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Post Post #850 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:33 am

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We're not sure the third party is a killing role or not.
But yeah, VP being blocked on a night where there weren't as many kills as expected increases the odds he's scum.
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Post Post #851 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:38 am

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I believe Llamarble's claim. I think if he were fakeclaiming, he would have done it with more cognizance about how strange the claim was, in regards to his previously published reads.

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Post Post #852 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:39 am

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In post 851, Amrun wrote:I believe Llamarble's claim. I think if he were fakeclaiming, he would have done it with more cognizance about how strange the claim was, in regards to his previously published reads.
How much cognizance do you think Llamarble has had about anything up until this point? :igmeou:

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Post Post #853 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:40 am

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I don't mind and/or would join a Ghostlin wagon but would prefer a wagon on the people voting jason.
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Post Post #854 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:44 am

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In post 852, Vi wrote:How much cognizance do you think Llamarble has had about anything up until this point?


Fair point, and I'm not SLAMDUNKTOWN on Llamarble, but I'd prefer not to lynch him today.

Ghostlin is a much better lynch.
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Post Post #855 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:10 pm

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Can someone tell me why we aren't lynching Jason?
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Post Post #856 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:26 pm

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His wagon is full of scum and pushed with b.s.. But you would know that.
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Post Post #857 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:53 pm

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Day 2

Amrun ( 0 )
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(L - 8 )

Cogito Ergo Sum ( 0 )
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(L - 8 )

Debonair Danny DiPietro ( 0 )
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(L - 8 )

Ghostlin ( 4 )
Kublai Khan,
Llamarble,
Amrun,
Cogito Ergo Sum,
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glowball ( 0 )
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(L - 8 )

JasonT1981 ( 3 )
glowball,
Debonair Danny DiPietro,
xvart,
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(L - 5 )

Kublai Khan ( 0 )
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(L - 8 )

Llamarble ( 5 )
JasonT1981,
Vi,
VP Baltar,
Ghostlin,
Quilford,
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(L - 3 )

Quilford ( 0 )
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(L - 8 )

Sotty7 ( 0 )
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(L - 8 )

Untrod Tripod ( 0 )
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(L - 8 )

Vi ( 0 )
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(L - 8 )

VP Baltar ( 0 )
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(L - 8 )

xvart ( 0 )
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(L - 8 )

No Lynch ( 0 )

Not Voting ( 3 )
Untrod Tripod, Roxi, Sotty7,

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Post Post #859 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:03 pm

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In post 850, Llamarble wrote:We're not sure the third party is a killing role or not.
But yeah, VP being blocked on a night where there weren't as many kills as expected increases the odds he's scum.


Did Llamarble just claim Serial Killer?
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Post Post #860 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:04 pm

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VOTE: Llamarble
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Post Post #861 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:08 pm

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Glowball ISO seems to show her sitting on sidelines, not wanting to give opinions and cheering on a lynch

In post 375, glowball wrote:WHY ISN'T LEW LYNCHED?!?!?!?!

Come on guys. Just lynch him and be happy!


but wait..

In post 544, glowball wrote:So you want... reads? I have none worth sharing at this point. I'll let you know when I do.


no reads eh?

In post 731, glowball wrote: I want Jason lynched.



now we have reads, after pressure... not explaining any of them... and giving a BS reason as to why

In post 755, glowball wrote:Okay I am not very good at explaining how my brain works but I will try my best to at least give you some indication of where I am at.

Scum:
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Xvart

On my radar:
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I am never really good at explaining how I get reads on people, which is probably why I'm so bad at this game but there are my thoughts.


In post 811, glowball wrote:Mmkay reasons why my lynch shouldn't even be considered today:

Scratch that! There's really only one main reason, my lynch won't help you with anything at all. When I flip town you'll have just as little information to go off of as you do now.

It's pretty obvious that Jason should be lynched, since he's scum and it gives us information. Llam COULD be lynched solely based on the information we'd get.


Fails to give reasons why she should not be lynched, appeals to emotion, then again tunnels me

In post 813, glowball wrote:Actually I takke back my previous statement, if we aren't going to lynch scum (Jason) then lynching me is fine.


for someone with no reads, Glowball really is lookign me lyched....oh look below.

In post 855, glowball wrote:Can someone tell me why we aren't lynching Jason?


Glowball has done NO scum hunting, repeated failures to answer questions... refuses to give reads, then shouts Why isn't (X) lynched.

Glowball... reasons for my lynch please, a full, thought out case. Bullet-points would be good. No crying because you are scum... A full case now please!
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Post Post #862 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:09 pm

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In post 859, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 850, Llamarble wrote:We're not sure the third party is a killing role or not.
But yeah, VP being blocked on a night where there weren't as many kills as expected increases the odds he's scum.


Did Llamarble just claim Serial Killer?


As much as I believe a Llam lynch is good, I don't see how... it is more WIFOM... look only one kill, less than expected... VP was blocked so he must be scum.

Rubbish reasoning.
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Post Post #863 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:11 pm

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Actually right now I am more comfortable with a Glowball lynch than Llam.. at least he is trying to play the game. She is just sitting on sidelines screaming for a lynch of anyone... D1 and D2.

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Post Post #864 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:12 pm

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In post 859, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 850, Llamarble wrote:We're not sure the third party is a killing role or not.
But yeah, VP being blocked on a night where there weren't as many kills as expected increases the odds he's scum.


Did Llamarble just claim Serial Killer?


I don't get the reasoning here. Saying it's that 3rd part isn't a killing role and then pointing out VP was blocked....one of the things aren't necessarly like the others.

I also don't get why KK says 'serial killer' Llam here.
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Post Post #865 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:14 pm

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In post 850, Llamarble wrote:We're not sure the third party is a killing role or not.
But yeah, VP being blocked on a night where there weren't as many kills as expected increases the odds he's scum.


Why are we still discussing stuff like this, there is still no evedience there is 3rd party, is there? right now, scum is the focus. All this is distracting from scum hunting with the WIFOM rubbish about less kills, means VP = scum because he was blocked.

For all we know, there is only one killing faction/role. Only way to establish that info is over longer terms. D2, with only one night for evedience is not worth looking at now... IF in future days there are more than one kill, then yes.. this needs looked at. But now, all the speculation is just that.

Right now, I am looking for scum.
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Post Post #866 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:15 pm

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In post 865, jasonT1981 wrote:
In post 850, Llamarble wrote:We're not sure the third party is a killing role or not.
But yeah, VP being blocked on a night where there weren't as many kills as expected increases the odds he's scum.


Why are we still discussing stuff like this, there is still no evedience there is 3rd party, is there? right now, scum is the focus. All this is distracting from scum hunting with the WIFOM rubbish about less kills, means VP = scum because he was blocked.

For all we know, there is only one killing faction/role. Only way to establish that info is over longer terms. D2, with only one night for evedience is not worth looking at now... IF in future days there are more than one kill, then yes.. this needs looked at. But now, all the speculation is just that.

Right now, I am looking for scum.


..Then you're saying you don't believe the Census Taker's Census?
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Post Post #867 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:17 pm

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More likely is that he forgot.

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Post Post #868 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:23 pm

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In post 864, Ghostlin wrote:
In post 859, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 850, Llamarble wrote:We're not sure the third party is a killing role or not.
But yeah, VP being blocked on a night where there weren't as many kills as expected increases the odds he's scum.


Did Llamarble just claim Serial Killer?
I don't get the reasoning here. Saying it's that 3rd part isn't a killing role and then pointing out VP was blocked....one of the things aren't necessarly like the others.

I also don't get why KK says 'serial killer' Llam here.

If he's trying to argue that the third party isn't a killer, the how are the odds of VP Baltar being scum increased?

VP Baltar needs to actually weigh in on whether he knows if he was blocked or not to confirm if Llamarble is a tracker. If Llamarble is a tracker, then it's unlikely that he killed his tracking target. If VP Baltar wasn't roleblocked, then Llamarble didn't track xRECKONERx and instead is claiming he did in case a tracker (someone else) did track him targeting xRECKONERx.
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Post Post #869 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:24 pm

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In post 866, Ghostlin wrote:
In post 865, jasonT1981 wrote:
In post 850, Llamarble wrote:We're not sure the third party is a killing role or not.
But yeah, VP being blocked on a night where there weren't as many kills as expected increases the odds he's scum.


Why are we still discussing stuff like this, there is still no evedience there is 3rd party, is there? right now, scum is the focus. All this is distracting from scum hunting with the WIFOM rubbish about less kills, means VP = scum because he was blocked.

For all we know, there is only one killing faction/role. Only way to establish that info is over longer terms. D2, with only one night for evedience is not worth looking at now... IF in future days there are more than one kill, then yes.. this needs looked at. But now, all the speculation is just that.

Right now, I am looking for scum.


..Then you're saying you don't believe the Census Taker's Census?



Ah crap, yes sorry....
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Post Post #870 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:24 pm

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In post 863, jasonT1981 wrote:Actually right now I am more comfortable with a Glowball lynch than Llam.. at least he is trying to play the game. She is just sitting on sidelines screaming for a lynch of anyone... D1 and D2.

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Actually I don't want ANYONE lynched. I want YOU lynched. If that quote of nothingness on this page is a "case"... no I won't be making one of those. If I actually sit down and go through all of your posts to make a case it will be when I have time. No one pressured me for my reads, in fact a wagon hasn't even ever been formed against me. I don't like to share all of my thoughts because frankly I can't always explain them. There's a tone to your posts, there are your actions towards other players and vice versa. It's something that I think takes a lot of time to explain and I prefer to let the chips fall before I go all in.
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Post Post #871 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:28 pm

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OK, yes looking back I am wrong, I forgot Quilford took a census.

Still though, the VP was blocked, there was not as many kills as 'expected' therefor VP is scum... is just pure crazy.

though, LLam, how do you know there were less kills than expected to be? it is complete WIFOM and something I would expect from scum to parade out there.

I believe Glowball is scum for her cheerleading on lynches, and LLam is scum partly due to him trying to add confusion to the town.
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Post Post #872 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:30 pm

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In post 870, glowball wrote:
In post 863, jasonT1981 wrote:Actually right now I am more comfortable with a Glowball lynch than Llam.. at least he is trying to play the game. She is just sitting on sidelines screaming for a lynch of anyone... D1 and D2.

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Actually I don't want ANYONE lynched. I want YOU lynched.
If that quote of nothingness on this page is a "case"... no I won't be making one of those. If I actually sit down and go through all of your posts to make a case it will be when I have time. No one pressured me for my reads, in fact a wagon hasn't even ever been formed against me.
I don't like to share all of my thoughts because frankly I can't always explain them
. There's a tone to your posts, there are your actions towards other players and vice versa.
It's something that I think takes a lot of time to explain and I prefer to let the chips fall before I go all in.


bold red: in other words, fence sit and wait for a wagon to form, and jump on.
bold blue: Again, just shouting for a lynch without any reasoning to anything. You did the same for Lew on D1.
bold green: then you need to try harder. If you really want me lynched, you sure as hell better do some explaining and if you are not going to do that, then you are not going to get me lynched.
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Post Post #873 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:32 pm

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In post 872, jasonT1981 wrote:
In post 870, glowball wrote:
In post 863, jasonT1981 wrote:Actually right now I am more comfortable with a Glowball lynch than Llam.. at least he is trying to play the game. She is just sitting on sidelines screaming for a lynch of anyone... D1 and D2.

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Actually I don't want ANYONE lynched. I want YOU lynched.
If that quote of nothingness on this page is a "case"... no I won't be making one of those. If I actually sit down and go through all of your posts to make a case it will be when I have time. No one pressured me for my reads, in fact a wagon hasn't even ever been formed against me.
I don't like to share all of my thoughts because frankly I can't always explain them
. There's a tone to your posts, there are your actions towards other players and vice versa.
It's something that I think takes a lot of time to explain and I prefer to let the chips fall before I go all in.


bold red: in other words, fence sit and wait for a wagon to form, and jump on.
bold blue: Again, just shouting for a lynch without any reasoning to anything. You did the same for Lew on D1.
bold green: then you need to try harder. If you really want me lynched, you sure as hell better do some explaining and if you are not going to do that, then you are not going to get me lynched.


I'm not getting you lynched today whether I form a case or not.
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Post Post #874 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:39 pm

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KK wrote:If he's trying to argue that the third party isn't a killer, the how are the odds of VP Baltar being scum increased?

Third party being a killing role need merely be a possibility for the logic to work. The reasoning is sound; the conclusion just isn't nearly as strong as you guys are making it out to be.
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