Open 11 - Pie C9 (Game over) - before 400

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joke FOS: Ernie, so what did you do to Bert?

and

Vote : Twito

to lessen the number of games he has to keep track of. :b

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...I guess it's time for some sort of discussion, eh?... right?

P.S. Patrick, How does a roleblocker lynch + failed nightkill = forced win for the town?

I will say this, if we lynch the mafia roleblocker today, and the remaining mafia member fails to kill a powerole night 1, there is a forced win for the town.

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ah, that makes more sense...

It's a lot of big "if"s but it is possible...

And yeah, with that cleared up I've got nothing to talk about... anyone?

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Are you scum?

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That drunken kangaroo looks like its ready to kill someone... -_-'

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Hey Twito... you ready to claim yet? I'll help you out... It's spelt "M..A...F...I...A"

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I'll talk with you Pat
Lets make a plan,
Could it involve lynching Twito?

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...yeah okay... Pat, I liked how you were thinking in our last game, eventhough we were on opposite sides. If you can think up some kind of idea to put into action in this game, I'm more than not willing to follow your lead.

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I'll

unvote, Vote: Nightfall

because his last post felt a bit insincere (I played crap both times we've played together ) . Though I feel pretty mean to vote for a reason like that but we simply have to get discussion going somehow.

LOL
Not crap, just targeted in the wrong direction. That's what I thought I'd help you with here.

*Whispers* Your looking in the wrong direction...

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<- Is a HE

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Since I'm lynch -1 does that equal claim?

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no.

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*Throws the hammer at Ernie*
Definately the wrong direction guys.

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I REALLY hope that isnt 4...

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How lazy can you guys get, look at Post 101, then Post 104. 2 frickin posts in the middle.

I thought Bird might have miss counted since ernie said he saw 4.

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if we were just random voting and it would be as likely to lynch town or scum based on read then town would lose all the games.

unvote

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I'm curious as though why you didn't ask Nightfall anything as he has been much more inactive than me.

You're the one who said you'd reread, that's why. I did it myself so I know it doesn't take long because of the dismal lack of content. I've already commented on Nightfall's failure to contribute. And noted the total lack of response. This game really doesn't need people looking for excuses not to post.

I am willing to contribute more, but honestly I am at a little loss for ideas.

I will ask one thing though. Ernie, if someone had hammered me, how would you have reacted? what if I was Town? What if I was Scum?

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Sorry Still here, was intending to post today but ended up fealing under the weather.
I'll address all wuestions / issues tommorrow.

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Sorry guys, a 13 hour work day kept me away yesterday.

I had some minor reservations about Nightfall before the whole Ernie thing started up (see post 82 for details). Reading through again, I still feel uneasy about him. The almost total lack of content is a problem, but in this particular game it hardly even stands out from everyone else. But I've been in a couple of games lately where a scum about to be lynched started saying "guys this is a terrible mistake if you lynch me it'll be down to lylo tomorrow and you don't want that..." - you know the kind of thing, where they completely avoid addressing any of the charges against them, and I just got that feel from a couple of Nightfall's posts.

I want to point out that I never made the arguement that lynching me "would be bad for the town" (although it would), and that my absence has been genuine. As for addressing charges placed against me, I'm not certain there really was anything substantial. Ripley random voted me. Patrick voted me because of a comment I made about trusting his decision making (which he overeacted/took the wrong way), and Ernie placed me one from lynch to see if I would get hammered.

Besides that stuff, the only reason I can think that I would be under the microscope is the fact that I haven't contributed that much game related content. It has been pointed out however that I am not the only one to really act this way. Truthfully I would find the one(s) who did the same thing, but posted in larger numbers to be the one(s) who are more more suspicious.

If there is any thing more specific any of you wish for me to address please post them, and I will answer.

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My thoughts :

ChannelDelibird (replacing Ernie) > Ernie seemed pretty scummy, Delibird seems townish. I'm not really sure yet where the two opinions meet.

Twito > This could be based on the game itself, but although his playstyle is as flashy as usual he seems to be grasping at a bit more straws than usual.

Fircoal > I usually find him scummy, and I am getting that from somewhere in this game too.

Patrick > I would say pro town, but I'm a little nervous about how he reacted to my comments earlier on.

ShadowLurker > I can't make enough of a call on him yet, but I'm leaning more towards protown.

Ripley > Ripley seems to be one of the more protown players.

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:Post comming tommorrow:

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I will be the first to admit that I haven't contributed much at all to this game.
My lack of posts/content however have been due to a lack of time available to make posts.
Fircoal on the other hand seems to have enough time to make posts, and believably enough time to make them semi meaningful, however he has chosen to more lurk in plain site, Right now he is at the top of my list.

FOS: Fircoal

Vote will be placed if there is no change closer to the deadline.

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1) I dont think Twito has played diferently
2) I stll dont get the dice...

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Vote : Fircoal

So that someone else closer to the deadline can hammer if they need to.

That's lynch -1

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Theory ->

IF

we did have a succesful doc protect, we might also have a cop investigation with a result. Would a mass claim help?
We could potentially semi clear 4 out of the 6th of us that way.

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Thinking out loud.

Cop claims,
We see if someone counter claims
Caop claims his result.
Doc, if he protected somone other than the two above claims his role.
If no one counter claims doc claims who he protected.
We see if scum squirm.

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So should we vote on whether or not the cop should claim?

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You say "If we mislynch today", and talk of the cop being blocked tonight unless we lynch scum, but as far as I can see we cannot win if we mislynch today. It's game over. It would go to night as a formality only. The scum would block or kill the doc and that ends the game.

I'll go ahead and state that if the town mislynches today, I won't even go to night as the scum will have fufilled their win condition due to it being impossible for them to not win.

What? Did I miss something? We could misslynch today, have a night kill, and still wake up in the morning with 3 town and 2 scum could we not? That's not a win for scum...

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Twito> Is that a cop claim from you then?

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*groan*
There are a few people I'd like to hear claims from before I give mine, but if I have to go first I will.

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I'd like CDB, and Skruffs to go before me if at all possible...

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I will go with it. Still I'd rather have at least one of Twito or CDB, preferably CDB claiming above me.

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I vote for no response

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Are we waiting on me? or will the order still possibly change?

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Cop
Holding off on claiming Target.

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Im not sure he's comming back. I'm in another game with him that we are close to lynching him, and he hasn't posted in quite a while there either.

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?
Twito already claimed...
Or am I missunderstanding you?....
I cant stand this board skin......AH!

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I want to hear Twito's target.

P.S. NO ONE VOTE UNTIL I GIVE THE ALL CLEAR.

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Question. If we are to lynch the "normal" scum player, but leave the rollblocker alive, during the night will he be able to Rollblock AnD make a nightkill? 2 actions 1 night?

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That was for bird btw.

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Ripley wait.

I want Twito to post his target, his reason, and his current thoughts.

I'd like CDB if he drops by to post his thoughts.

Then I will speak again...

So it shall be

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CDB too?

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...

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I'm guessing I should wait to make the case for me/Twito

You have a case? Shoot...

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Sorry for putting this off so long guys, but I thought we needed more info.

Ripley is innocent
Therefore Pat is innocent
Therefore Fonz (Twito) is scum

A big reason I held off this long is because of the chances that twitos partner and not him is the role blocker. If that's the case then I'll likely be dead tommorrow, and you guys will have to use your best judgement between CDB and Skruffs.

If Twito/Fonz is the role blocker though, the doc can protect me tonight, and I investigate CDB or Skruffs and we come back next morning and win the game.

With that,

Vote: Fonz(Twito)

(P.S. Fonz, sorry about taking up your time for this, I was really hoping that Twito would have come back and said something. I was going to tell you there wasn't a need to stay earlier but then you said you had a case, and so I thought for benefit of the town it was worth listening to)

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GG guys ;0