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Post Post #250 (ISO) » Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:06 am

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Most of the above post is addressed to HH, not Jules.
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Post Post #251 (ISO) » Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:22 am

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HackerHuck wrote:So the cheer squad consists of me, Jules and Zindaras?

ShadowLurker - how do you know that Luna was just inactive and not lurking? The difference is intent and I cannot fathom how you would know Luna's intent.

Related Info, just for the record:

I just replaced Luna in another game that she had made 2 posts (I believe) in 11 pages, so her record would appear to indicate that she was more inactive than lurking.
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Post Post #252 (ISO) » Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:50 am

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Kelly Chen wrote:HackerHuck: Off the top of my head you're scummier than Jules and Zindaras. Though I would love to know what is "unsettling" for Zindaras that I voted you. You'd think I voted someone not in the game or something...
I'm suspicious of the person you replaced, and you hop in and vote someone I don't find scummy at all.

It reassures me in my thinking that I was right about both perfect and luna.
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Post Post #253 (ISO) » Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:29 am

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Kelly Chen wrote:Yep.

Was this obvious? I find it weird that Coron's response is that I shouldn't restrict myself to his cheerleaders, and nobody wants to argue that HackerHuck isn't a Coron cheerleader.

Jules, no, I am not sold on Coron being scum.
Do you really think I'm his cheerleader or are you provoking debate?

I found that cheerleader comment to be more along the lines of the typical Coron post "Your defence of Coron is noted" i.e. intended to elicit a reaction and not worth responding to.
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Post Post #254 (ISO) » Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:49 am

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Kelly Chen: I don't agree with the term cheerleaders... after all I haven't noticed them leading any cheers, but it was clear what group you were talking about, and to avoid confusion I adopted your terminology.
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Post Post #255 (ISO) » Mon Dec 11, 2006 12:57 pm

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Zindaras wrote:
ShadowLurker wrote:Next, I'm not lurking now, and neither was luna, she was just inactive. The very point that me and luna have different actions shows that there are different playstyles so I see no idea why you brought that up in the first place other than to subtly discredit me.

Vote: Zindaras
Luna's playstyle is comparable to bird's. You would act differently in that situation as well.

Kelly's and SL's actions are only furthering me in my beliefs that they're both scum. I find the HackerHuck vote unsettling, and SL is being overaggressive, in my eyes.
Sorry for trying to catch scum while the town has been enveloped in taking camps and cheerleading while Nai and Coron duke it out.
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Post Post #256 (ISO) » Mon Dec 11, 2006 12:57 pm

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HackerHuck wrote:So the cheer squad consists of me, Jules and Zindaras?

ShadowLurker - how do you know that Luna was just inactive and not lurking? The difference is intent and I cannot fathom how you would know Luna's intent.
By checking her posts?
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Post Post #257 (ISO) » Mon Dec 11, 2006 12:57 pm

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ShadowLurker wrote:
HackerHuck wrote:So the cheer squad consists of me, Jules and Zindaras?

ShadowLurker - how do you know that Luna was just inactive and not lurking? The difference is intent and I cannot fathom how you would know Luna's intent.
By checking her posts?
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Post Post #258 (ISO) » Mon Dec 11, 2006 12:59 pm

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Zindaras wrote:
ShadowLurker wrote:Next, I'm not lurking now, and neither was luna, she was just inactive. The very point that me and luna have different actions shows that there are different playstyles so I see no idea why you brought that up in the first place other than to subtly discredit me.

Vote: Zindaras
Luna's playstyle is comparable to bird's. You would act differently in that situation as well.
And how did you come to that conclusion?



Sorry: About the quad posting, edit them to 2 I guess if you want to mod? This will be my last post for now, I promise.
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Post Post #259 (ISO) » Mon Dec 11, 2006 2:53 pm

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HackerHuck goes out of his way to bat for Coron, but here and there makes sure we know he thinks Coron is scummy, he disagrees with Coron, he wouldn't say Coron is town. It doesn't look very natural to me.

I didn't like HH's exchange with Nai, where HH seemed to push the idea that Nai implies that Coron has special info. I didn't get that at all; it seemed clear to me that it was a rhetorical possibility: "If you don't know someone's town, don't defend them," not, "If you're defending them then you must know something." I find HH's page 6 posts absurd, the way this is twisted.
HH wrote:I still have doubts that Coron is town and that's why it's just an FOS, not a vote.
Huh? Does the scumminess of whatever Nai says depend on whether you think Coron is town or not?


Side note... Another reason not to defend other people is that it may keep them from needing to defend themselves.
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Post Post #260 (ISO) » Mon Dec 11, 2006 2:59 pm

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Stop lobbing them right over the plate and I'll stop wanting to hit homers.

I take it kelly doesn't we want me to respond to that question posed to HackerHuck.
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Post Post #261 (ISO) » Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:30 pm

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ShadowLurker wrote:Sorry for trying to catch scum while the town has been enveloped in taking camps and cheerleading while Nai and Coron duke it out.
I've been saying luna and perfect are scum all along, but they needed replacement, so I didn't vote them when I returned. Before the multitude of crashes, I, and others, did attack other players, but Nai and Coron simply picked the game up again quicker after the crashes.
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Post Post #262 (ISO) » Tue Dec 12, 2006 5:48 am

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Zindaras... Wth. Haven't you heard of newbs? How could you possibly get a read on perfect?
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Post Post #263 (ISO) » Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:11 am

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Kelly Chen wrote:Zindaras... Wth. Haven't you heard of newbs? How could you possibly get a read on perfect?
perfect62834 wrote:
Vote:Coron
for above mentioned reasons.
perfect62834 wrote:oops, I read something incorrectly.
unvote
I'm going to hold off my serious vote for now.
These two posts give me one hell of a scumfeeling. The first one is a blatant bandwagon vote which he's trying to put off as a normal vote, in the second one he's doing a blatant attempt to jump off the wagon without making too much fuss and without getting attacked for it, doing off the original vote as a joke vote, which it clearly wasn't.
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Post Post #264 (ISO) » Tue Dec 12, 2006 7:36 am

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Interesting how Nai no longer has anything to say...
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Post Post #265 (ISO) » Tue Dec 12, 2006 8:02 am

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Kelly Chen wrote:HackerHuck goes out of his way to bat for Coron, but here and there makes sure we know he thinks Coron is scummy, he disagrees with Coron, he wouldn't say Coron is town. It doesn't look very natural to me.

I didn't like HH's exchange with Nai, where HH seemed to push the idea that Nai implies that Coron has special info. I didn't get that at all; it seemed clear to me that it was a rhetorical possibility: "If you don't know someone's town, don't defend them," not, "If you're defending them then you must know something." I find HH's page 6 posts absurd, the way this is twisted.
HH wrote:I still have doubts that Coron is town and that's why it's just an FOS, not a vote.
Huh? Does the scumminess of whatever Nai says depend on whether you think Coron is town or not?
That was the second time that Nai mentioned Coron would only make certain statements if he knew something the rest of us didn't.

No, Coron's alignment has no impact on the scumminess of what Nai says, but it definitely impacts how I feel about Nai overall. The fact that I have my own doubts about Coron is part of why believe that Nai is more likely to be overeager town than scum just out to get Coron. I was hoping that my response would dissuade Nai from stretching the facts to push for his lynch, since it is scummy.
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Post Post #266 (ISO) » Tue Dec 12, 2006 9:13 am

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Unless you think it's likely that the Nai-Coron thing was a distancing tactic then every % chance Coron is scum is a % chance Nai *isn't*.
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Post Post #267 (ISO) » Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:06 am

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Jules wrote:Interesting how Nai no longer has anything to say...
It's been two days, thats hardly enough time to imply that someone has gone quiet.
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Post Post #268 (ISO) » Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:01 pm

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2 days is a long time when you've been one of the most vocal players, and you're targetting a player you're almost is scum. He has posted elsewhere

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Post Post #269 (ISO) » Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:06 pm

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you're missing a word there I think: "Almost ______ is scum?"
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Post Post #270 (ISO) » Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:08 pm

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So I am haha

The missing word is "certain"

It should read...

2 days is a long time when you've been one of the most vocal players, and you're targetting a player you're almost certain is scum
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Post Post #271 (ISO) » Tue Dec 12, 2006 3:57 pm

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I give Coron's answer a
B-
. HackerHuck's answer is ok.

My question was about scumminess, not likelihood of being scum. Whether or not that's what the question should have been.

Zindaras: I don't think perfect was saying the first vote was a joke.
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Post Post #272 (ISO) » Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:03 pm

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Scumminess=likelyhood of being scum.
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Post Post #273 (ISO) » Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:52 pm

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also
unvote, vote: Jules
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Post Post #274 (ISO) » Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:53 pm

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You don't disagree with what I said? then how do you explain you comment?

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