Blitz 16: Blitz Greatest Idea Mafia(GAME OVER)

[davesaz]

I'm thinking there might be too much specific focus on WW / Mafia, where focus should be more generally Scum. Also too much role analysis that is single-ball centric and does not apply to a MB game. For example there are a lot of roles which are useless to scum in a SB game but very useful in MB. Plus I get a purely numbers-based feel that the group of people with town-sounding roles probably includes a scum or two.

[Persivul]

This makes it sound like you think FA has eliminated everyone but Ranger and Flubbernugget as possible scum. Is that what you're saying? And where did you get it from?

I got it from 1365, but looking back I see I read it too quickly. FB is also in her pool. Actually, it's so wishy-washy as to be pretty much useless - which is also scummy.

[davesaz]

Why would someone with Coroner as a choice pick scum as an alignment? And why would lynching someone claiming that role be a priority for town?

[Persivul]

Why would someone with Coroner as a choice pick scum as an alignment?

We don't yet know that's true.

And why would lynching someone claiming that role be a priority for town?

First, we don't know that role claim is true.
Second, within my scum pool, Ranger is the best player. To me that's worth more than most roles.
Third - who would you prefer?

We've spent the first half of phase wandering aimlessly with no significant wagons, and that benefits scum.

[Frozen Angel]

Why would someone with Coroner as a choice pick scum as an alignment?

We don't yet know that's true.

And why would lynching someone claiming that role be a priority for town?

First, we don't know that role claim is true.
Second, within my scum pool, Ranger is the best player. To me that's worth more than most roles.
Third - who would you prefer?

We've spent the first half of phase wandering aimlessly with no significant wagons, and that benefits scum.

the same goes with flubber

[Frozen Angel]

This makes it sound like you think FA has eliminated everyone but Ranger and Flubbernugget as possible scum. Is that what you're saying? And where did you get it from?

I got it from 1365, but looking back I see I read it too quickly. FB is also in her pool. Actually, it's so wishy-washy as to be pretty much useless - which is also scummy.

wishy washy ...

[RadiantCowbells]

FA the town leader O.o

[Frozen Angel]

FA the town leader O.o

why are you making your eyes like that?

I'm town!

[Almost50]

@Jackal: I would very much appreciate it if you claimed both your modifier & your 3 cards for the second draw. You have not responded to either of these two subjects.

@All: I'm doing a quick review/re-read from the start & reviewing ISO when/if needed. We HAVE TO decide on a plan for the night action(s) for some of us that will give our most informative roles the best chances of survival.

Please do NOT lynch anyone for the next 2-3 hours at least. We still have time and we had better know exactly what we're doing NEXT.

[Flubbernugget]

I fully believe that you're doctor.

I'm not positive that you're TOWN doctor.

I AM

GET FULLY POSSITIVE

See this is why people don't believe you

[Flubbernugget]

VOTE: Flubb

this is more like it ...

I feel a bad vibe here

Just so you know you're scum reading me for the same reasons that made you throw a hissy fit at RC

[Flubbernugget]

I'm ok with this plan

I'm NOT!
Why would we want to waste the action of 3 different players to check on one? Tracker better be tracking a suspect. Doctor better be protecting the Tracker or the Coroner. 3 Bussing actions should be enough to confuse the hell out of the mafia.

It's a bit too complicated still, but I'm working on a plan in which ONLY FA will announce her target. That will be the only slot which will not be considered for a bus action (bc it's already protected). The rest of the actions will go unannounced as normal, and we will compare the results in the morning, starting by the least trusted. (This is to know if they are telling the truth, so it will be conclusive for/against them).

How about

Bus driving a protective is a scum claim

[Frozen Angel]

How can I make people believe me?

Bus driving a protective is a scum claim

ha?

[Flubbernugget]

Like really. Jackal is cop cleared by a tracker cleared cop, and you still need moonlogic to clear Jackal. That really sinks your credibility.

Shouting down a gut read did what exactly?

[Flubbernugget]

VOTE: Blackstar

Let's pull him back in the game the same way he claims to have pulled Dave into it.

[RadiantCowbells]

Still think that FA is an adorable little scum.

[BlackStar]

I have my driving test today, so I probably won't be able to post that much.

[Frozen Angel]

Still think that FA is an adorable little scum.

Your still wrong , or scum

[Persivul]

I'm getting really nervous about flubber. Supposedly suspicious of Ranger all game, but doesn't vote her. A wagon starts on her, but he votes blackstar.

[Almost50]

Bus driving a protective is a scum claim

I'm not sure I understand. How does me stating I will make FA untargetable for a night kill sound scummy to you? Or am did I misunderstand your statement?

[davesaz]

Has anyone actually made a good push this game. People are forgetting to scumhunt to try and Crack the setup

Scum frustration at not being able to make a bogus case stick perhaps?

[Almost50]

Like really. Jackal is cop cleared by a tracker cleared cop, and you still need moonlogic to clear Jackal. That really sinks your credibility.

Shouting down a gut read did what exactly?

You guys keep mentioning the word "clearing" a lot. Well, nobody COMPLETELY cleared anyone through investigation per se.

The Cop only investigates Mafia/No Mafia in this game. The Role Cop reads the passive/active abilities. If you're relying solely on investigation results then you're walking down the wrong alley, and especially so when there are modifiers that can hinder results worthless.

[Almost50]

Upon my re-read of the first 27 pages only one thing stuck out to me:

My first draw was:

Mafia Bus Driver
Mafia Private Investigator
Rolecop

Of which I picked Mafia Rolecop.

Then this:

Everyone what do you Like to play ?

Town
3Party
Scum

I know its not alignment indicative. Just asking to organize my thoughts about your behavioral overall ...

And please write sentense about why you like that.

thx

Town. Preferably VT. Because it fits my style better.

Contraction observed:

He could've easily easily picked TOWN Bus Driver or TOWN Investigator from the first draw

, if he so prefers to be town aligned.

I -kind of- suspect he posted his SECOND draw cards & pick. Also his voting patterns are strange.

[Ranger]

This doesn't feel like Town!FA reaction right now.

If I'm being 100% honest, I can see FA as a benevolent third party like Survivor, but her reaction does not seem like her as scum either.

Gladiator can choose a target during day, then the lynch can only come from those two targets. It makes no sense for scum to take that role, and if we come to doubt him we can ask him to prove it by using it. That leaves Ranger. We need a wagon. Please join me.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Ranger

Blatantly false in every way. Scum have

every

incentive to choose the role, forcing a lynch onto a player of their choosing while proving they hold that role. Furthermore, my role is the only role that is 100% confirmable; if you track me, then you'll see me visiting a player already dead, something ONLY a coroner (as far as I know) is capable of.

[Frozen Angel]

If I'm being 100% honest, I can see FA as a benevolent third party like Survivor, but her reaction does not seem like her as scum either.

news : I discarded survivor

my other two cards were town