Mini 1622: (Hilariously) Unbalanced Mafia [-Over-]

[ika]

/comfirm

prempting my vote already

[ika]

ika

, please claim this role in your next post or I will lynch you myself.

ok im....









































not hammerer

i have a feeling i know what you ARE saying though

[ika]

so im going to do this again jsut to piss off dino (but semi seriosu about it)

mass rolecall anyone?

[ika]

@Mod: Can I have a funny dinosaur joke?

i can give you one:

[ika]

hey obligatiry page top

<<< I'd be mad if pagetopping was something I as a mod was actually obsessed about, but fortunately, I am not. >>>

so the dicussion i have seen so far:

"one-shot miller"
"is shos gambiting"
"cops"

am i missing anything? i overloaded on games so im prioratizing them so i can get to them all

anyone want to give me anything i have missed/questions?

[ika]

ok so i just got off work and im going to power thought the game real quick again (shouldnt be too hard XP) and give out my intial reads

[ika]

1. shos

2. Nazarene (TierShift+Aegor)

3. Voidedmafia

4. Sonic Boom (Metal Sonic+Titus)

5. Bulbazak

6. EddieFenix

7. ProHawk

6. ika

9.

Doyouthinkhesaurus (Mathdino+blindmewithscience)

10. BBmolla

11. pirate mollie

12. Jackel98

13. DrippingGoofball

that should be about right from what i have read

[ika]

oh, forgot this,

VOTE: sonic boom

im prob going to sleep. i might be around

[ika]

ok so im home from worka nd got some free time,

@bulba, not yet i want people to comment on it more

@BB/anyone who called me a good player: wut? i actually consider my self a mediocre player at best.

that being said, whats the case on jackal outside of "one-shot miller?"

[ika]

im going to get to this in a bit,

[ika]

does someone want to give me the quick idea while i catchup (i have glanced but i have to go back now and reread so i can compile everything)

[ika]

ok so i caught up but feeling lazy and tired sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

read list

1. shos - dunno, his last scum game is largly outdated, what was the case on him before? he was gambiting or some stupid shit?
2. Nazarene (TierShift+Aegor) - i have trouble reading aegor so im kinda waiting this one out. teir i have seen just be a derp
3. Voidedmafia - havent played with ever so im going to see how it unfolds
4. Sonic Boom (Metal Sonic+Titus) - its fucking titus, shes alwasy scum
5. Bulbazak - truth be told i have this huge biased with the stly he does and wil by default scumr ead it
6. EddieFenix - afk?
7. ProHawk - could be scum, i want to see how he plays out first
6. ika - not a hammer but a troll role
9. Doyouthinkhesaurus (Mathdino+blindmewithscience) - town considir it a mixture of meta and ~reasons~
10. BBmolla - scum, a major overreaction to my "first" read list
11. pirate mollie - mollie needs to talk with me, if shes known to be like me i will solve her merly by interacting
12. Jackel98 - i still dont get the case outside of "one-shot miller"
13. DrippingGoofball - im just ignoring untill further notice after bulbas agme.

[ika]

@bulba, i know it doesnt match up, the first one was when i got board and decided to make rainbows and see what people would do about it.

(in b4 someone yells at me for "reaction test)

[ika]

beetlejuice!

miss anything?

[ika]

beetlejuice!

miss anything?

Your scumpartners gave you up in exchange for us not lynching them today.

really? tell me who my imaginary scum partners are
really? how come your not voting me?
really? how come im not l-1 so i can self hammer and show you that your wrong?

in ohterwords: no i have not missed anything besides a jackal replacement.

[ika]

[sarcasm]yes its an overreaction and me obviously not trolling[/sarcasm]

[ika]

i just got poked on i need to poke bak (my com booting up and just got home from work one sec)

[ika]

ok so i kinda caught up (while eating) so heres where i stand on everything, im making if breif too cus i got work in the morning and then school

first off UNVOTE:

the cop claim is a sefl resloving problem on its own but whatever

@guile: you seem to have not read fully then, i stated my reason for wanting that slot lynched, it has titus who is a hindrance to us, if you look at the last game (robbery at casino) she tunnles on 2 town and even went to the extent of nealry doing the fake cop guilty
also i almost always scum read her cus if she is scum she is at time near impoosible to lynch
if your sole reason for scum reading me is cus "list and doing shit" then you really dont know my play i play close to heart and very seculded about my reasons with almost everything

@hawk, if we are going to break a game,liek this is easier by mass call then "what fits" but everyone already shut down the idea apparently

@dino: you are now a compulsive 1-shot vig, who do you kill and why?

@mollie: y you no talk to me?

@bulb: you gonna talk to me or jsut vote me?

@eddie: heads or tails? (yes this is a seriosu question)

@shos: should i go full ika mode for day 1? if not why?

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im going to sleep cus i got work in the morn and school but i should be around for tuseday at least (my day off)

[ika]

SHOOOSSSSSSS

should i go full ika mode for day 1? you didnt answer it and i want to knwo if i should

pedit:

@bulb: lete me rephrase: you were voting me at one point

yes i want to talk with you. seeing how you are also a player who like mecanics and what i would say "non-normal" what you think the setup is? i want to break this game into 2.

[ika]

I'm not sure how successful we'd be trying to break the setup, as it seems to be designed in a way to throw us off. I am, however, thinking that scum probably have 1-2 godfathers on their team, with 1 being limited in the case of multiple. I'm definitely not going to blindly play Follow the Cop.

what about muli-cop/cop insanitie(s) or even backups?

do you think this could be a thinly viled "basic" game (ie, cop+doc vs goon+PR+PR) and then a jumble of random stuff to make it interesting?

what about the idea of no VT and everyone is a PR game?

[ika]

fair enough.

anything for me while im around? im gonna be gone in a few

[ika]

how has this game nearly gone on 2 weeks already?

<<< I know, right?!? It blindsided me, too! I guess what they say is true: when you have so much fun, time really does fly you by. >>>

shit well that means i have to kick it into gear and right now it looks like its hawk lynch

@hawk: your now a vengful, who do you venge shoot and why?
who is the scum on your wagon?
what do you think of the current voters on your wagon who are not a scumread? townreads?

others:
i dont see the scum in dino-slot
DBG i would do for policy but would much rather poilicy titus!sloth

what was the case on eddie and/or voided again? (link to post will suffice but i can look later if needed)

really the only other person i would have something really an idication of doing is mollie mostly b/c she has not talked to me yet and

[ika]

damn i just calculated where i will be in 18 hrs and its most likely scool (got wrk in morn)

i guess i will have to ask what the plan is atm cus im going to slerp soon

[ika]

Vote me or vote guille.

Preferably Guille.

VOTE: void
VOTE: gile

how about both?

[ika]

im here for the berif moment about to head out, should be back in 10ish to be around for deadline if needed but am slightly busy

[ika]

im here for the berif moment about to head out, should be back in 10ish to be around for deadline if needed but am slightly busy

you were ready to pl dgb but now you don't even wanna see a lynch through

wat?

if we were not down to the wire I would lynch you for this

10 mins?

i said im here for the deadline i got a damn job i had to go to, and now i haev school you see my vote on a place and i havent coaught up. you could jsut give em a rundown of what the fuck is going on?

give em 5 mins to read up then.

[ika]

ok so i see the claim and glanced rest only cus i got school in a few

UNVOTE:

VOTE: void

i dont got time to play musical votes with everyone when i got my other games to get to as well.

[ika]

i just came on and heading to bed actually, but i can do this activity quickly....

from what i recall the reason why i was being called scum was really on these points:

-inconsistency
-generally being scummy

thats what i can recall offhand.

if we are all doing it i would like you to do likewise as well in your next post istott, i also have to ask even though i feel like i know the answer, is there more to this (aka another step)?

pedit: general consense =/= player should target you.

while i agree the gaem advertised imbalanced and its more or less an "anything goes" game, just b/c there is a general agreement of something does not mean that they should do such thing.

tbh if i was a cop i would of targeted one of my scum reads and worry about sanity shit later

[ika]

I feel that ika needs an imminent threat to a lynch before he can either produce actual content or reveal himself as scum.

you lost me with this sentence, if im reading it correctly:

I need to be lynched before i can post or reveal myself as scum is what your saying? that makes like even less sense then what i tend to post half of the time.

as for the other one you stated, it was a deadline compermise and i was at school at the time so i didnt have much time to do much

[ika]

@naz, im here for a bit, wanna talk?

[ika]

Sure. Who's scum and why aren't you voting em?

i need to go back and reread, but offhand:

scums
guile - mostly off pretacetor atm, but im surpirsed guile has yet to say who he targeted with JKing.
hawk - he kinda stated his reason already why others think hes scum. and while i agree, i got this odd feeling that i cant shake, hes more of a gut call
titus slot - this one is more biassed if anything mostly b/c i scum read titus every time but she has not been on skype or anywhere else, plus a policy on titus slots are always good

i could see a potential scum in the dino/bulb but logic isnt my forte so im going to let them reslove it.

null
PM - she said why she was ignoring me but its kinda annoying to em and doesnt allow me to interact with her or try to figure out what shes thinking
eddie - his major 180 turn on day 1 is what pings me, i could see it going either way
naz - prob by the end of our dicussion i will have a more set read on you, i haven played enough with either of you to be able to just peg in 2 posts like some

town
DBG - is most likely town but still always a good policy lynch XP
issot - while i still have some issues about 1-shot miller, its more of the timing of the claim and how it was handled is what makes me think its town

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as for the vote: i want the shiny hammer again. its a lot of fun to have the hammer slot

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pedit:

ok, then threaten me, the fact i play off mood is what dictate my play. if you want to run me up thats fine, but right now dont expect much from me then.

@naz, i should be with thnkgiving, i got work in a few hrs but i should be around for a bit more

[ika]

@bulb: i aim to displease, wanna talk about my disspaointing reads, i should eb around in a few hrs.

@mollie, whats your reads atm? and whats your take on the nk?

[ika]

oh forewarning, if anyone goes to l-1 while im around i will most likely hammer. so i will keep you guys updated when i am around and when im not

[ika]

@bulb: i aim to displease, wanna talk about my disspaointing reads, i should eb around in a few hrs.

Let's start with how lazy they are, how you repeatedly try to stay hands off while lamenting that you can't engage with anyone (or dowright refusing to engage), that you have no real townreads on anyone (and your actual townreads can be PL'd at a moment's notice), and how your Sonic Boom read is BS, since it revolves around how you always scumread Titus, even though Titus hasn't been posting in this game. It all seems rather contrived to me.

i could basicly sum up your entire agrument with your own sentance that its entirly YPOV. yes ita argubly a copout answer but if you really want me to wall agrue with you i can. so im going to be point blank with that.

however i will adress one point toward you spcificly right now, the titus one.

Spoiler: huge fucking rant

unless if you have played extensivly with me to the extents that titus has with em as well as know the history that we share and the pain she emotional strife she has given me, you have no fucking rights to ever riddicule me on why i want her policy lynched.

If you want i can link you to just about every damn game where i have played with ehr, most acutaly result in me edventaly going full out agro on her.

i can name 3 games offhand where she has agroed me to me beserk point where i litarly didnt care about anyone or the damn gamestate and only wanted to tunneldrive her to oblivion.

the very first game i played with her under annons she was mayor and confirmed town, late game she myslynched me and call out my rage to be fucking fake. i blew a fucking gasket at her and she never once though otherwise

in a wh game i misread her and though she was town for the longes time, after so long when she tried to myslynch me i went full out agro on her and had a huge fucking piss fight with a confirmed town jsut to in the fucking end get her lynched.

a game where i was scum and she was 3rd party scum she misrepped my "i hammer regardless" where it has been the only time where i have actualy gone to a breaking poitn as scum to go full out agro on a player.

if you look at any game with me and titus we almost always have a fight off and it resluts in me trying to lynch her b/c she has at times became toxic to me and my play

if you want to talk ot me on the ohter point i am more then happy to but again, its seems like a lot of it is YPOV, if you want to hear out MPOV then i can do that

That doesn't answer my question, ika. Why aren't you votng your scumreads?

scums
guile - mostly off pretacetor atm, but im surpirsed guile has yet to say who he targeted with JKing.

Okay I googled pretacetor and literally the only results I got were your posts on MS :/ what do you mean?

hawk - he kinda stated his reason already why others think hes scum. and while i agree, i got this odd feeling that i cant shake, hes more of a gut call

Come on, go further...

titus slot - this one is more biassed if anything mostly b/c i scum read titus every time but she has not been on skype or anywhere else, plus a policy on titus slots are always good

Titus ain't even playing.

-Tier

i told you i want shny hammer. i will get to it when i feel like it. something is pining me and i want to see how it unfolds.

its guts, what more do you want? give me something to work.

-.-

im going to refer you back to my rant as well as say if the player is on the player list, they are technacly playing

[ika]

@bulb: i aim to displease, wanna talk about my disspaointing reads, i should eb around in a few hrs.

@mollie, whats your reads atm? and whats your take on the nk?

i am not gonna lie my confidence is shaken after the voided flip.

I am confused about metal cos of how he handled voided saying that he was

sane

cop and he did not make a bigger deal about it. I will hear him out tho cos if metal is town then he is capable of sending out a clear strong town signal. I wanna hear what he has to say.

dgb worries me a bit but bulba is giving me much bigger niggles. how he is obtaining his reads doesn't make sense to me. I don't think the 2 are scum together. <----- still trying to work them out.

I think shos was universally townread hence the nk. I probably need to review what his reads were. I feel like istott might actually be town when I did a review on that slot.

I feel like guille's exit posts when he thought he was going to be lynched were pretty townish but no he hasn't said who he jailed. noted.

I know this isn't much ika but it is all I have for right now. I am still trying to get a grip on the game.

it better then nothing. ive been needing someone to soundboard off of that has similar wavelength (or play for a better term) so i dont go insane trying to listen to everyone logic everyone to death

half of the players i feel liek are just going to push me to my limits so its nice to have someone who can at least do something to keep me in check. i would se shos b/c hes a derp (entertaing derp) but now hes gone.

what about DBG ping you exactly? i can understand how bulb pings you in his "magical reads"

bolded: clairfy?

whats your read on eddie? theres soemthing about him that irks me and part of me wants to go full ika and shout it but i want o see if anyone else is picking up on what im possibly seeing or looking too uch into it

[ika]

VOTE: Sonic Boom

I do not know why this day has not ended yet.

-A

Because this day has just started. There's a lot that still needs to be taken care of.

Ika's post can essentially be summed up as "I'm not going to explain crap. Now watch as I rant about something that is a non-issue in this game and ignore the larger question of why I'm scumreading a player that doesn't exist.".

blub did you even read the damn thing?

seriosuly, i told you fucking why i scum read titus reagrsless. do you want to fucking knwo somethign? do you really want to incite my rage? cus thats what you are doign right now.

im starting to reach my point on you where i dont give jack shit and will just resort into full ika where i just tunnelfuck you damn ass for just blaintent misrep.

i answered your damn question in the fucking rant, that slot is fucking toxic. sonic has done the same damn thing to me as well. if you are really going to push me like this i will just come out right fucking now and go full out agro on your fucking ass.

seriously, you want to sort me out, you can start by not inciting me into a fit fight with you.

[ika]

you really think im trying to avoid it?

you seriously think that?

seriously?

here let me answer you then on the verybegining:

Let's start with how lazy they are, how you repeatedly try to stay hands off while lamenting that you can't engage with anyone (or dowright refusing to engage)

tbh nobody has engadde me in the manner that works with me. most o the day was circular arguments about thing that dont intrest me. you should know that i like to look at obsure angles of things and the oddities, yesterday i did reach out to you but you seems to have disregarded it, if you like i can even quote myself where i did but you seemed to ahve not done so

approach me with a theory of something. not some attack. i just reply in kind.

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that you have no real townreads on anyone (and your actual townreads can be PL'd at a moment's notice),

everyone is PL material, no matter what. you go a problem with it, thats all on your falut

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and how your Sonic Boom read is BS, since it revolves around how you always scumread Titus, even though Titus hasn't been posting in this game.

she has a few though but as of late been afk. you seem to be missing the fact also i do keep tabs on her via her sister. if i needed to get tius for some cirtical emargency i can contact her sister.

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It all seems rather contrived to me.

you want to know why? i will give you a hint: maybe its b/c i see a lot more then you think.

maybe its bc eddie is soft CC sonic right now
maybe its bc prohawk could be some PR that i dont want to be outing for the world to knwo
maybe its bc the more someon says "i want to die" the less likely its gonna happen
maybe its b/c im running a shitty ass fucking slayers gambit.

i work on a diffrent plane where i need someone to give me an idea, a conspericy theroy almost. thats how i work.

[ika]

and in that game i told you full on well its what i would of done as town as well.

about 99% of things i do as scum are thigns i do as town.

the problem is when i see the smallest thing that sticks out liek a sore thumb that i have to fight every urge from shouting it out to everyone

[ika]

fair enough.

anything for me while im around? im gonna be gone in a few

^ you never followed up on this bulb.

ill respond to the rest later. im going to bed and got work in the morn

[ika]

Why would you say any of this?!!?

ill answer this one though mostly bc its simple:

i warned you that i have reasons why i act in closed manner. you decided to push me. so knwo what i decided to do. give you exactly what you wanted, the simpile truth of what i see.

you are so focused on your loigc and stupid stuff that you seem to ignore the most blindingly obvious thing that i see in such a stuble manner

thats why i dont say anything most of the time and play close to the heart b/c my knowlage that i get and find half of the time is detremental to out.

pedit: ?

[ika]

at mollie: the issot part more

tbh nobody has engadde me in the manner that works with me.

Oh boo hoo. I don't care if the mode of engagement does or does not work for you, if someone is trying to talk to you, you talk back. Otherwise, it's looks like you're trying to avoid all lines of inquiry, because that's exactly what you're doing.

am i? im nto going to argue with a POV type of thing b/c its more or less agree to disagree

most o the day was circular arguments about thing that dont intrest me.

Then try to move the conversation along in a way that does.

so move the converstation to where it is inherently anti-town? let me tell ya somethign bulb, remember that question when i asked about all the roles that could be plausable/theories? did you ever question the very intention or idea behind it?

i made that question tailored in a very odd manner, can you figure it out?

yesterday i did reach out to you but you seems to have disregarded it, if you like i can even quote myself where i did but you seemed to ahve not done so

Quotes please.

showed

approach me with a theory of something. not some attack. i just reply in kind.

I needed to sort you. I wanted you to question me on my accusations, not dodge them.

then dont aggravate me

everyone is PL material, no matter what. you go a problem with it, thats all on your falut

I really have a problem with this mindset, as it looks like you're keeping all of your options open.

i know, but its also how i can deal with everyone and not give a fuck. if you look into GM large game it was one of my darker gaem where i litarly ditn give a single fuck abot anyone

[ika]

-snip-

YOU. DO. NOT. OUT. PRS. EVER. Not even to massage your own ego. And your thought process is not so elevated, because you would have at least tried to use what you saw to figure out who scum were via PoE, and you would have at least tried to help me derail the ProHawk wagon. My problem is that you haven't been trying to figure out who scum are, and that everything you've done looks like you did it simply to get by.

Question: Did you figure out Shos was a PR too?

the problem with it is bulb i dont know a "logical" way of pointing it out w/o directly just pointing it out. it only came to me after i relooked thought the game. most of the time i just post whatever and only when something nitpicks me do i focus in on it.

i dont try to find scums half of the time, i try to find someones role or find somone who is town that i can trust and bounce off of alone i have nothing and just wander aimlessly, but when i find a focal point i am much more percice.

for you question: no, i thought he was a VT. in his random dicussion of "leave crumbs to role" it looked too tryhard to be a PR.

most of the time i just glance and glaze to a point, if i was to go thought it in deph i bet i could find it

<<< Fixed? >>>

[ika]

mod can you fix the quoting

<<< I can try. >>>

[ika]

Yes, I am fully aware that I have not given my target. But since My target did not kill shos, I felt that I either targeted ScumPR or town.

What good would revealing my target be at the outset when I can use that information to test if my target is scum or town or null based on they're response, or if any other player has information that they should not have.

I think I should withhold my target, because I still think I can get more out of it and because I have a feeling that that information would harm town.

i could make an argumet but my mood doesnt feel like it. ill prob do it later but i can probally narrow it down vis POE later

[ika]

@Ika: Thoughts on DGB?

the fact shes driving at eddie for having a scum PM and not paying attention to the thread you mean?

i have just been ignoring it cus its nothing new from DGB in general. when i have to deal with people like that i just tune them out. ive been waiting on others who actually have discussion to be made

fyi: just to bug you, i'm pretty sure i have your role pegged.

whats your imput on the NK?

[ika]

Happy thanksgiving everyone

[ika]

VOTE: sonic

JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY

[ika]

i get home from break from work form emotional conflitc to see this?

SONIC SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY. I DONT GIVE A FLYING FUCK IF YOUR TOWN OR NOT AT THIS POINT ALL YOU HAVE DONT WAS GIVE OFF FUCKIGN SHIT. YOU HAVE LIKE NO FUCKIGN CARES FOR ANYONE IN THIS DAMN GAME IT SEEMS.

I WANTED TO PLAY THIS GAME WITH ENJOYMENT AND ALL I SEE FROM YOUR SHITTY ASS IS STUPID SHIT SPAM. FUCK OFF ALREADY ITS THE LAST THING I NEED COMING FROM THIS DAMN GAME

[ika]

god ive been needing to do that for the longest time...........

that feel so much better now that i have ogtten that out of my system.

[ika]

this game give me too much stress and rage yet i dunno why

mod fix title plz

<<< Patience, young grasshopper. There's an order to everything. >>>

ill be around for a few hrs.

[ika]

why are we not mass claiming right now?

dino you know theres one giant flaw in your plan? ill say what it is but i want to see if you know first

[ika]

mod, does mafia have to forsaken night actions to enact a nk?

<<< They do not. Mafia can both action and kill. >>>

and before the mod answers it i do know the asnwer, i almost always ask this mosly due to my own mod meta and how it deffreents from mod to mod.

[ika]

What's your point, ika?

I think i forgot my line of thoughts with it.....

its 2 in the morn here and i was thinking about it at work....

if it comes back to me i will figure it out but it might be one ofmy derp moments wher eim overthiniking it

[ika]

-.-

so when is it my turn to claim?

[ika]

not really, im not investigative but i do know my role impacts investigation

ill leave it at that for now

[ika]

i refuse to comment how my role interacts with investigations untill it is properly needed

[ika]

hawk what is the benifit of not claiming insane cop right now?

im going to cut the crap and get to what i think you are

[ika]

or at least what i think your goign to claim

[ika]

not really, im not investigative but i do know my role impacts investigation

ill leave it at that for now

wld your role allow you to know if you were jked?

no.

[ika]

im just going to

bug

piss off eddie by not answering his question now.

this game needs more entertainment and now that we have people doing stuff im going to have fun with it

[ika]

ika, weren't you the one trying to solve thesp's BM game?

Any thoughts on the gamestate? Any ideas we haven't thought of?

you want me to theorycraft?

until we do the full mass claim, there's not much i can really figure. i can speculate a bunch of ideas for fun but until we get a full mass claim its a lot of speculations.

thesp game was more concrete that it was all VT vs goons and that the mechanic itself was the "twist"

here we just have more or less a role madness game where if we just all fucking roleclaim i can break it by coordinating actions. but SOME people dont want to claim.

if we are in mass claim stage, me speculating imo is pointless until claims are made

if you want to run a "premisis" game where we state random things that could exist i can do that

[ika]

mollie?

[ika]

got about 2 hrs before i got work (waxing night )

[ika]

thoughts

on?

i have a lot so i can either do an entire basic info dump, or specfics on someone

[ika]

you should know that sometimes my thoughts on something can be detramental so im playing close to heart

[ika]

ok i just had to deal with a huge slew of things so my brain is fried.

i will get back to this tommorow (today more like its 1:30 here in morn). im off work today but i got like a dozen things to be done so i will get to this when i get the chance

[ika]

I'd like to know which claims you believe and which you're iffy on.

Would also like to know your reads list completely disregarding roles and night actions.

Also want to know your thoughts on mollie, DGB, and eyestott, since that group of players is my blindspot at the moment.

im largly tired so its semi-steam of consis/semi off top head thoughts

claims hesitant on:

tracker
JK
1-shot mill
super cop (the claim itself not the fact that hawk is most likly a pr)

mollie: still town
DBG: alone, is losing the town i once had on here but someone has seems to be saying otherwise
eyesott: if this is the one shot miller claim (i dunno who it isat this poitn) they they are one of my suspects and havent sen mcuh

im going to just fuck up vc further

VOTE: DGB

mod do another VC we need more 111111111111

<<< Sorry, I was square dancing at the time. >>>

[ika]

im too tired, but the simpilest reason why those 4 claims dont make sense right now is relaying into the fact that everyone has conflicting results.....

tldr: occam razor

im also getting board with the gamestate so im going to resort to ika mode where the first person that goes to l-1 i just hammer just to give the gaem some spice and momentum and maybe back into the game

[ika]

night

[ika]

just cus i have been skimming though it:

i would say the game is easily breakable by mass claim and that hawk is just being stupid and playing suboptiomaly if hes town thinking that he has every answer

[ika]

show role PMs for all

save us some time

[ika]

I dont have every answer, I am saying you don't and thinking you do is your downfall.

me being a player who not only knows how to break setups but also creates them. i think i have enough knowledge to know when a set is broken and when its not.

but your right i dont have every answer, but that doesnt stop me from trying and shouldnt stop others from trying either. that approach you think is "correct" is wrong though i can say that much with jsut the current claims

[ika]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=58565

broke setup and abused the roles to make it impossible for scums to win

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and your talking to a guy who almost always goes for: day 1 mass claim, done this offsite (massclaim and coridnate roles), makes thes very types of setups, and knows that an imbalanced game practicly calls for mass claim

look at our flips already scums lost a lawyer/talior, tell me why we should not be claiming when its obvious its multi-cop game

[ika]

http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthrea ... 3-Amnesiac

setup i made but overlooked the true power od doc/special ames role, game got immitetly broken

http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthrea ... 70-Stalked

game was broken by mass claim and cordinating roles. i was scum in there and you can clearly see that we did not benifit from it

[ika]

Looks like that first game wasn't a closed setup, am I wrong?

thats besides the point?

I think in absence of Fenix fullclaiming, which isn't really necessary since he's an investigative and we can just tell him who to look at, it's ika's and mollie's turn to claim to the extent they desire.

Your turn, ika.

i want to stall it out to piss off everyone now (looks at hawk/eddie)

i want eddie to give out his results on who he checked (although i bet i know)

[ika]

well if we are following the iso of you: you would of most likely targeted dbg last night

my comp just crashed so im on wiiu and it sucks so im prob heading to sleep

[ika]

my hammer sense are tingling..........

[ika]

ive been busy with rl and modding on other sites tbh, this game has been backburner for me.

[ika]

im a death miller who flips mafia when lynched but investigates as town

take it as you want

OG: i have been checked out of almost all my games to to rl and im heading out of state soon so i dunno if i will have internet or not.

so if you guys want to just lynch me go right ahead

[ika]

im running off top of me head what i recall. i havent looked back for my pm scince game began. prob right and i could go check but im lazy and apathetic

[ika]

I don't think I have actually been an easy lynch in a long time

*points toward inuyasha game*

most of my thoughts are in the scum QT.

ill prob have better ones some other time.

[ika]

I wanna see why I got killed.....

i wanted you dead b/c you were the one who would stop dino/bulb fight and i wanted it to escelate