Alright I got through, time to make my thoughts more organized.
First of all, EBWOP: There probably won't be a point in speculating a cop investigation seeing how our cop already died. (Might be outguessing mod, but not altogether an unreasonable thought).
ThaiBoxerShorts wrote:Oman wrote:
Plan B) Lets not do this one yet. But if Gator's mason claims,
then assuming they are really masons and not scum
, we have two confirmed townies and can re-read on that.
I don't see how we could safely make that assumption. All we would know is that we have two linked players, but nothing of their alignment.
Which actually gives me an idea. If Gator's partner claims, we still won't necessarily know their alignment and might go ahead and lynch Gator anyway. But we'll find out Gator's alignment upon his death, and can safely assume that his partner is of the same alignment, so we
will
have a confirmed townie or confirmed scum at the beginning of Round 2. And if they turn out to be masons, the other one will be effectively demoted to vanilla townie, and therefore will not be a likely nightkill target. So no matter what happens, we'll begin Day 2 with some
very
valuable information.
So yes, I think I'd like to hear from Gator's partner.
I've gone over this plan in my head a few times, and I'm pretty sure it's sound. It it's not, please let me know and explain why.
NO! This is a HORRIBLE IDEA! Gator's partner needs to STAY QUIET and not make himself a NK target. Confirmed townies are EXTREMELY valuable in the endgame. If one of the masons died, their posts will have obvious links to each other. Masons don't vote for each other for example. There is no need for someone to claim a mason buddy.
Oman wrote:I went over the numbers an you're right. If they hit the mason, they have a 0 chance of hitting a powerrole. Hit any other and its 1/7 or 2/7 depending on number of powerroles left.
I'd like to hear the mason claim ASAP from his partner.
NO! DON'T OUT ANOTHER POWERROLE WHEN IT'S NOT NECESSARY!
Jimmy R wrote:I don't know if this is a good idea
or not but I'm gonna take the plunge, because people are focusing their attention in the wrong places.
It wasn't.
Oman wrote:EVERYONE UNVOTE JENTER!
This is easy to test if he is lying, we simply hit a majority and if there is no kill, its obvious.
Okay, heres my idea. If we get Jenter to kill Gator, then we have A) two confirmed innocents (Jenter and Jimmy) if he comes up town or B) one of each if he comes up scum (with Jimmy as the scum).
This way we don't waste our D1 lynch, but still get plenty of info.
Of course, if you believe Gator and Jimmy are both town...
I'm out of ideas...maybe soup or TBS? But I wouldn't wanna vig-kill anyone on a whim.
Kill: Gator
I could be wrong.
No! Why would you want to kill gator? If he was scum mason-claiming with Jimmy, scum has just dug their own grave. It's such a ridiculous gambit it's not even worth thinking about.
Erotomachia wrote:TBS, a confirmed vanilla is a huge asset. I think you deserve a FOS just for that plan of yours.
I believe Gator, so I'll
unvote
. I'm ready to vote for Jenter. He's at L-2 now...does everyone else agree that he's the plan for today?
YES! A logical post! QFT
Erotomachia wrote:I believe Gator and Jimmy because it seems like a huge risk for two scum to claim mason. I've definitely seen masons in mini-normals before; it's not that rare. Jimmy seems pretty pro-town, and Gator could very well have acted like the VI. I don't see any reason to lynch them today. If we do, then the other one gets killed N1 and we've lost two confirmed innocents.
You know, I've recently had a really strange vibe from you, Oman. You actually agreed with TBS' plan (which I thought a terrible idea), and then demanded a claim from Gator's mason partner ASAP. And now you want to kill Gator?
So...I'm very tempted to vote for Oman now. What do other people think?
YES! ANOTHER SANE POST! QFT
Oman wrote:
Ero, if you must vote for me, can you please get me vigged instead of Lynched,
I'd prefer you didn't waste D1 on a townie kill.
I sincerely hope that wasn't a claim with 0 votes on you...
Oman wrote:I'm the biggest idiot! My plan is completely based on the idea that Jenter is a day-vig. When I thought over his claim, while he doesn't say it, he implies hes a night-vig.
Jenter can you confirm either way. Thanks
Unkill: Gator
Oh dear. That could explain a bunch of things.
Summary:
TBS came up with the most remarkably bad idea I've seen in a while, but later took it back by saying "Disregard my plan" although not necessarily for all the right reasons, but he gets points for that. Jimmy should not have claimed, but no use crying over spilt milk.
TBS and Oman is looking pretty bad to me right now. Both of them were rolefishing, and advocated a mason buddy claiming.
Oh yea, and erotomachia = town.
Vote: Oman
HoS: TBS