 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:37 am

Just fyi Amrun. The best case I can see from you for C_P being scum is your very first post. Because of the quick lynch thing. Was that it? You make a couple more vague references to his appearing newbscum but that's all I can see. Please quote / explain otherwise because I've asked you this so many times before and your response to look but through your iso does not help me here.

Amrun · Post Post #993 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:41 am

In post 992, ScreamingHawk wrote:Just fyi Amrun. The best case I can see from you for C_P being scum is your very first post. Because of the quick lynch thing. Was that it? You make a couple more vague references to his appearing newbscum but that's all I can see. Please quote / explain otherwise because I've asked you this so many times before and your response to look but through your iso does not help me here.

There are SO MANY other reasons, many of which I noted. He was very inconsistent; at first, he was cautious, but then pushed to end the day with just as little cause. One indicates one type of newbie, the other a totally different type. You can't both be the cautious and incautious type of newbie. It's incongruous.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #994 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:10 am

I HAVE been providing reasons.
TS, Town.

Twistedspoon · Post Post #995 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:15 am

In post 993, Amrun wrote:
In post 992, ScreamingHawk wrote:Just fyi Amrun. The best case I can see from you for C_P being scum is your very first post. Because of the quick lynch thing. Was that it? You make a couple more vague references to his appearing newbscum but that's all I can see. Please quote / explain otherwise because I've asked you this so many times before and your response to look but through your iso does not help me here.

There are SO MANY other reasons, many of which I noted. He was very inconsistent; at first, he was cautious, but then pushed to end the day with just as little cause. One indicates one type of newbie, the other a totally different type. You can't both be the cautious and incautious type of newbie. It's incongruous.

so is the inconsistent newbie the town or scum one? I find many newbies of both alignments to be inconsistent and irrational, especially as a fish-out-of-water in a mini normal (not the comfotable newbie game zone)

but like I've said, I'm not interested in defending my predecessor really.

Amrun · Post Post #996 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:24 am

In post 995, Twistedspoon wrote:
In post 993, Amrun wrote:
In post 992, ScreamingHawk wrote:Just fyi Amrun. The best case I can see from you for C_P being scum is your very first post. Because of the quick lynch thing. Was that it? You make a couple more vague references to his appearing newbscum but that's all I can see. Please quote / explain otherwise because I've asked you this so many times before and your response to look but through your iso does not help me here.

There are SO MANY other reasons, many of which I noted. He was very inconsistent; at first, he was cautious, but then pushed to end the day with just as little cause. One indicates one type of newbie, the other a totally different type. You can't both be the cautious and incautious type of newbie. It's incongruous.

so is the inconsistent newbie the town or scum one? I find many newbies of both alignments to be inconsistent and irrational, especially as a fish-out-of-water in a mini normal (not the comfotable newbie game zone)

but like I've said, I'm not interested in defending my predecessor really.

Sure they can be inconsistent, but not in that manner. If he were cautious, he wouldn't turn around and act like he's used to 24 hour days where the first wagon dies ... as town, anyway. It just doesn't make sense.

bvoigt · Post Post #997 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:39 am

In post 942, pidgey wrote:Equi- don't understand your vote on me? Yeah I missunderstood the setup a bit, I say that and you vote me? Ok. Anyway, yes I think that no one should get a free pass because of a slip. I don't even think that SH and fat were scum (at least not yesterday). But if they start doing scummy stuff should I give them a free pass? Lol no. Anyway I'm town. Equi seems kinda in the middle to me to be honest.

Also meta as an offense is ok. Its ok when people think someone is playing differently as when they played as town or something. But self meta sucks. And I never use self meta, or even rarely use meta as an offense. People play differently and evolve. Or they play differenltly just because they want.My vote on quilford is because his play has sucked. Him saying "I'm town confirmed cause of self meta" does little to me.

On the other hand, fatlikepig jumping on an opinion when he had multiple chances to do so before is bad.

vote: fatlikepig

You just jumped on someone else's opinion with this post. How is it a scumtell?

In post 969, Equinox wrote:I need 6 people to tell me they're going to lynch me unless I methodically run down all 39 pages of this thread by Friday evening PST.

Seriously. I'm running in circles at this point, and it looks like I'm going to be useless until I actually sit down and reread this thread in light of flip.

I will!

In post 988, jerobbo wrote:
In post 982, Amrun wrote:Missed it.

SH, please clarify your question.

Missed it and then asking for clarification as well - surely using only one stalling tactic would have been enough??

This question is bad, both in its accusation and its wording.

Fruit Basket · Post Post #998 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:10 pm

In post 985, jerobbo wrote:
In post 984, Fruit Basket wrote:
In post 981, jerobbo wrote:I still think Amrun and Fruit Basket are scum and would like to lynch either of those 2 today.

yeah I'm buss'ing amrun. help me lynch her.

Ok!

you forgot your vote!

i'm a bit distracted today and tomorrow, will get to this then.

fatlikepig · Post Post #999 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:42 pm

Jerobbo's recent posts, whoooooooa boy

Jerobbo wrote:But nah you're not bussing anyone, you were just going to have a fierce argument so people would ignore you and let the two of you go at it.

It was all too forced.

This actually makes no sense.
"WE'LL HAVE AN ARGUMENT SO EVERYONE IGNORES ME"? How does that even work? Why was their argument forced?

Jerobbo wrote:Missed it and then asking for clarification as well - surely using only one stalling tactic would have been enough??

What? Missing a post is not a scumtell. Asking for clarification is not a scumtell.

Jerobbo's making up reasons to vote Amrun. This seems very much like scum knowing that they've just jumped onto a mislynch wagon, and that they need to find their "own reasons" for lynching someone in order to avoid being suspicious. Neither of the things he's raised are even remotely scummy, and while in my case I'm unsure about Amrun's alignment, Jerobbo's posts do not sit well with me at all.