Mini 470 - Some Guys Are Trying To Kill You (done)

[Erotomachia]

Vote: zakk_status

for taking so long to confirm.

[Erotomachia]

I'd say that's a bit of a OMGUS. Although I do appreciate your attempt to start a discussion, soupfly. What do you mean by "odds against their side?"

And my name is actually quite innocent!

[Erotomachia]

I think that from an early game standpoint no one is really a good move yet. Some players still haven't even posted! (Langley, zakk_status)

[Erotomachia]

how many mafia are there in this game? My first mini

I haven't played that many minis, but there are usually 3.

Khelvaster said that he investigated the godfather probably because of the flavour in his death scene. But the mod has already told us it doesn't matter. I think we should ignore it. The fact of the matter is simply that our cop is dead.

Personally, I don't find soupfly that scummy. True, he was a little overeager...but for now, that's about it.

[Erotomachia]

unvote

vote: Langley

He posted in another game on July 10, but has ignored this one since we started.

[Erotomachia]

Mod

, could we get a votecount and some prods? Thanks.

[Erotomachia]

You're right...I had completely forgotten that it's only 6 to lynch. I'm definitely not comfortable with the idea of someone being at -2 so early in the game.

Anyway, I'm going to wait for the mod to show up.

[Erotomachia]

Is that all you have to say?

It's interesting that Gatorguy just unvoted as soon as he came under a little bit of pressure.

[Erotomachia]

Hmm, I think the group has basically split in two, with some attacking soupfly and others attacking Gatorguy

Gatorguy: Soupfly, Jenter
Soupfly: Gatorguy, erg0, Niv, Streeflo, ThaiBoxer

I haven't voted for either; I've only weakly defended soupfly by saying that I "don't find soupfly that scummy."

It's hard to be suspicious of people when so few are active. And at the moment I'm having trouble distinguishing the different players.

I think we need a replacement for zakk_status, and probably Langley too. Thankfully Streeflo should start posting soon.

I'm going to

unvote

because my vote on Langley is pretty useless given that he's not even here.

[Erotomachia]

the one thing i'm not liking is that suspicion seems to be falling on those who are most active in posting.

Good Point!!

Vote Zakk_status

Tell Me WHY You're not scum. [/b]

This vote is pretty useless. Langley and zakk clearly aren't here and I doubt that he'll even respond.

Soup is right, it is to early (which I'd said earlier in my defence) to lynch anyone. I'd like everyone to say who they think is scummy and why.

I feel like we have a really long way to go. However, I will say that soupfly looks pretty townie to me. He's been the best at generating discussion so far. I'm tempted to vote for Jenter at the moment. Earlier in the game he said "Wait - there's a godfather?" after Khelvaster posted. I could easily see scum feigning ignorance about that. Lately he's But I'm a little suspicious of Gatorguy too, and Jenter has actually been attacking him quite a bit.

Mod

, I think we need replacements for Langley and zakk.

[Erotomachia]

I sware I'm the VI.

It's not a good idea to say something like this. It's basically WIFOM. It's equivalent to arguing that you can't be scum because you're just such a bad player. A newbie might similarly claim that he made mistakes just because he didn't know any better.

Before we lynch anyone we should wait until Langley and zakk are replaced so that we can hear their thoughts.

[Erotomachia]

Sorry for not having posted in so long. I'll get caught up reading and post when I get home tonight.

[Erotomachia]

All right, I finished reading. In terms of votes, I think Jenter's at 4, Gatorguy's at 2.

I could easily see Gatorguy as scum or as a townie who's slipped up a couple times. For now I'm leaning more toward townie, and would be more comfortable with a Jenter lynch. He's been lying low the whole game.

FOS: Jimmy R

because his posts are making me feel pretty cautious. After some people questioned he vote on Streeflo, he unvoted and has quickly transitioned to a vote on Jenter. I don't think he liked being in the limelight.

[Erotomachia]

Where are you, swing voters, and what do you have to say?

At work, unable to read or post much.

[Erotomachia]

Soupfly definitely feels townie to me, and I've read his recent posts about Jenter with interest. I think that the case against Jenter was mostly built up after he hypocritically asked for more content even though he himself was pretty inactive. But being a lurker does not make him scum. The case against Gatorguy is stronger. He's taken advantage of the Jenter bandwagon, and I believe that's the only reason his vote is on Jenter now.

vote: Gatorguy

[Erotomachia]

I think he's at L-2. Soupfly unvoted.

[Erotomachia]

GATOR: I'd like to know what your hypothesis is now. Who do you think is the scum pair(/trio?)? Where do you rate everyone in scumminess?

scum trio:

Jenter, Thaiboxershorts (either that or he's just REALLY Paranoid) or Haut boy, Streetflo

Why Streeflo?

[Erotomachia]

Gatoguy's list is interesting...Jenter, TBS, and Streeflo are all voting for him. I don't think they can all be scum. It doesn't make any sense to suggest that all 3 scum are bandwagoning the same person.

[Erotomachia]

[quote="Oman"]Jenter Scummy
Gator Scummy
Soup (mutually exclusive with Gator)/Streeflo Semi-scummy
Haut/JimmyTBS Unconfirmed
Niv Townish[quote]

Do you think that both Gator and Jenter could be scum? I personally don't think it's likely.

Anyway, we haven't had a vote count in while...I think this is the current tally:

Gatorguy91: Jenter Brolincani, ThaiBoxerShorts, Streeflo, Erotomachia
Jenter Brolincani: Gatorguy91, Jimmy R, Haut Boy
soupfly: Haut Boy~♥
Niv: Soupfly

I'm pretty happy with my vote on Gatorguy.

[Erotomachia]

TBS, a confirmed vanilla is a huge asset. I think you deserve a FOS just for that plan of yours.

I believe Gator, so I'll

unvote

. I'm ready to vote for Jenter. He's at L-2 now...does everyone else agree that he's the plan for today?

[Erotomachia]

Damn, yet another claim? So our two main choices for the Day 1 lynch were a mason and a vig? This is pretty crazy.

I know that SKs often claim vig, but I don't see any reason why a SK wouldn't use his kill N0. And we only had 1 kill N0.

[Erotomachia]

I believe Gator and Jimmy because it seems like a huge risk for two scum to claim mason. I've definitely seen masons in mini-normals before; it's not that rare. Jimmy seems pretty pro-town, and Gator could very well have acted like the VI. I don't see any reason to lynch them today. If we do, then the other one gets killed N1 and we've lost two confirmed innocents.

You know, I've recently had a really strange vibe from you, Oman. You actually agreed with TBS' plan (which I thought a terrible idea), and then demanded a claim from Gator's mason partner ASAP. And now you want to kill Gator?

So...I'm very tempted to vote for Oman now. What do other people think?

[Erotomachia]

Gatorguy and Jimmy are as good as confirmed in my eyes. Unfortunately that means I don't think they'll live long. It's more likely that Jenter is scum. But since we can direct his kills, I don't think we should lynch him today.

vote: Oman

Whoever we end up lynching, we should establish two plans for Jenter: one if the lynch turns up town, and one if the lynch turns up scum. These may or may not be the same.

We still need to hear from a few people before we proceed.

[Erotomachia]

Vigs always win with the town...otherwise they're called SKs.

But yeah, you're right. We probably shouldn't be telling the power roles what to do. I didn't even consider the possibility that the mafia could kill Jenter's target. Then we couldn't be sure whether Jenter is scum or not.

On the other hand, I wouldn't want Jenter to kill any random person just to confirm himself. For example, I think that he definitely should not kill Gator or Jimmy. Since we'll lynch someone today, that will leave 8 possible targets for him tonight.

..but I'm still not joining the Gatorguy fan club.

You think he's scum? But in that case you must believe that Jimmy is also scum.

[Erotomachia]

Here's where we stand now:

Jenter Brolincani (3) Gatorguy91, Jimmy R, Haut Boy
Oman (2) Streeflo, Erotomachia
Gatorguy91 (1) Jenter Brolincani
soupfly (1) Haut Boy
Niv (1) Soupfly

We still need to hear from Niv, Erg0, Haut Boy, and Gator.

[Erotomachia]

You don't find anyone suspicious, Erg0?

[Erotomachia]

Our mod isn't really here...

Niv (4) Soupfly, Jenter Brolincani, Oman, Streeflo
Oman (3) Erotomachia, Niv, TBS
Jenter Brolincani (1) Haut Boy
soupfly (1) Haut Boy

I wanted an Oman lynch at first, but I suppose a Niv lynch make sense, too. And by looking at who's voting with me, I don't appear to be in good company.

We've got so many claims that I think we have a very good chance of catching scum (almost 50%). I'll be surprised if we don't get at least 1 scum with today's lynch and tonight's vig kill.

[Erotomachia]

Mod

, I would really like to hear how kill methods are determined (if you can tell us). Do different roles use different weapons or is it random?

I just wanted to echo soupfly’s post that Jenter’s kill is entirely up to him to decide. And if we have a doctor, he should protect whomever he feels is best.

[Erotomachia]

You're right. I miscounted. Streeflo isn't voting for Niv.

I think this is the current vote:

Niv (5) Soupfly, Jenter Brolincani, Oman, Jimmy, Gatorguy
Oman (4) Erotomachia, Niv, TBS, Streeflo
Jenter Brolincani (1) Haut Boy

[Erotomachia]

unvote/

Should I hammer or should we wait for some people to check in first?

[Erotomachia]

At this point we’re trying to outguess the mod. I think we just have to wait and see how many kills there are tomorrow.

[quote=”Erg0”]I particularly don't like that Ero asked for town approval to hammer.[/quote]

Yeah, I can see why that looks suspicious. But I was wondering whether a hammer would be premature. I wasn’t trying to “give myself an out” because, as I said before, I totally support a Niv lynch. I would also support an Oman lynch.

[Erotomachia]

To be honest I'm not sure. I see the argument against Niv, and he seems like a logical lynch, but Oman is still my first choice.

vote: Oman

[Erotomachia]

Yeah...I've been agonizing over this vote. On the one hand, pretty much everyone I feel is townie is voting for Niv (Jimmy/Gator, Jenter, soupfly). But on the other hand, my gut reaction is that Oman is more likely to be scum than Niv. I'm just going to be honest about my personal suspicions and have my vote reflect that.

[Erotomachia]

This is pretty much the worst case scenario.

It's only Day 2 and we're already at Lylo. This is utterly hopeless...because I really don't see how we can manage to lynch scum every day from now on.

Even though we have a 3/5 chance of getting scum, I honestly have no idea who might be scum.

Based on this, lynching TBS (if he's scum) will not really give us any further info. Lynching Streetflo or ErgO would establish a link with the other.

We don't need to lynch for info - we're at Lylo. Getting info won't help when it's game over.

FOS: soupfly

[Erotomachia]

I don't see how a no lynch will help. A mason will probably get killed and we'll be in the same situation tomorrow.

[Erotomachia]

I think we lost.

[Erotomachia]

Way too fast of a lynch (he didn't even get a chance to post), which makes me think multiple scum were on the wagon. And since all of them are still alive...

[Erotomachia]

We may have 1 confirmed, but we're still in Lylo.

I think we need to hear from Haut Boy; he hasn't posted in a while.

[Erotomachia]

I find it pretty suspicious that you would even consider that. We're in Lylo: I really don't think it's the time to be considering that our claimed mason might be scum. You're looking for a complicated explanation when there's a very simple one at hand.

[Erotomachia]

I have to get my wisdom teeth removed so I'll probably be a little out of it today. I'll be back to post my responses and suspicions as soon as possible. Please don't quick lynch anyone again.

[Erotomachia]

All right, I'm back, albeit a little drugged up.

Erotomachia seemed townie enough Day 1, but Day 2 stayed clear of the TBS wagon completely.

I'm actually very disappointed by Day 1. I didn't feel that Niv was very scummy, but I was completely convinced that Oman was mafia. After night, I was totally disheartened by losing 4 townies (including the vig) in a row.

So I was probably overly cautious Day 2. I made a mistake in going after Oman for supporting TBS' weird Day 1 plan, instead of TBS himself.

Let's look at who voted for TBS: soupfly, Jimmy, Gator, Streeflo, and Erg0. Soupfly has suggested that Haut and I are scum. That would mean that all the townies were on the TBS wagon, and that all the scum were off it. I know I'm innocent, which means that I know this is wrong and that there was definitely scum on the TBS wagon. It makes sense, too: scum voted for TBS Day 2 to make themselves look good the next day. Even from everyone else's perspective, it must seem pretty unlikely that

no scum at all

would vote Day 2.

Therefore, at least one of these people must be scum:

Erg0
soupfly
Streeflo

Unfortunately, I could see any one of these three being scum. But right now I'm most suspicious of soupfly. In post 533 he seemed a little reluctant to lynch TBS, saying:

Based on this, lynching TBS (if he's scum) will not really give us any further info. Lynching Streetflo or ErgO would establish a link with the other.

After a couple people FOS'ed him, he voted for TBS. I think he was holding back, wanting to save TBS and looking to see where the momentum was going. When the attention turned to him, he turned on his scumbuddy.

Haut Boy might be scum with one of the three, but he's posted very little recently. Maybe we should get a replacement?

[Erotomachia]

Yeah...it wasn't really caution as much as it was helplessness. We have to lynch 3 scum in a row to win.

I have absolutely no read on Haut Boy. And I don't want to lynch somebody just because he hasn't posted. He's been gone from the entire site for 11 days, so it's unclear whether he's actually lurking or just completely inactive.

Yet, at the moment everyone (including Jimmy, our confirmed innocent) seems to be placing Haut Boy at the top of their scum list, with me close behind. That doesn't even make sense to me - you think that the only 2 people who didn't vote were both TBS' scumbuddies? As I've said before, I'm sure that at least one scum turned on TBS to make himself look good the following day.

I also just realized that what I posted earlier about "one of the 3 being scum" is basically a truism. From everyone's perspective (except Jimmy's), there are 4 suspects, 2 of whom must be scum. So, yes, it's obvious, but my point was that I wanted to focus on the 3 people besides Haut Boy.

Mod

, can you prod or replace Haut Boy?

[Erotomachia]

The fact that so many people want to lynch Haut Boy makes me think he's a townie. If he wasn't, I would have expected a "counter-wagon" to form.

Erg0's confidence in Haut Boy's scumminess strikes me as scummy itself.

[Erotomachia]

The fact that so many people want to lynch Haut Boy makes me think he's a townie. If he wasn't, I would have expected a "counter-wagon" to form.

Wait, I don't get this.

I meant that scum usually have to worry about how their behavior is going to be analyzed on the next day. They have to make sure not to appear linked to one another. But since we're at Lylo, I figure that scum would really love to mislynch just to get the game over with. If they get it right, then they don't even have to worry about appearing scummy tomorrow since they'll have already won.

So if Haut Boy were scum, I would have somewhat expected his scumbuddy to cast suspicion on somebody else. The fact that there's such a strong consensus about Haut Boy makes me think that the mafia is ok with his lynch.

[Erotomachia]

Interesting theory - so you're saying that if Haut Boy were scum then there'd be one person (his scumbuddy) defending him or at least trying to prevent him from being lynched.

Isn't that what

you're

doing?

All I'm trying to say is that people are overconfident in Haut Boy's scumminess. The only argument against him is that he's been inactive.

All the signs point to Haut Boy

What signs?! He hasn't posted in 2 weeks!

I'm starting to wonder about the possibility of soupfly/Erg0 scumpair. Soupfly is still at the top of my scum list. For now, however, I'd like to hear more from Jimmy R (since he's the only confirmed innocent and someone we can trust) about what he thinks of the players besides Haut Boy.

[Erotomachia]

One last thing, to me Erotomachia gets my vote if we were to vote right now. He hasn't done anything scummy but he's also not done many things that are pro-town. Not much scum hunting for most of the game until now. Hasn't really challenged anyone or posted anything that would draw attention to himself. He's just kind of gone with the flow. That's the sense I've gotten from him.

I feel you're misrespresenting me. Look back at day 1. I think I was one of the first to call TBS' "lynch the mason" plan terrible. And I also attacked Oman in post 353 (page 15) for supporting TBS' plan and wanting to vig Gator.

[Erotomachia]

That puts Haut Boy at L-2.

I find it ridiculous that you're both voting for someone who isn't even here to defend himself. I wish the mod would just replace Haut Boy.

I'm going to have my vote reflect my actual suspicions:

vote: soupfly

[Erotomachia]

I do find it telling that there hasn't been a speedlynch now that he's at lynch -2.

It shouldn't be surprising to you at all. If Haut Boy is town, then the only people who could quick lynch him (meaning people who haven't voted yet) are soupfly, Jimmy, and me. Jimmy's obviously not going to do that. That means that soupfly and I would have to.

But a soupfly+me scumpair doesn't make any sense. In fact you yourself said that if Haut Boy is town, then I'm probably town too. So only soupfly could quicklynch Haut Boy, and 1 vote isn't enough.

By the way, I'm not saying that Haut Boy is innocent. I simply have no idea. To me, it seems basically impossible to tell whether he's scum or not.

[Erotomachia]

If you want a good case against Eroto/Shanba then look at posts 587, 588, 594, 605 and 609. Very few of these points have been adequately addressed by anybody today.

Your case against me is that I was never mentioned by TBS and that I've defended Haut Boy/Shanba. I can’t help the fact that TBS never mentioned me. However, it’s not true that my interactions with TBS were completely non-existent. As I’ve mentioned before, I was critical of his Day 1 plan and I believe I was actually the first to FOS him for it.

It's true that I was a strong defender of Haut Boy before Shanba replaced him. I felt that the votes for Haut Boy reeked of opportunistic scum targeting an inactive player. I wasn’t defending him because I knew his alignment. But from my perspective as town, the fact that everyone was jumping on Haut Boy made me very uncomfortable. And since I didn't believe that scum would attack their own partner at Lylo, this made me think that Shanba was more likely to be town.

I agree with Shanba that an Erg0/Streeflo scumpair is pretty unlikely. Erg0/Shanba also wouldn't make much sense. This means that if Erg0 is scum, his partner is probably soupfly. But I could see soupfly being scum with nearly everyone, which is why he's at the top of my list right now.

[Erotomachia]

I'm traveling and will be gone till Sunday.

Haven't finished reading the last few posts yet, but I would like to ask soupfly something. You think that Erg0 and Streeflo are scum. Do you think it likely that both scum voted for Haut Boy, one right after the other?

[Erotomachia]

I've been looking over the thread and I noticed that Erg0 was the first to vote for TBS, which I guess is a point in his favour. What's also interesting is that Streeflo was the second. This is exactly the same thing that happened with Haut Boy.

Streeflo, who do you think is scum? I'm just trying to clarify where everyone's suspicions lie.

[Erotomachia]

Shanba, I'm confused. Why are you voting for Erg0? You say that I'm town and that Erg0-Streeflo is unlikely. This leaves Soupfly/Erg0 and Soupfly/Streeflo as possible scumpairs. So why Erg0 over Soupfly?

[Erotomachia]

Soupfly is still my top choice.

I've been re-reading and thinking about Erg0/Streeflo's votes for TBS and Shanba. Streeflo's votes are obviously more scummy. This is especially true in regards to Shanba - I don't see why a pro-town player would place a second vote on an inactive player at Lylo, opening up the possibility for a quicklynch.

Shanba's vote still doesn't make any sense to me at all. By trying to guess whether Erg0 or Streeflo are scum, you effectively have a 50% of catching scum. Since you've said that soupfly would be their only logical scum partner, then voting for him should give you a 100% of getting scum (according to your assumptions, which are that I'm town and that a Erg0+Streeflo scumpair is unlikely).

[Erotomachia]

I find it sort of eerie how alike Erg0 and Streeflo are. They've voted for the same person, in the same order, for the past two days. They both share exactly the same suspicions today, and are pretty obstinate in those convictions. They haven't really analyzed each other or soupfly, focusing almost entirely on Shanba.

Soupfly, on the other hand, has jumped around a lot. In fact, I find it pretty astonishing how fluid his suspicions have been today. He's gone from calling me Haut Boy's scum partner to calling me "more town than any of us." (I'm starting to wonder whether he's "buddying up" to me right now.) He's gone from a tentative support of Erg0 and Streeflo's votes for Haut Boy, to calling Haut Boy town, to saying now that Shanba is the best place for his vote. And in between all that, he's even found the time to declare that he would be pushing for an Erg0 lynch.

In short, soupfly is literally all over the place, and this only makes me more uncomfortable. It's curious that Streeflo and Erg0 haven't noticed this and and actually regard soupfly as one of the most pro-town players.

Most people have probably assumed that I take Shanba's innocence as a given. This isn't quite true. Shanba certainly might be scum - I just think that we have much better choices right now. The only thing that disturbs me is that Shanba's current vote is illogical: given his suspicions, he should be leaning toward soupfly.

Although I would greatly prefer a soupfly lynch, given the total lack of support for it (Erg0 and Streeflo seem like they won't budge, and soupfly obviously won't vote for himself) I would also support a Erg0 or Streeflo lynch. It's hard to tell which one is a better choice (I strongly doubt that they are both scum), but for the moment I think I'd prefer a Streeflo lynch.

The point is that we need to come to consensus.

[Erotomachia]

I've made up my mind.

unvote, vote: Streeflo

[Erotomachia]

[quote"Streeflo"]If shanba comes up scum, Erotomachia will have my vote guaranteed.[/quote]

This obviously makes me extremely uncomfortable. I know that you and Erg0 are both suspicious of me, but please don't rush things.

Furthermore, the "if A is scum then so is B" argument is scummy in itself. If you're mafia, then you know that A will turn up as scum and you can use that to link the two players together and justify your vote on B.

[Erotomachia]

I'm a terrible scumhunter, but this does not make me scum. Quick lynching me would be a very foolish move.

I really don't know who the last scum is. All 3 of you are pretty suspicious. I'll admit that Erg0 certainly "looks good" since he led the lynchings of both TBS and Shanba.

It would be a extremely bold of him to do so if he were scum, so I guess I'm more suspicious of soupfly and Streeflo.

[Erotomachia]

Umm...what does the case against me consist of? I can't even defend myself against a gut feeling.

[Erotomachia]

I didn't want to claim, but it looks like I have to.

I'm the doctor. I protected Jimmy R last night. It should be pretty obvious that the mafia wouldn't choose to no-kill with a confirmed innocent around.

Here are my other night actions:

Night 1: Picked a random number and ended up protecting Langley.
Night 2: Jenter was the obvious choice, so I tried to outguess the mafia by protecting Jimmy R. Obviously, this didn't work.
Night 3: I had to choose between Gatorguy and Jimmy. To be honest, I felt that Jimmy was the better player and thus more valuable to the town in hunting scum. That's why I protected him.
Night 4: I protected Jimmy R - he was the only logical choice. I was really pleased because I knew the last scum would try killing Jimmy and I'm pretty sure they thought that there was no doctor at this point. So this must have been a nasty shock for them.

This is incredibly frustrating, because we have an extra lynch thanks to my successful protection. However, you're going to throw that away by lynching me.

I owe it to the town to try to defend myself as well as possible, since I know the last scum is among Erg0, soupfly, and Streeflo. We have two perfectly good chances of catching the last scum within that group. Unfortunately the only person who knows I'm telling the truth is the one who wants me dead.

[Erotomachia]

Shanba thought you were a townie based on very weak reasoning.

He was scum. Of course his reasoning was weak. He did a good job of linking himself to me (exploiting your suspicions) so that he'd take me down with him.

And, frankly, I don't really understand how you can think that Shanba and I were scum together. It's almost too obvious, in a sense. I don't see why Shanba, as scum, would defend his scumpartner so blatantly when he's on the verge of being lynched. He would instead distance himself from his partner - and Shanba certainly didn't distance himself from me at all.

Seriously, look back at the interaction between Shanba and me - those aren't scumbuddy interactions.

You attacked TBS's plan fairly strongly on day 1, but voted Oman instead.

If I recall correctly, you voted Oman as well. I don't see how this is a point against me.

You weren't on either of the two scum wagons, and defended Shanba vigorously.

Yeah, I've been a terrible scum-hunter. I'll readily admit that. But that doesn't make me scum. I never really defended Shanba per se: rather, I was arguing against the lynch of a lurker. I didn't want to lynch someone who wasn't even participating in the game. Unfortunately for me, he turned out to be scum.

Over the past few posts of this, you seem to be building a soupfly case centered around how he jumps around with his votes. However, when no one supports you, you jump right off and the next post you "made up your mind" and slapped a vote on me.

Well, I wanted a soupfly lynch, but I had zero support for it. I obviously didn't want a no lynch, so I had to go with what was realistic. You were my number 2 suspect, so I voted you.

[Erotomachia]

That was pretty fast...

We have one more chance then.

Trying to outguess the scum on night 1 would not be a good play, because a live vigilante is much more valuable than a live mason.

I realize in hindsight that it was a poor choice, but at the time I felt clueless. This is actually my first time playing as doctor. And I kept wondering whether Jenter was SK or something.

[Erotomachia]

Day-killing scum? Damn. The mafia was really strong...

I enjoyed this game. Erg0, you did an exceptional job hunting scum. Although I think you put slightly too much trust in Streeflo.

[Erotomachia]

I was basically wrong about everyone: I was wrong about Oman, wrong about soupfly, and wrong about Shanba. Toward the end I started getting suspicious of Streeflo, but by then it was too late and everyone thought I was scum.

The annoying thing about a day-killing scum is that it was pretty much an automatic win for the mafia once there were 4 players left. I really wasn't expecting that.

[Erotomachia]

I thought that Streeflo was going to no-kill Night 5 and then get me lynched the next day.