Mini 380: Artifacts- Game over

Apeiron · Post Post #1025 (ISO) » Sun May 13, 2007 1:20 pm

I do not think we are there, and I do not think claims mean much in this theme.

Zindaras · Post Post #1026 (ISO) » Sun May 13, 2007 10:20 pm

Nai wrote:I've already stated, REPEATEDLY, that the item would have no affect on me. That's the point of the entire argument. I was saying that Coron had the chance to use it on me, a person he's stated is scum the entire game, and didn't use it.

Which is the correct move.

I think Apeiron's eagerness is suspicious.

Mod

, where's GreenLiquid? Could you prod him?

GreenLiquid is the only one who hasn't claimed yet. I want him to claim. As soon as possible. Then I'll see about who I want to lynch (though I have a pretty good idea).

Apeiron · Post Post #1027 (ISO) » Mon May 14, 2007 2:37 am

I know I am eager and I admit I want to get on with it. This game has taken so long. I'm not used to nights lasting three weeks. Most games I play have nights lasting 12 hours max, and over 100 posts for a real life day.

Nai · Post Post #1028 (ISO) » Mon May 14, 2007 3:07 pm

You don't think we're at Lynch or Lose? It can be assumed we have two mafia left (since 3 would mean we'd lose already), there's a chance of two nightkills again tonight, and if we don't lynch correctly today, even without the two NKs, we LOSE tomorrow.

How, exactly, do you not think this is the truth? And why should your eagerness mean the town loses?

Apeiron · Post Post #1029 (ISO) » Tue May 15, 2007 12:18 am

If there's two NK's, that can be two groups - with a bit of luck taking each other out

If you got any better idea than taking chances, enlighten me.

Nai · Post Post #1030 (ISO) » Tue May 15, 2007 12:19 am

Thinking, discussing things, trying to win, not acting as scummy as you are now...

Norinel · Post Post #1031 (ISO) » Tue May 15, 2007 2:53 pm

Prodding GreenLiquid one more time; he's responded to prods in the past, but not actually posted.

Zindaras · Post Post #1032 (ISO) » Tue May 15, 2007 7:33 pm

Please forcibly replace GL if he picks up his prod but doesn't post.

ShadowLurker · Post Post #1033 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2007 9:05 am

Unvote

GL is intentionally lurking and that sends up red flags for me.

Apeiron · Post Post #1034 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2007 1:19 pm

Or he's really gone. Activity is low either way. I hope he'll soon be replaced, or returns.

Nai · Post Post #1035 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2007 7:19 pm

The mod already said that GL has been picking up the prods, responding, but not posting. That means he's lurking.

Norinel · Post Post #1036 (ISO) » Fri May 18, 2007 3:16 pm

This prod he hasn't, though, so I'll be replacing shortly.

Norinel · Post Post #1037 (ISO) » Sat May 19, 2007 5:05 pm

DogMom replaces GreenLiquid.

DogMom · Post Post #1038 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2007 10:32 am

<waving>
Um, hi, everybody; looks like I've got a LOT to catch up on...I'll be reading and trying to come up with something. Just wanted to let you know that I'm here and I'll do my best to post something contenty as soon as I can.

Apeiron · Post Post #1039 (ISO) » Mon May 21, 2007 2:29 am

So, are you Town or Scum?

DogMom · Post Post #1040 (ISO) » Mon May 21, 2007 6:34 am

Why yes, yes I am. One or the other.

Apeiron · Post Post #1041 (ISO) » Mon May 21, 2007 7:32 am

Well if you're scum, just say so and we'll lynch you and save you the trouble of reading everything.

DogMom · Post Post #1042 (ISO) » Mon May 21, 2007 7:34 am

<pant> <pant> <pant>

OK, I'm finally caught up.
Dealing with stuff kindasorta in reverse post order. Sorta.

I think I can solve the problem of the M-M death last night.
I'm town (well, duh, what'd you expect me to say?)
GreenLiquid (my predecessor) started with a glass bottle of poison gas. It would read to other people as a bottle of vapor and no one else knew what it did. If opened, it would kill the person who opened it. It could be passed along, and was passed to Stewie (M-M's predecessor) on Night 1. I was told that on the death of the holder, I should get the bottle back. No indication if that was "after use" or "if the person is NKed before using". However, the stuff's not magical poison gas, so I'm assuming it's not auto-replenishing, either.
So,

if

that's the "empty glass bottle" found with M-M (which seems logical), then I'm guessing it's a one-shot kill, and we don't have to worry about scum getting it. If I get it back, though, with this reveal I've shot the possibility of offing a scum at night with it by passing it along to a scum and them (hopefully) opening it. However, since we're in LYLO, and there's no way to force someone to open the thing, and I'd rather not take the chance of having another townie die anyway, I figure it's best out in the open.

More stuff to follow...

DogMom · Post Post #1043 (ISO) » Mon May 21, 2007 7:35 am

Apeiron wrote:Well if you're scum, just say so and we'll lynch you and save you the trouble of reading everything.

Too late. I'm all caught up on the first read-through. Hah.

'Sides, I'm town.

Zindaras · Post Post #1044 (ISO) » Mon May 21, 2007 7:49 am

*grins*

My theory has turned out to be correct.

Doggy, how about giving your opinions?

DogMom · Post Post #1045 (ISO) » Mon May 21, 2007 7:51 am

OK, some questions.
1)

Why

is Apeiron (Jules' replacement) so town again? Honestly, he was really high on several peoples' suspect lists and then all of a sudden, because of an Ear Claim, he's innocent? Is it not possible that scum got that Ear? It's dang near useless without the Hands.

2) I've seen Coron play this way in another game (that I mostly read; joined the last 2 days). I don't see the

playstyle

as a scumtell, per se.

3) Nightfall's playstyle doesn't seem that scummy to me. Of course, this is coming straight from a "Normal" game where he played the same way and we lynched Nightfall-townie.

One of Kelly's posts was interesting, to me - an entire "trust list" from our only confirmed scum.

She said that Coron, GreenLiquid (Me) and Zindaras were "don't trust", "really don't trust, let's get him" and "scum or at least highly useless".

Her ambivalents are
Nightfall, Nai* and Shadowlurker

Very likely town:
M-M and Apeiron

*Nai is listed as "still tend to think town, but I think it is quite obvious that scum could have his artifact; it rings alarm bells for me if Nai can't admit that".

All three of her "don't trusts" have survived so far
2 of her ambivalents (Nai, SL) have survived
and Apeiron, the "very likely town" has survived.

I have no idea what to make of that, by the way. I just thought it was interesting.

Apeiron · Post Post #1046 (ISO) » Mon May 21, 2007 8:38 am

Not because of the ear claim, but because of the way the ear was used.

ShadowLurker · Post Post #1047 (ISO) » Mon May 21, 2007 9:09 am

I could easily see scum passing a Cop Artifact. Anyway, I'm almost sure our two scum are in the group of {DogMom, Apeiron, Nai}

DogMom · Post Post #1048 (ISO) » Mon May 21, 2007 9:39 am

Apeiron wrote:Not because of the ear claim, but because of the way the ear was used.

? He says he asked it a yes/no question. Or is it the specific question he says he asked, or is it because it was passed on to SL, or what?

DogMom · Post Post #1049 (ISO) » Mon May 21, 2007 9:47 am

ShadowLurker wrote:
Apeiron wrote:Shadowlurker - What do you mean by "tried to pass it on"? Did you get it back, or is it lost as well?
Just acknowledging that this has been noted.

And that means...what? What does "tried to pass it on" mean?

And, why am I on your scumlist - is it for GL's lurkiness? I can't answer for that, obviously. I'm trying to do the best I can with what I have. If you have anything specific for me to address, other than GL's lurkiness / non-posting, I'll do so.