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Post Post #800 (ISO) » Mon Mar 12, 2007 5:11 pm

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Kelly Chen wrote:klajwoefjkl

Who are we still waiting on. Nightfall is going to hand us a scum here, let's get excited about this.

SL got an innocent on MM but MM is his #2 suspect still. MM notices this but categorizes SL as town. Weird.

unvote, vote: Shadowlurker
Hey I was gonna touch on that :P
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Post Post #801 (ISO) » Mon Mar 12, 2007 6:28 pm

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GreenLiquid wrote:Why has SL yet to explain why he didn't use his artifact last night?
... I used the eye of the diviner ...



And the truth of me putting MM second is not any mistype or whatever, I will admit that I was not paying too much attention in that post and haven't been in all of my games lately. *shrug* Make of it what you will.

Oh and I obviously think MM is pretty much protown although he would've been my 2nd scummiest canindate today ignoring the investigation.
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Post Post #802 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:46 pm

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Post Post #803 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:58 pm

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New-Page Vote Count


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ShadowLurker

Nai
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Not voting
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Apeiron, Bogre, GreenLiquid,
Machiavellian-Mafia
, Nai, Nightfall, Zindaras


6 to lynch
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Post Post #804 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2007 3:46 pm

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Hmm both Norinel and MeMe put M-M in bold o_O
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Post Post #805 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2007 3:57 pm

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Hrm. I thought it was because he was being prodded, but apparently not. I wonder why...

My guess is that he has some sort of artifact that does something to himself (i.e. double votes) that doesn't require him going outside. Remember, my sandstorm doesn't stop you from using anything that doesn't require leaving the tent.
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Post Post #806 (ISO) » Wed Mar 14, 2007 5:03 pm

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Apeiron, and MM are the only living players who have yet to answer my "starting item" question, but I figure it will be best to go on before people get annoyed and strt dropping out like flies....

Okay, so here goes....
As I'm sure almost all of you remember, Nai and Coron had a huge arguement earlier in this game. This arguement all began because of one post. My very first post.
Nightfall wrote:
Random FOS : Nai
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Random Vote : Coron
Coron thought I was FOS'ing Nai (my so called scum buddy) to distance myself from him for later in the game. This however was not the case.

I started this game with an artifact. My artifact was an ancient deck of cards.
I was told that I did not have any control over them though, and that they would do what they'd like.

So, pre game night 1 these cards decided to shuffle, and reveal a card to me.
I was told that the card shown was an old expression for the term "no".
Not knowing what exactly I was being told, I looked at the players list.
That was when I say nai. nai = no? Not sure as to what it ment I decided to FOS
Nai in order to leave a little breadcrum for later. This is also the reason that I asked Nai a few times if he had any type of post restiction, or any type of forced action. He voted Coron pretty quickly after he attacked me so I thought that my item might have made him have to vote those who voted me? Anyways, the game went on and Jules claimed the "ear of the diviner". I didnt make much of it at the time but I believed his claim. By this point I had become of the mindset that my item had something to do with Nai, but I suddenly recalled something from my pm. Was there more to my item? I checked my PM and I had infact over looked something. The deck of cards was being held together by something. That something was "The Hands of the Diviner".

So this leads me to believe a few things,
1) I would think the ear would most likely start with a town member, which would make Jules'/jules' role likely protown.

2) If Jules is town then MM/Stewie is not mafia, and therefore also town.

3) Shadow claims to have an item with part of the title being "of the diviner", yet no one has yet to claim having a record of this item.

4) I believe Shadow as scum would create the idea that this item existed for three reasons. A> To make it appear that he has a way of finding scum while only revealing MM's alignment (someone who quite possibly is already cleared by the use of another item) B> Drawing possible doc protection away from people who really need it. C> Claiming to have used a diferent item, gives him an excuse for not using the ear.

5) If we were to believe that Shadow's claimed artifact is real, that would mean that we would likely have a total of 3 items "of the diviner". 2 of these items are directly linked to each other. And together these two act like a super cop item. To have a 3rd "of the diviner" item, and another cop one at that, seems a little repetitive and out of place.

6) Shadow claimed to have investigated MM last night because he "forgot" that Jules asked the ears about him night one. I find this rather unlikely, Possible but unlikely. Not meaning to suckup but, I dont think it would be something that Shadow would overlook.

7)If Shadow did investigate MM like he stated last night, why would he so soon after list MM as his 2nd top suspect? It makes no sense. I really cant see Shadow "forgeting" his own investigation result, and doing so so soon after he made it.

8) After being confronted with the info in point 7 above, Shadow responds with:
ShadowLurker wrote: Oh and I obviously think MM is pretty much protown although he would've been my 2nd scummiest canindate today ignoring the investigation.
Pretty much protown? What kind of investigation result did you get? MM = Somewhat innocent? And if you did get an innocent result on him, why would we care to hear that he would have been the "2nd scummiest canindate of the day" if we were to ignore your investigation? So you found out he was town, but you still want to point fingers at him?

Vote: Shadow


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(P.S. I was one of the people that was voiceing his opinion that Nai should have used his item last night. This was because, scum knew where the ear was since after Jules claimed Shadow confirmed he recieved it; also I thought it would at least give us one more night for one more question for the ears.)
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Post Post #807 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2007 4:07 am

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Nightfall, are you saying you believe Shadowlurker sent a nightmove about a nonexistent item to the wrong person? In that case it seems even more unlikely to me that the mod would resolve this by revealing the information in the PM; that could easily be exploited exactly in order to fake claim something.
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Post Post #808 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:51 am

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Crap. To be honest I thought the pm was about the ear.

That being said though, if it is a nonexistent item I dont think it would be any less likely that the mod would show the pm to everyone.

it is enough for me to
unvote
for now though, and just
FOS: Shadow
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Post Post #809 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2007 1:24 pm

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I'm wondering why you would choose the course of action to LYNCH a potential cop role rather than just let it be passed in the night.
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Post Post #810 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2007 1:34 pm

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Well, if the town decided to let you go only on that reasoning, you'd (as scum) just refuse to pass it.
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Post Post #811 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:28 pm

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I'm pretty sure I had already said it, I'll say it again: I did not start with an "of the diviner" artifact.

I don't think it's very strange at all that there can be 3 "of the diviner" artifacts, especially since those 3 are claimed to be the three primary senses. Plus I think those 3 artifacts could belong to town or scum because they could all be passed.

And I wouldn't be surprised about SL being confused about me since he was confused enough to send PM to wrong person.
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Post Post #812 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2007 3:09 pm

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I have a question, which is rather important. If we have a claimed member (me, Apeiron) who has already claimed what they have done in the past, should we be claiming what artifacts we have recieved since our claim, and what we have done with them?

This one doesn't apply to me today, since I didn't recieve anything, but I think it's something important to note.
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Post Post #813 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2007 4:00 pm

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I do not have a artifact at the moment, and the guy I replaced passed the original one on to someone who is still alive.

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Post Post #814 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2007 4:03 pm

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Kelly Chen wrote:Well, if the town decided to let you go only on that reasoning, you'd (as scum) just refuse to pass it.
As the town would obviously let me slide by claiming a cop artifact and not demonstrating it every single night.
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Post Post #815 (ISO) » Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:21 am

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Nai wrote:I have a question, which is rather important. If we have a claimed member (me, Apeiron) who has already claimed what they have done in the past, should we be claiming what artifacts we have recieved since our claim, and what we have done with them?
I think we should, unless you currently have an item that seems like something scum would want to take out. Then wait until you've passed the item on. But obviously don't then reveal who you passed it to.
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Post Post #816 (ISO) » Sat Mar 17, 2007 6:26 pm

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Hmm. Maybe... That seems a little less useful for Town to know, especially if you die soon after.
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Post Post #817 (ISO) » Sat Mar 17, 2007 8:13 pm

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Nightson where is the spectacular insight you promised, or was that it?
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Post Post #818 (ISO) » Sun Mar 18, 2007 9:17 am

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Post Post #819 (ISO) » Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:41 pm

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Me too.
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Post Post #820 (ISO) » Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:02 pm

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I never left :P

So what did the "of the Diviner" stuff go to?
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Post Post #821 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:51 am

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I have the legs of the diviner. Each weighs 12 pounds and can be passed separately. There is a support pole missing in my tent, and every night I can use one of the legs to prop it up. I use this ability by commanding the foot of that leg.

Last night I propped up my tent using the left leg.
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Post Post #822 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:35 am

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You are joking, right?

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Post Post #823 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:10 am

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Possibly. Let us discuss the implications.
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Post Post #824 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:24 am

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WTF, are you lying or are you lying?

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