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Post Post #250 (ISO) » Fri Sep 28, 2007 3:33 pm

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Mod Post: Vote Count


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Also, day one has gone on quite long... I'll give you a few more days, and then a deadline (probably for October 15 or so) is likely.

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Post Post #251 (ISO) » Sat Sep 29, 2007 4:39 am

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Actually, screw pressuring the lurkers.
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Post Post #252 (ISO) » Sat Sep 29, 2007 5:30 am

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Post Post #253 (ISO) » Sat Sep 29, 2007 7:19 am

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:badvoting:

We should be voting crub.
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Post Post #254 (ISO) » Sat Sep 29, 2007 8:22 am

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I agree.

unvote, vote Crub
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Post Post #255 (ISO) » Sat Sep 29, 2007 9:10 am

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I admit it.
I would vote anybody except me right now.
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Post Post #256 (ISO) » Sun Sep 30, 2007 12:34 am

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gahdamn. Crub and Sammich are almost equally bad here.
Unvote Vote: crub
I prefer the company on that wagon (for one thing it doesn't have crub on it)
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Post Post #257 (ISO) » Sun Sep 30, 2007 11:13 am

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so how come the last two pages or so everyone is just unvoting/voting the two leaders and nothing is getting accomplished.

Also it'd be nice to hear people's thoughts on the two bandwagons
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Post Post #258 (ISO) » Sun Sep 30, 2007 2:47 pm

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Lemming1607 wrote:so how come the last two pages or so everyone is just unvoting/voting the two leaders and nothing is getting accomplished.

Also it'd be nice to hear people's thoughts on the two bandwagons
I think the Crub wagon is weak. And I'm not willing to put my vote on Sammich either. My prime candidate is actually Shanba. I find his play erratic and I don't like it.
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Post Post #259 (ISO) » Sun Sep 30, 2007 3:35 pm

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AlSleet wrote:
Lemming1607 wrote:so how come the last two pages or so everyone is just unvoting/voting the two leaders and nothing is getting accomplished.

Also it'd be nice to hear people's thoughts on the two bandwagons
I think the Crub wagon is weak. And I'm not willing to put my vote on Sammich either. My prime candidate is actually Shanba. I find his play erratic and I don't like it.
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Post Post #260 (ISO) » Sun Sep 30, 2007 5:13 pm

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why are you "not willing to put your vote on sammich"
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Post Post #261 (ISO) » Mon Oct 01, 2007 6:53 am

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[quote="Lemming1607]why are you "not willing to put your vote on sammich" [/quote]
Why are you suddenly so pressed on lynching me?
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Post Post #262 (ISO) » Mon Oct 01, 2007 11:21 am

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OK - my last post was 105 on Page 5. I'm reading from here.

Crub responds to my post. I'm not going to reply to it yet because the game has probably moved out of this stage, unless someone wants me to comment on something in particular.

Sir T would want to lynch YB because of policy. I have seen this discussion before in an ongoing game. My opinion is that policy lynches probably are a bad thing for the town.

Jex does a PBPA on Crub. He thinks Crub is slipping under the radar too much. Crub's reaction is that Jex has been inactive too. This is deflecting, not defending (as later pointed out by Samruc).

Simenon says the person he is voting for is not necessarily scummy. Later, he comes with a vote on Crub, and again he states no reasons.

Sammich replaces in and thinks EmpTyger is scum, votes him. He says "I'm sorry Emp" which sounds a bit weird.

Post 152 is Crub trying to respond to Jex's statement mentioned above. I'm not going to quote it here because all the quotes would make my post too long, but I recommend you to check it out by clicking the link - this post makes me want to vomit. Post 162 is another post without any defense and full of WIFOM. I think this is comparable to the appeal to emotion.

SirT asks whether anyone has played with Simenon before. I have, in the notorious Mini 431. I was a vig, he was scum. I thought his playstyle was weird, it was VERY hard to get a read on him. He managed to build good cases, though. I had a bad feeling about him, but couldn't give any proof for it. "Eccentric" would a good description, I think.

Lemming points out Simenon's weird playstyle. Simenon replies with "Lemming can be next."

Sir T points out Post 162 and is against Crub. I have completely lost track of the vote count in this stage of the game, and apparently so has Sir T, as he votes and then unvotes Crub.

Simenon conitnues the weird play. He says "I might just have a reason for my methodical bandwagoning". If you do, then why don't you just say it right away? Simenon keeps going the sarcastic way and, in my opinion, is making a fool of himself. In the Lemming-Simenon discussion, I have to
unvote: Lemming
. His reasoning seems solid and genuine.

Post 194 is a first decent post by Crub.

Simenon insists on not giving his reasons for his bandwagoning. He's looking bad, if you ask me, but Post 204 seems to be some kind of a turning point where he says he is experimenting and tries to attract opportunistic scum. Actually, what he is doing, is make himself look like opportunistic scum, and then you get to the "too scummy to be scum" argument as pointed out by Sir T one page earlier. If you go on with this point, a lot of WIFOM is going to get involved.

Shanba says Simenon doesn't deserve the 2-vote "wagon" on him.

Samruc makes a case against Sammich. It's a pity we can't abbreviate a nick to "Sam" in this game, btw.

Shanba,
why are you completely not considering Crub and Simenon in Post 217? At this stage, they seem to be the most likely lynch-candidates, but you seem to think it's more between Samruc and Sammich.

Sammich says he doesn't think Samruc is scum, which is a contradiction when compared to his FoS in his previous post. He points out a contradiction in Shanba's posts and votes him.

Simenon keeps up the weird play.

I don't think the case against Sammich is really big. There seems to be a lot of following involved. Sammich's case against Shanba wasn't too bad (it's not good either, but I don't consider it to be OMGUS like many do). I don't see Sammich as the most scummy player so far, at all.

Sammich: I see Lemming's question as very normal question, to be honest. Not every post with your name in it is trying to get you lynched.


My conclusions from this are: Simenon seems scummy, but I think this is more or less what he always does. I want to give him at least one more day before I want to see him lynched. That makes Crub my preferred lynch for today. He is at L-1 right now. I am refusing to hammer him though, because of this reason: I haven't been in this game for more than 2 weeks. You haven't been able to get a read on me, it's like I'm a replacement coming in. Whenever a replacement comes in and hammers someone, it's scummy no matter if the hammered player is town or scum.

I totally agree with the Crub lynch though, if it were to take place, so I'm not trying to escape the responsibility. The main thing I hold against Crub is his reactions to the small case that was made against him. Post 194 was decent, but why did he have to make 152 and 162 first, instead of being clear-minded from the beginning?
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Post Post #263 (ISO) » Mon Oct 01, 2007 11:43 am

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Actually, Crub is not at L-1.

Vote: Crub


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Post Post #264 (ISO) » Mon Oct 01, 2007 12:39 pm

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1. Actually, what he is doing, is make himself look like opportunistic scum, 2. and then you get to the "too scummy to be scum" argument as pointed out by Sir T one page earlier. If you go on with this point, a lot of WIFOM is going to get involved.

Where in the text can you back up the first argument and explain the logical connection the second. Or shut up. Thanks.

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Post Post #265 (ISO) » Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:40 pm

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ending this long ass day.

UNVOTE: Sammich VOTE: Crub
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Post Post #266 (ISO) » Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:43 pm

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woop woop
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Post Post #267 (ISO) » Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:53 pm

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Mod Post: End of Day Vote Count


Crub[6](Jex, Simenon, ChaosOmega, Shanba, Per, Lemming1607)
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Crub was really annoying. Like, seriously, come on. And he was standing
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All six of you grab him and bash his head through the machine. Wow, there's a lot of blood and cracked plastic.

Some Snickers bars fall out. Horray -- free Snickers! One thing you aren't so happy about is Crub's alignment.

Crub, townie, lynched day one
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Well, you all eat Snickers, and that makes you tired. You soon forget his brains splattered on the Plexiglas. Your full tummies from the Snickers make you very sleepy... So you sleep. Well, most of you.

Some of you stay up and talk, discussing who the killers might be. Some of you stay up and talk, discussing who to kill....

Day Two dawns in three days.
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Post Post #268 (ISO) » Thu Oct 04, 2007 12:46 pm

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You meet back at the rec center after a long night of sleep... but one of you is missing.

You go to their bed, and find them covered in Snickers -- they were suffocated with them. Dripping melted chocolate runs down their face and shirt. OH THE HUMANITY!

It was
Sir Tornado, townie, killed night one.


Grasping with the horror of the situation, you decide the best way to cope would be to kill another one of your member in hopes of eliminating a killer.

With nine alive it will take five to lynch.
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Post Post #269 (ISO) » Thu Oct 04, 2007 12:51 pm

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Vote Sammich


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Post Post #270 (ISO) » Thu Oct 04, 2007 12:54 pm

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Is that actually a change of playstyle?
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Post Post #271 (ISO) » Thu Oct 04, 2007 12:58 pm

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what.
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Post Post #272 (ISO) » Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:02 pm

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Simenon wrote:Vote Sammich

gogo go
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Post Post #273 (ISO) » Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:12 pm

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I'm going to make an analysis, starting off from when I replaced in.
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Post Post #274 (ISO) » Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:22 pm

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shameless filler post
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