Mini 1622: (Hilariously) Unbalanced Mafia [-Over-]

Doyouthinkhesaurus · Post Post #525 (ISO) » Sat Nov 15, 2014 4:55 pm

@ProHawk: Yet you have nothing except your "anyone who setup specs at all is scum" logic. You literally said I'm the first person who spec'd that you found scummy. So why did you wait until now to vote me? I've talked about the setup before.
You're avoiding OMGUS accusations.

@istott: Just have anyone with a kill ability not use it and we'll know by tomorrow. It's pretty simple.

istott · Post Post #526 (ISO) » Sat Nov 15, 2014 5:05 pm

In post 525, Doyouthinkhesaurus wrote:@ProHawk: Yet you have nothing except your "anyone who setup specs at all is scum" logic. You literally said I'm the first person who spec'd that you found scummy. So why did you wait until now to vote me? I've talked about the setup before.
You're avoiding OMGUS accusations.

@istott: Just have anyone with a kill ability not use it and we'll know by tomorrow. It's pretty simple.

Not necessarily. I once hosted a game (I host a lot of IRL, within a tight group of friends) where there were 5 or 7 players (can't remember). I decided to play a prank on them where there was no mafia. I would RNG kill a player each night, and the town would win if any of them speculated that there was no mafia. They all greatly enjoyed it (especially when they died and found out), and even though in forum mafia it would be considered bastard, this has been warned to be a bastard game.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #527 (ISO) » Sat Nov 15, 2014 5:15 pm

istott is town.

istott · Post Post #528 (ISO) » Sat Nov 15, 2014 5:29 pm

I know.

EddieFenix · Post Post #529 (ISO) » Sat Nov 15, 2014 6:38 pm

In post 504, pirate mollie wrote:I feel like metal is lying.

and I am not sure what to do with dgb's single focus on eddie w/o a "DIE SCUM DIE!!!" post and her readily believing that metal is telling the truth in the first place when metal is known for gambiting.

but what I find really strange is that istott picked up on metal being a "cop" and then metal claims cop and then says he didn't crumb.

like am I the only 1 who finds that whole exchange weird?

In post 503, shos wrote:
In post 500, Metal Sonic wrote:
In post 495, shos wrote:not getting this, again,
An IC is not unlynchable;
why did you not crumb?
where is it stated that it was bullshit?
and again, why is it bullshit? your opinion is precisely the same as every other guy.

If I crumb then it defeats the whole purpose of playing dumb on purpose to NOT get NKed genius
eh...no it's not

because a crumb should be something that only you know about until you talk about it. like crumbing, say, "Can I get a doublevote, mod?" "Oopsie doopsie!" "Pshhhh bla bla" and then say 'look at the first letters of these three first posts in game'; then, you can play goofy as much as you want.

In post 502, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 497, EddieFenix wrote:Nevermind on that, Sonic is scum.

Unvote
Vote Sonic Boom

That cop claim is bullocks to the HIGHEST extent.

SCUM DETECTED

if sonic is town cop, then, YES.

In post 521, Doyouthinkhesaurus wrote:Did ProHawk just vote me the moment it would no longer be perceived as an OMGUS?

Are you kidding me?

If I was the first scummy one that stuck out, you've made absolutely 0 indication of that. You also have no reasons that I'm scummy other than saying it's pretty reasonable to assume that there's probably a cop and that Sonic's telling the truth if he's not CC'd.

Sonic, in your role PM, what does it say exactly as far as your cop ability goes? DGB can keep the "DIE SCUM DIE!!" tunnel with me up, I'm going to ignore the player because they are derp-tastically wrong. I was giving Sonic Boom the benefit of the doubt since it was a hydra. I was reading the Titus head as the town head because they were calm, cool, and collected in their few postings. Now sonic has jumped off the deep end and taken my null read for him and fully put it in the read. So I need Sonic to answer the question asap. I do not agree with Prohawk's line of logic of

In post 520, ProHawk wrote:Hi guys, the name of this game is Hilariously.... HILARIOUSLY... UNBALANCED Mafia. Anyone trying to use balance to solve this game is scum.

So, here we go with THIS now.

Bulbazak · Post Post #530 (ISO) » Sat Nov 15, 2014 7:08 pm

In post 478, Sonic Boom wrote:
In post 443, pirate mollie wrote:VOTE: sonic boom

In post 445, DrippingGoofball wrote:OH, we're having a Sonic Boom wagon? Sure!

VOTE: Sonic Boom

After I get NK'd because I'm the only one correctly suspecting EddieFenix, don't forget to lynch him.

these arent scum?

No. Voting you is not scummy.

In post 479, Sonic Boom wrote:
In post 476, Bulbazak wrote:Guille might be, but I find that too easy.

"too easy"?

maybe i'm too easy

Guille's entrance would be too obvious for scum, and given his join date, it would definitely be something scum-Guille would avoid. There was also the mass movement onto Guille after that, which indicates a likely scum driven wagon. So yeah, the Guille wagon is far too easy. As for you, I don't think your wagon is too easy at all. You were voted due to abnormal behavior, and even now, it is your behavior driving the leftovers of the wagon. Scum would not still be voting you and would be avoiding your wagon like the plague.

In post 481, pirate mollie wrote:
why couldn't dino and voided both be scum?

They could be. I just had Ika and Eddie as most likely. I'm actually taking my townreads and working backwards towards an initial form of PoE.

In post 481, pirate mollie wrote:
I feel like dgb and I are giving each other space and I am not sure what this means.

Do you two have a history of tunneling each other?

In post 482, shos wrote:
Naz, though, seems like scum. putting a clamed cop at L-1 on D1 after a miller claim from another slot? meh.

Seems a little obvious coming from that hydra. You don't think that it might be that they don't trust that claim at all?

In post 482, shos wrote:
I am not sure if I was voting sonic too so

unvote Sonic

just in case.

In post 504, pirate mollie wrote:
but what I find really strange is that istott picked up on metal being a "cop" and then metal claims cop and then says he didn't crumb.

like am I the only 1 who finds that whole exchange weird?

When did this happen?

Getting a scummy vibe from Dino's #513.

In post 520, ProHawk wrote:Hi guys, the name of this game is Hilariously.... HILARIOUSLY... UNBALANCED Mafia. Anyone trying to use balance to solve this game is scum.

VOTE: Dinosaurus

I think he was the first one? Or maybe was just the first scummy one who stuck out to me.

Why is thinking about balance scummy?

In post 524, istott wrote:Wait guys, what if there's no scum? That would definitely be unbalanced.
Seriously.

mastin: is there definitely a scum team? If there wasn't, would you lie about it in your answer?

In post 529, EddieFenix wrote:
Sonic, in your role PM, what does it say exactly as far as your cop ability goes?

This is a bad question, and I don't see how Sonic could answer without breaking the rules. You should ask him to paraphrase.

Unvote

Vote Ika

I'm considering a possible "There is No Doctor" scenario, but I still don't want to vote Sonic. I also think everyone voting Eddie should move their votes elsewhere. If you don't know where to move said vote, Ika is not bad.

EddieFenix · Post Post #531 (ISO) » Sat Nov 15, 2014 7:29 pm

In post 530, Bulbazak wrote:

In post 529, EddieFenix wrote:
Sonic, in your role PM, what does it say exactly as far as your cop ability goes?

This is a bad question, and I don't see how Sonic could answer without breaking the rules. You should ask him to paraphrase.

Bulba, I'm assuming that Sonic is smart enough to phrase their response and not break the rules/quote their role pm. Just get as detailed as possible

mastin2 · Post Post #532 (ISO) » Sat Nov 15, 2014 8:48 pm

Huh.
You've been averaging one page a day.
And suddenly you make three?!?

...Dammit!

Sonic Boom is at L-2.

Fifteenth Votecount

:

Sonic Boom - 5 (ika, Voidedmafia, pirate mollie, Nazarene, EddieFenix)

guille2015 - 3 (istott, Sonic Boom, shos)

EddieFenix - 2 (DrippingGoofBall, Doyouthinkhesaurus)
ika - 2 (guille2015, Bulbazak)
Doyouthinkhesaurus - 1 (ProHawk)

All votes are in play.

With

13

alive, it's

7

to lynch.
Day One's deadline is Wednesday, November 19th, @ 4:15 PM PST, which is in (expired on 2014-11-19 16:15:00).

Spoiler: Changes from last votecount

Last votecount was page 18, post 425.

Spoiler: Player Vote History D1

Spoiler: Voting Chronology for D1

<<< Apologies for the later votecount. I

am

busy on the weekend.
Extended votecount will go up as compensation when I'm able. I'll also begin a search for a backup mod to assist with votecounts. >>>

shos · Post Post #533 (ISO) » Sat Nov 15, 2014 9:15 pm

VOTE: prohawk

Metal Sonic · Post Post #534 (ISO) » Sat Nov 15, 2014 10:01 pm

In post 531, EddieFenix wrote:
In post 530, Bulbazak wrote:

In post 529, EddieFenix wrote:
Sonic, in your role PM, what does it say exactly as far as your cop ability goes?

This is a bad question, and I don't see how Sonic could answer without breaking the rules. You should ask him to paraphrase.

Bulba, I'm assuming that Sonic is smart enough to phrase their response and not break the rules/quote their role pm. Just get as detailed as possible

Umm it's the standard(?) cop role pm lol with a bit of mastin flavor

I am going to try

Every night, I can target a player and learn their alignment. Then

Blablabla instinct and intuition and your weapon is your vote and Win when all scum are dead

Stuff we already know

Metal Sonic · Post Post #535 (ISO) » Sat Nov 15, 2014 10:03 pm

Detailed as possible? Screw me

That was the opposite of detailed

Metal Sonic · Post Post #536 (ISO) » Sat Nov 15, 2014 10:07 pm

I am going to ask mastin if my proposed "paraphrasing" is safe enough. I got burned in Event Card mafia for bad paraphrasing skills

<<< Mod note: my role PMs are formatted in a manner where there is not much available to paraphrase more often than not. >>>

Metal Sonic · Post Post #537 (ISO) » Sat Nov 15, 2014 10:10 pm

Long story short I got mod killed and Zoroaster the listmod hates me

So yeah

Safety first

Ps: I am not scum

Metal Sonic · Post Post #538 (ISO) » Sat Nov 15, 2014 10:16 pm

PS2: don't put me at l-2 ffs

Doyouthinkhesaurus · Post Post #539 (ISO) » Sat Nov 15, 2014 10:22 pm

I honestly thought the Sonic wagon disbanded but mastin proved me wrong. Are you guys kidding me?

<<< Hey, while as a player I pride myself on mistakes, as a moderator I take pride in preventing them! >>>

How the hell are they still at L-2 when Voided, mollie, Nazarene AND Fenix have all posted since the claim?

@Bulba: Why not vote Fenix? You've said zilch on why he's town between your Fenix vote and your ika vote. Hell, the post right before your last one you called him scum. What changed?
Just want to say that if I unvote Fenix I'll go back to ProHawk. Can build a case if anyone wants but this doesn't seem like a very case-y game.

Metal Sonic · Post Post #540 (ISO) » Sat Nov 15, 2014 10:32 pm

I think you should build a case; this IS a Casey game according to my predictions

Doyouthinkhesaurus · Post Post #541 (ISO) » Sat Nov 15, 2014 10:47 pm

ProHawk's entire ISO:

99, RVS or unexplained vote on shos, says not to kill Nazarene arbitrarily.
142 says he'll "try not to tunnel on Voided".
173 is fluff.

At this point ProHawk has produced 0 content and mollie calls him out on it. He proceeds to try to tell her she hasn't either when she clearly has, as I pointed out. Deflection of suspicion. 180 says he has no reads and then 190 is a naked vote on mollie.

239 is fluff. 240 is more fluff. 243 says the vote on mollie was

a reaction test

for the people townreading her and that he basically found out nothing. Back to square one. 244 repeats the question to me of what content mollie produced.

246 is deflection of my suspicion. I tell him he's producing no content, he just says I'm beating the same drum.
Funny thing is, that hadn't changed.
248 is going back to the shos wagon, no explanation.

293 is legitimately fluff beetlejuicing. Wth?
Now getting to the part with actual content:

In post 294, ProHawk wrote:I'm getting strange vibes from shos, like not town-vibes. Also, up until his vote, the general vote pool has been spread thin. No-real-wagons. Could be trying to start something.

This is meaningless.

In post 295, pirate mollie wrote:
In post 294, ProHawk wrote:I'm getting strange vibes from shos, like not town-vibes. Also, up until his vote, the general vote pool has been spread thin. No-real-wagons. Could be trying to start something.

wouldn't it be easier for scum to join a wagon at this point?

In post 296, ProHawk wrote:He did, on Jackal. And then called Jackal 100-percent town.

This was already disproven.

In post 298, ProHawk wrote:In other news, Ika said he can "solve" you. How does that make you feel?

This is a terrible line of questioning.

336 is a clarification question, null.

In post 338, ProHawk wrote:See... that actually was the game I was going to compare it to, and it actually doesn't remind me of it at all. Maybe cause you had scum-blinders on? What part about it reminds you of the same Shos?

Okay question.

In post 339, ProHawk wrote:
In post 335, Nazarene wrote:shos wagon is not good. More later.
-A

From what I recall, you and I didn't get along much. Call Tier over.

Useless, refusing to interact with a player.

In post 340, ProHawk wrote:
In post 317, Doyouthinkhesaurus wrote:specifically when it comes to ProHawk, mollie, and Sonic.

Werent you all lovey dovey with Mollie earlier?

Terrible line of questioning along with misrepping what was explicitly a slight townread. This question reads like he's trying to suspect me for changing my mind.

In post 372, ProHawk wrote:I don't want to lynch Voided.

In post 361, guille2015 wrote:And I've played with Shos and he is not Lynchbait.

I second the above statement.

Dino-Boy. You'll have to get over that someday.

Useless statement, sheeping, and deflection.

In post 373, ProHawk wrote:
In post 362, Doyouthinkhesaurus wrote:ika is playing EXACTLY to his town meta.

That doesn't bother you at all?

In post 382, ProHawk wrote:
In post 375, Voidedmafia wrote:Prohawk, isn't playing to your townmeta generally a good thing? (not that I'm disallowing the thought of very good scum acting as their town selves, but what gives you the notion that it's somehow scum impersonation than genuine?)

The key word is EXACTLY... good scum are exacting.

This is just dumb and arguing over my semantics.

In post 459, ProHawk wrote:You all will regret disbanding the Shos wagon.

In post 461, ProHawk wrote:I am prophesying Voided. Quiet.

I don't even know what this is.

And I already commented on his last two posts.

ProHawk has been useless and fluffy and has repeatedly deflected my suspicion for producing no content with... more of no content. Every statement he's made on the game has been a statement someone else has already said, he tunneled shos when it was cool to do so and his vote for mollie only lasted long enough to see that no one cared for it.
Also his lines of questioning suck.
There is 0 reason to think ProHawk is town.

Doyouthinkhesaurus · Post Post #542 (ISO) » Sat Nov 15, 2014 10:55 pm

I'm also kind of bewildered that I've legitimately been the ONLY one (since Voided's vote) to notice him and the problem with him up until shos's vote on him.
I don't recall anyone paying any attention to my claims that he's done nothing.
This troubles me.

istott · Post Post #543 (ISO) » Sat Nov 15, 2014 11:53 pm

Oh wow.
VOTE: Prohawk.

EddieFenix · Post Post #544 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 2:37 am

In post 534, Metal Sonic wrote:
In post 531, EddieFenix wrote:
In post 530, Bulbazak wrote:

In post 529, EddieFenix wrote:
Sonic, in your role PM, what does it say exactly as far as your cop ability goes?

This is a bad question, and I don't see how Sonic could answer without breaking the rules. You should ask him to paraphrase.

Bulba, I'm assuming that Sonic is smart enough to phrase their response and not break the rules/quote their role pm. Just get as detailed as possible

Umm it's the standard(?) cop role pm lol with a bit of mastin flavor

I am going to try

Every night, I can target a player and learn their alignment. Then

Blablabla instinct and intuition and your weapon is your vote and Win when all scum are dead

Stuff we already know

Unvote

I've got my eye on you, Sonic. Don't think I won't investigate further down the line if you start to smell fishy to me.

Metal Sonic · Post Post #545 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 3:22 am

i dont smell like fish i smell like hedgehog

Sonic Boom · Post Post #546 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 3:22 am

In post 545, Metal Sonic wrote:i dont smell like fish i smell like hedgehog

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #547 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 3:22 am

In post 532, mastin2 wrote:
Sonic Boom - 5 (ika, Voidedmafia, pirate mollie, Nazarene, EddieFenix)

There be more scum in this wagon, not just EddieFenix. There's one more.

Sonic Boom · Post Post #548 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 3:23 am

i really dont know what to say about the prohawk case

like

i dont know what to say

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #549 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 3:24 am

Metal Sonic sucks at hydras.

<<< If my activity this weekend wasn't so low as to be debilitating, I might scold him for it. As-is, I don't have the energy. >>>