Mafia 62: Suspicion in Sicily - Game over!

[Ancalagon]

Those posts weren't necessarily trying to draw attention to someone; he just stated his opinion. He wasn't talking in

BOLD AND ALL CAPS

or anything like that. I do agree that his voting patterns are odd, but that doesn't necessarily mean he is scum. A first or second vote doesn't really mean that much.

[Mr. Flay]

Eleventh Vote Count of Day One:

Toaster Strudel - 4 (Ancalagon, ~N9V~, Rand Althor, scotmany12)
kinkster - 4 (Primate, VitaminR, Raffles, Phoebus)
Raffles - 3 (Jalyn, Toaster Strudel, Dragon Phoenix)
Dragon Phoenix - 2 (hollywoody1221, AlexPaoletti)
Panzerjager - 1 (Cubsfan4ever)
hollywoody1221 - 1 (Yosarian2)
Phoebus - 1 (Panzerjager)

Not voting - 2 (spectrumvoid, kinkster)

With eighteen alive, it will take ten votes to lynch.

However posting has dropped off

dramatically

this week, so you now have a

deadline of midnight on March 28th (server time)

. That is after the return of both Raffles and DP, and I will be more aggressive about prodding people in the coming week.

My deadline rules are a

little

different than normal. At deadline, only six votes will be required to lynch,

but that must be at least 50% of the votes being cast

. At present, no one is eligible for a deadline lynch, but even if one person gets to six, there are still 16 votes cast total, so No Lynch. If someone gets to eight and there are still 16 votes cast in total, that would be a deadline lynch. I will post regularly if anyone is under threat of a deadline lynch at any time. Any questions, let me know. I consider this to be the most fair way to extract a forced lynch. You are of course still welcome to lynch normally; a

serious

uptick in posting may get you an extension/retraction of the deadline, but it will have to be sustained and impressive.

C'mon, the mafia won't lynch itself (well, probably)!

[scotmany12]

My vote remains on TS for now. I have to reread sometime, but until then, I am confident with where my vote is.

[Yosarian2]

Ahh, but if you're trying to draw attention to someone, then you find them suspicious, don't you?

There's also a valid concept called "pressure voting", where you vote someone if you want to post, or vote, or something like that. You don't necessaraly want them lynched, but you want them to start doing something that will help the town, or stop doing something that will hurt the town, and you're using your vote to pressure them in that direction. I think that can be a valid pro-town stratagy.

However, like I mentioned before, it makes me a bit nervous if that's ALL someone is doing.

[hollywoody1221]

Is this one of your reasons for FoS-ing DP, earlier, as it seems like he hasn't added much. At least not much that I liked.

[Cubsfan4ever]

Unvote: Panzerjager

Vote: ToasterStrudel

her earlier claims as detailed by many others strike me as odd, I'm not buying that group suggested by hollywoody and see this as a better lead

[Ancalagon]

I still don't see the real evidence for DP, but I'd like to hear from Yos as to why his vote is on hollywoody. To me it seems to be a bad town logic than scumlogic.

[Yosarian2]

Is this one of your reasons for FoS-ing DP, earlier, as it seems like he hasn't added much. At least not much that I liked.

Yeah, I'd like him to start doing a little more analysis about who he actually thinks is scum; like I said, I'm in favor of lurker hunting and stuff, it's a quite useful tactic for a pro-town person to do, but if that's all a person does it becomes completly impossible to read them.

[Yosarian2]

I still don't see the real evidence for DP, but I'd like to hear from Yos as to why his vote is on hollywoody. To me it seems to be a bad town logic than scumlogic.

I first voted for him because the way he behaved, with the problems in his logic and OMGUS-like timing of some of his attacks, just made me think that he looked more like a scum trying to cobble together an attack rather then like a townie who's honestly looking for scum.

That feeling isn't as strong now as it was when I first voted him, his recent posts have been making somewhat more sense, but eh, I don't really see anyone else with a better case against them at the moment and some of hollywoody's posts still seem a bit off to me.

[scotmany12]

I was going to reread tonight, but I'm pretty busy so I'm going to do a reread sometime tomorrow.

[Ancalagon]

I still think TS is the way to go.

[Phoebus]

I'm here and happy with my vote.

[scotmany12]

Didn't get to reread today, so much crap came up. Hopefully I will be able to reread tomorrow. Until then, my vote stays on TS.

[hollywoody1221]

I'd like to ask for the views of those who have seemingly 'disappeared' from the game
1) N9V
2) Rand Althor
3) Scotmany (obviously when he gets time, as he has said a number of times)
4) Spectrum Void (when he becomes unsick)
5) DP (business trip)
6) Cubsfan4ever

Simply because I haven't heard their opinions recently, we need an 'uptick' in voting, and I don't resort to voting to get someone to talk.

[Cubsfan4ever]

I just gave my opinion/vote.

[PJ.]

Hollywoody, SV is a she for the record.

Cubs we want more from you.

This post screams scum to me ontop of your already previous scuminess.

Unvote, FoS:CubsFan

[hollywoody1221]

Cubsfan, I overlooked your post, and I couldn't remember any recent activity. My mistake. And sorry about the SV she thing, had nothing to base it on. I just assumed that most people playing mafia were guys. Probably a bit chauvinist of me, but I can't defend that.

[Rand Althor]

I still like my vote on TS.

[Raffles]

I'm back and still alive, but there is helluva lot to read on page 10, might take me rest of the day.

[Raffles]

Okay, it might take me mere half an hour. Whatever.

Anyway, I've read from page 10 onwards in one go. Hollywoody, from the reasons you gave up (I think page 11), I can't place my vote on DP. I don't find the way he acted at all suspicious, even with your summary. I see voting for non-voter or someone who is not active as about harmful as eating my toast right now - i.e. it will never get to a kill.

However, I really didn't like this.

If we lynch Dragon Phoenix today, which would prove that I was at least partly right, then we have moved forward a great deal. We would be able to follow the tried and true patterns of the game, and make our analysis from there, if only we cut and polish this theorem I set out among you.

What if you are wrong? What if it really

was

just a normal stone?

[VitaminR]

I do actually agree with the case against DP. DP has been fairly jumpy and low on content, which I haven't seen from him much.

FOS: Dragon Phoenix

I still don't like a Toaster Strudel wagon.

I also still like my kinkster vote. I would also be willing to switch to Cubsfan.

[PJ.]

To make VitaminR's statement apply to me, "I still like my phoebus vote. I would also be willing to switch to Cubsfan" I don't necessarily disagree with the Toaster Strudel wagon but we have better options at the moment. I enjoy the awkward timing oif Cubsfan's Vote on TS. Conveintly after all conversation has been torn off that wagon; It could be an attempt to revitalize the wagon on TS. As a matter of fact, I have followed my logic to where the quot no longer makes any sense.

Unvote, Vote: Cubsfan

[Cubsfan4ever]

you're so damn cocky

[kinkster]

ok been back and reread the whole thread my suspicions still lie where they did id be very surprised if one of dp/phoebus wasnt scum if in fact both of them arnt

for now

vote cubsfan4ever

im not convinced on the ts bandwagon and cubs 5th vote on her isnt convincing me at the moment

[AlexPaoletti]

Just got prodded! Sorry I haven't been posting. I've been paying attention but haven't had anything to say. From what I've seen, I think a vote for cubsfan or toasterstrudel will turn out scum. I may have been a little quick to jump to DP, though there's definitely a good argument against him. I'm going to

Unvote: Dragon Phoenix | Vote: Toaster Strudel