Mini 1622: (Hilariously) Unbalanced Mafia [-Over-]

mastin2 · Post Post #700 (ISO) » Tue Nov 18, 2014 9:37 am

Insert witty comment here.

Twenty-Second Votecount

:

ProHawk - 3 (shos, istott, Mathdino)

Mathdino - 2 (ProHawk, Bulbazak)

Voidedmafia - 2 (pirate mollie, Nazarene)
ika - 1 (guille2015)
DrippingGoofBall - 1 (Sonic Boom)
guille2015 - 1 (Voidedmafia)

Not Voting - 3 (EddieFenix, DrippingGoofBall, ika)

With

13

alive, it's

7

to lynch.

Day One's deadline is Wednesday, November 19th, @ 4:15 PM PST, which is in (expired on 2014-11-19 16:15:00).

WARNING: This is just over 24 hours away!

Spoiler: Changes from last votecount

Last votecount was page 28, post 696.

Spoiler: Player Vote History D1

Spoiler: Voting Chronology for D1

Bulbazak · Post Post #701 (ISO) » Tue Nov 18, 2014 9:41 am

Unvote

Vote Guille2015

shos · Post Post #702 (ISO) » Tue Nov 18, 2014 9:43 am

The bulba-dino fight looks like TvT to me (fitting smiley! TvT!

) so you guys should cut it out.
on the other hand, Voided saw that there's under 24 hours for a lynch and left the possibly only viable wagon for a right now nonexistent wagon on guille. I find this horribly scummy, and I conclude that either voided is scum trying to ruin town's play by nolynching, or he's bussed earlier because it looked good and now he runs away in attempt to save his buddy prohawk. since now it is 3prohawk and 2voided it matters not where I be, so I shall take voided.

VOTE: Voidedmafia

mastin2 · Post Post #703 (ISO) » Tue Nov 18, 2014 10:01 am

I realize only two posts have happened since the last VC, but at this stage in the day, the votes (and lead wagon) are shifting often enough that I figure it'd be appreciated. (Especially since I'm behind on my extended votecount format.)

Twenty-Third Votecount

:

Voidedmafia - 3 (pirate mollie, Nazarene, shos)

ProHawk - 2 (istott, Mathdino)

guille2015 - 2 (Voidedmafia, Bulbazak)
Mathdino - 1 (ProHawk)
ika - 1 (guille2015)
DrippingGoofBall - 1 (Sonic Boom)

Not voting - 3 (EddieFenix, DrippingGoofBall, ika)

With

13

alive, it's

7

to lynch.

Day One's deadline is Wednesday, November 19th, @ 4:15 PM PST, which is in (expired on 2014-11-19 16:15:00).

WARNING:

This is just over 24 hours away!

Spoiler: Changes from last votecount

Last votecount was page 29, post 700.

Spoiler: Player Vote History D1

Spoiler: Voting Chronology for D1

pirate mollie · Post Post #704 (ISO) » Tue Nov 18, 2014 10:07 am

In post 695, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 692, pirate mollie wrote:bulba did the same discrediting to me right after mastina's new york game where I correctly pegged him as scum.

Could he be scum here too?

he was town when he did it to me in chain. in the new york game where he was scum he did it to a small degree but mostly to suck up to thorella while thorella and I were in 1 of our wall wars so there was an agenda behind it. i am leaning mebbe town here. and don't get me wrong i

like

bulba but I know how he can get sometimes.

it surprises me that you are not putting more stock in his townread on eddie since you know how deep IRL ties can go.

Voidedmafia · Post Post #705 (ISO) » Tue Nov 18, 2014 10:19 am

In post 702, shos wrote:on the other hand, Voided saw that there's under 24 hours for a lynch and left the possibly only viable wagon for a right now nonexistent wagon on guille. I find this horribly scummy, and I conclude that either voided is scum trying to ruin town's play by nolynching, or he's bussed earlier because it looked good and now he runs away in attempt to save his buddy prohawk.

hahahaha seriously, how do you get this at all?

Tell me, how many people are going to vote ProHawk considering just how vehemently Bulb is defending him? How many people would vote Dino considering how many people aren't very gung-ho about that lynch? Why do you expect me to vote myself except in a very down-to-the-wire situation where I'm the only viable lynch and there's, like, less than an hour left (or less depending on how late I can stay on)?

Bulbazak · Post Post #706 (ISO) » Tue Nov 18, 2014 10:25 am

In post 692, pirate mollie wrote:
bulba did the same discrediting to me right after mastina's new york game where I correctly pegged him as scum. just ignore him and plz play cos you are not being helpful and THAT looks kind of scummy cos you have thicker skin than that.

Thought about this for awhile and realized how big a load of crap it was. My next game with you after Manaical was Chain of Command, where I called you paranoid and said I preferred to deal with your other head. We ended up arguing for awhile before I attempted to reach out to you. It was after this that I started building a base line to read your town game, which has a lot more fire than your scum game. Guess what I'm not seeing in this game?

Oh, and I looked back to see what was going on when you started the fight between DGB and me, and it seems that I had just started ramping up my push on Dino. It wasn't until after you accused me of discrediting DGB (which was false) that attention started to be drawn off of Dino and onto myself due to the offhanded comment, and it was at this point that Dino jumped in and started strawmanning my case in a further attempt to discredit me. You singlehandedly weakened my Dino-scum push by drawing attention to an offhand comment I made to Eddie which could be paraphrased as "Don't worry about it. DGB does this all the time.".

And one more thing: I was town in Chain of Command, and you do get paranoid. A lie of omission is still a lie.

Bulbazak · Post Post #707 (ISO) » Tue Nov 18, 2014 10:26 am

EBWOP: Dang it post preview, you didn't show me that Mollie had already responded...

pirate mollie · Post Post #708 (ISO) » Tue Nov 18, 2014 11:27 am

In post 706, Bulbazak wrote:Thought about this for awhile and realized how big a load of crap it was. My next game with you after Manaical was Chain of Command, where I called you paranoid and said I preferred to deal with your other head. We ended up arguing for awhile before I attempted to reach out to you. It was after this that I started building a base line to read your town game, which has a lot more fire than your scum game. Guess what I'm not seeing in this game?

you were actively discrediting me in that game. period. end of story.

I was in that game. guess what I am not here.

Oh, and I looked back to see what was going on when you started the fight between DGB and me, and it seems that I had just started ramping up my push on Dino. It wasn't until after you accused me of discrediting DGB
(which was false)
that attention started to be drawn off of Dino and onto myself due to the offhanded comment, and it was at this point that Dino jumped in and started strawmanning my case in a further attempt to discredit me. You singlehandedly weakened my Dino-scum push by drawing attention to an offhand comment I made to Eddie which could be paraphrased as "Don't worry about it. DGB does this all the time.".

And one more thing: I was town in Chain of Command, and you do get paranoid. A lie of omission is still a lie.

^ erm...wat? you did discredit dgb that is why she is saying she is moping around being useless. own it.

and no1 was voting you so how exactly was attention being drawn off of math thing and onto you? and it is citing specific instances where you said that dgb's play was shit is explicitly discrediting her. math thing is discrediting your case not you as a player while you are discrediting dgb as a player. there is a difference.

the chain of command reference doesn't even make fucking sense. I SAID YOU WERE TOWN IN CHAIN OF COMMAND IN A LATER POST TO DGB.

mastin2 · Post Post #709 (ISO) » Tue Nov 18, 2014 11:29 am

<<< At long, long last, all the extended votecounts are now up. I've done the little bits of bookkeeping left, so I don't think there's anything more I can do other than just watch, right now, and enjoy the show.
*breaks out some of this:*
>>>

pirate mollie · Post Post #710 (ISO) » Tue Nov 18, 2014 11:33 am

In post 707, Bulbazak wrote:EBWOP: Dang it post preview, you didn't show me that Mollie had already responded...

ugh. I respond as I go along. I think we are doing a bit of talking past each other.

tell me how this is prohawk's town game.

in other newz voided is still scum.

Mathdino · Post Post #711 (ISO) » Tue Nov 18, 2014 12:15 pm

Somehow I feel like Bulba pulling 3 different games, links, and analysis isn't an "offhand comment to Eddie".
Somehow I feel like you don't get to blame someone else for a conflict that you had.

This conversation is literally the dumbest possible one we could be having this close to LyLo, FFS.

Mathdino · Post Post #712 (ISO) » Tue Nov 18, 2014 12:24 pm

Spoiler: Bulbazak, 694

1. Apologies, got the history mixed up. ProHawk responded to MOLLIE'S accusations of said fluffing by saying mollie had done nothing, which I called out as a lie directly afterward:

In post 176, ProHawk wrote:Time will tell Mollie. Time will tell.

But offhandedly I can't think of any content you have produced either... so there is that.

2. The below is ProHawk's 605:

Spoiler: 605

I underlined the misreps for you. He came up with a conspiracy theory in which 3 people are asking for a CC, which is simply not true. This is misrepping. Not ONCE did I say that I was calling for a counterclaim today.

3. It's strawmanning because he keeps fighting against the idea that DGB, guille and I are asking for a counterclaim and rolefishing, which I am not (can't really speak for them).

Nazarene · Post Post #713 (ISO) » Tue Nov 18, 2014 12:25 pm

I'm a bit disconnected atm but I want to say that those voting voided get cookies while those voting prohawk get mean looks
Guille not decided yet.

But yeah, vote voided.

Bulba, give me a SUMMARY of your point on mathdino.
Three lines of text.
You can do it.
-Tier

istott · Post Post #714 (ISO) » Tue Nov 18, 2014 1:31 pm

At this moment, I still feel comfortable voting prohawk. I would also be fine with Guille being lynched. These two are my main scumreads at the moment.
For Guille, take a look at this:

In post 358, guille2015 wrote:Fine Fine,
My shos explanation is Up there.
I'll get into more detail in a little while.

In post 427, guille2015 wrote:Little by little sonic is growing in scummyness. But if my memory serves correctly i've played the heads or hydra and they have played similarly. Don't recall if they were scum or not.
Must check it later.

In post 432, guille2015 wrote:The sad part about everything is that i don't understand why others pinned you as town during your first half of the game.
I must check that.

In post 677, guille2015 wrote:and yes, I know the deadline is coming up.
I'll get to it
when my mind clears.

In post 676, guille2015 wrote:
Ok, I'm going to have to ISO prohawk without any bias
. Can't do it right know.

Are you a politician? You are reeking of active lurking.
In fact, while I am still scumreading Prohawk, I feel my vote would be better on VOTE: Guille.
I plan on doing a quickfire round of questions, if anyone has any questions they would like me to answer (that can be answered quickly), fire away!

Mathdino · Post Post #715 (ISO) » Tue Nov 18, 2014 1:36 pm

That's kind of a bad reason to vote someone tbh.

358 was followed up by 361 in which he did get into more detail.

427 was followed up by 435 in which he ended up voting them.

432 was later followed up by an unvote which rendered his 'I must check that' nullified.

And 676 and 677 were made just today.

Find better reasons.

ProHawk · Post Post #716 (ISO) » Tue Nov 18, 2014 1:40 pm

In post 675, Mathdino wrote:You claim that you've been seeing me as scummy

Prove this. Now. Or you are guilty of a heinous lie and shall be lynched as such. Your head will dangle.

Next. You said I lied about Mollie not producing content. What I said was:

"But offhandedly I can't think of any content you have produced either... so there is that."

Question: How is that a lie class?

Answer: It's not because I LITERALLY couldn't think of any content Mollie had produced. You can't know if I was ACTUALLY lying or not because you can't see into my brain.

Your case is full of holes, my flip will drown you.

Mathdino · Post Post #717 (ISO) » Tue Nov 18, 2014 1:42 pm

In post 520, ProHawk wrote:Hi guys, the name of this game is Hilariously.... HILARIOUSLY... UNBALANCED Mafia. Anyone trying to use balance to solve this game is scum.

VOTE: Dinosaurus

I think he was the first one? Or maybe was just
the first scummy one who stuck out to me
.

ProHawk · Post Post #718 (ISO) » Tue Nov 18, 2014 1:44 pm

How does the bolded say that I was scum reading you for a long time or any extended period of time for that matter?

It doesn't.

ProHawk · Post Post #719 (ISO) » Tue Nov 18, 2014 1:45 pm

In post 702, shos wrote:The bulba-dino fight looks like TvT to me (fitting smiley! TvT! ) so you guys should cut it out.
on the other hand, Voided saw that there's under 24 hours for a lynch and left the possibly only viable wagon for a right now nonexistent wagon on guille. I find this horribly scummy, and I conclude that either voided is scum trying to ruin town's play by nolynching, or he's bussed earlier because it looked good and now he runs away in attempt to save his buddy prohawk. since now it is 3prohawk and 2voided it matters not where I be, so I shall take voided.

VOTE: Voidedmafia

This is not a town-reason to change votes. But what do I know.

VOTE: Guille

Sad sad compromise.

Voidedmafia · Post Post #720 (ISO) » Tue Nov 18, 2014 1:46 pm

We could just compare yours and Mollie's ISOs up to that point and get a consensus of sorts (well, that'd be impractical now, but yknow.)

Nazarene, you aren't going to get me lynched today, nevermind that your reasons that I know of ("oppurtunist" votes) really mean nothing unless enough people agree I was scummily hopping onto "bad" wagons.

Vote for guille, Prohawk, or another wagon of your choosing.

P-EDIT: It isn't. At all. Also got hints of a Catch-22 in there, too.

Mathdino · Post Post #721 (ISO) » Tue Nov 18, 2014 1:46 pm

Then you're gonna have to explain what you meant better, because saying I'm the first scummy person who tried to use balance to solve this shows that you already thought I was scum before I did that.

But the first time I tried to use balance was over a dozen pages ago after jackel's claim. Which means I've been scummy since then.

If that's not true, then rephrase your argument so we don't get caught up on that.

istott · Post Post #722 (ISO) » Tue Nov 18, 2014 1:49 pm

In post 715, Mathdino wrote:That's kind of a bad reason to vote someone tbh.

358 was followed up by 361 in which he did get into more detail.

427 was followed up by 435 in which he ended up voting them.

432 was later followed up by an unvote which rendered his 'I must check that' nullified.

And 676 and 677 were made just today.

Find better reasons.

Point taken. I should be more careful. But I still prefer this wagon to the other possibilities at the moment.

ProHawk · Post Post #723 (ISO) » Tue Nov 18, 2014 1:55 pm

In post 721, Mathdino wrote:But the first time I tried to use balance was over a dozen pages ago after jackel's claim. Which means I've been scummy since then.

Not the balance part I was talking about.

I was talking about the counter-claiming bit.

Probably should have been coy about using the Balance/Unbalanced thing, but I did write my wall to explain everything. Doesn't matter though everything I write is scummy (which should be a tip off to you anyway but I digress).

Believe me, if anything you did struck me as scummy, my vote would have been all over you then.

Sonic Boom · Post Post #724 (ISO) » Tue Nov 18, 2014 2:08 pm

Only when I hop off the bus then everyone decides to get on

Not sure if I'm just fast or a pussy

Like when you leave cause there's nobody there and it's awkward and might be at the wrong place... When you're just early

VOTE: guille

Eyes on you, DGB