Open 42 - Friends and Enemies - (Game Over) before 495

[Guardian]

Mod Post: Vote Count

Sammich[3](Simenon, Samruc, Shanba)
Shanba[1](Sammich)

Not Voting[5](AlSleet, Lemming1607, ChaosOmega, Jex, Per)

[Simenon]

Simenon: Are you happy now? Crub's dead, are you ready to try and kill Lemming?What are you going to do now that your Crublynch campaign backfired?

All of your questions say the same thing and try to accomplish the same purpose: to reinforce the fact that I was wrong.

However, I will answer them. Yes, I am happy that Crub is dead, unhappy that he turned out scum, but I'm rather convinced he would have been of no use anyway. No, I don't feel like lynching lemming, because I don't feel quite as badly about his as I did. The crublynch was bad I guess, but the only thing I can do now is focus my energy on lynching a scum.

Also, you said Lemming can be next. Are you still happy with that decision? Are we looking at another mislynch? I still find Lemming's hammer strange and somewhat scummy but if you're going to just go after the lynch like you did Crub then drop it right now.

More reinforcement. I am not happy with my decision, but rather content with it. Or rather, with the information that I had, I don't think I made a terrible vote. Your second question is silly for me to answer. And I don't respond to threats.

[Sammich]

However, I will answer them. Yes, I am happy that Crub is dead, unhappy that he turned out scum, but I'm rather convinced he would have been of no use anyway. No, I don't feel like lynching lemming, because I don't feel quite as badly about his as I did. The crublynch was bad I guess, but the only thing I can do now is focus my energy on lynching a scum.

I guess I relinquish my attack. It was day one, after all.
Besides this, could we get some insight from AlSleet? He's been under the radar/not posting as much lately.

[Lemming1607]

What if Sammich is scum, killed SirT so he could make it look like suspicion would be put on him, so he could accuse people for that?

But why would I kill SirT? He was one players least suspicious of me.

Let me emphasize my point. TALKING ABOUT WHY SCUM KILLED WHO THEY DID IS WIFOM.

[ChaosOmega]

Vote: AlSleet

Because he hasn't posted in 9 days, and I'd rather not put Sammich at L-1 yet, even though he's my first choice for scum right now.

[Lemming1607]

weird that your first post day 2 is to call out a lurker ChaosOmega

but I do agree that we need to hear from everyone before we lynch anyone. We need a record of people's thoughts for future vote analysis

[ChaosOmega]

Weird that you think that is my first Day 2 post.

But yes, I'd like to hear from more people as well.

[Lemming1607]

oh god you're right. :smacks forehead:

[Sammich]

BUMP DAMNIT

[Per]

I haven't really done much during D2 yet. More will come on Saturday.

[Jex]

Once again, I'm incredibly sorry about being lurky in this game. I'm responding to my prod. I did a full read through (well, a quick read through) so I am officially caught up now.

After my read through, the person that sticks out as the scummiest to me is Lemming. His hammer vote on day 1 really irks me. Its seems that the whole day he was going for sammich, but as soon as crub was at L-1 he went "i guess that works too" and then jumped on. I also find some of his arguments against Sammich a little weak.

I want to do a re read of both lemming and sammich, but for now I'm all readed out (and yes I just made up a word).

For now,

vote lemming

[Lemming1607]

As I've said for the hammer, I was just tired of the day and I found them both good options. We weren't getting anywhere, and the mod was threatening a deadline. I decided we'd gone on long enough and it was time to move the game forward.

I would like to know where you find my argument on sammich stretching though. He FoS'd 4 people, and there's 3 scum...that's blatant spaghetti strategy

[Jex]

As I've said for the hammer, I was just tired of the day and I found them both good options. We weren't getting anywhere, and the mod was threatening a deadline. I decided we'd gone on long enough and it was time to move the game forward.

I would like to know where you find my argument on sammich stretching though. He FoS'd 4 people, and there's 3 scum...that's blatant spaghetti strategy

While there are only 3 mafia members, there are still 10 possible mafia (9 if one doesn't count themself). Sammich FOSed people for the reasons he found them suspicious. He wanted answers. I don't see anything wrong with that. If he were to simply lay a vote on, then he would have to flop around to get all the answers he wanted instead of just doing it all in one post. I know I tend to do that type of a thing a lot, and I don't see it as scummy.

P.S. - I'm by no means saying I don't think Sammich is scummy, I'm just saying I don't think that particular strategy is scummy.

[Shanba]

As I've said for the hammer, I was just tired of the day and I found them both good options. We weren't getting anywhere, and the mod was threatening a deadline. I decided we'd gone on long enough and it was time to move the game forward.

I would like to know where you find my argument on sammich stretching though. He FoS'd 4 people, and there's 3 scum...that's blatant spaghetti strategy

While there are only 3 mafia members, there are still 10 possible mafia (9 if one doesn't count themself). Sammich FOSed people for the reasons he found them suspicious. He wanted answers. I don't see anything wrong with that. If he were to simply lay a vote on, then he would have to flop around to get all the answers he wanted instead of just doing it all in one post. I know I tend to do that type of a thing a lot, and I don't see it as scummy.

P.S. - I'm by no means saying I don't think Sammich is scummy, I'm just saying I don't think that particular strategy is scummy.

Eh. You made the point I wanted to make myself about his FoSses (i.e. that to a townie is possible scum), but I would note that the questios he asked and the way he asked them is scummy, and is one of the reasons I am pursuing him.

[Sammich]

Eh. You made the point I wanted to make myself about his FoSses (i.e. that to a townie is possible scum), but I would note that the questios he asked and the way he asked them is scummy, and is one of the reasons I am pursuing him.

And how would they be scummy?

[Shanba]

1: the question you asked me was loaded.
2: the first question you asked Simenon was loaded. The second question you asked Simenon was manipulative in that it tries to pre-empt any attacks he makes on you today as scummy. Actually, this applies to the question you asked me too.
3: the question you asked Lemming you provided an answer in the question itself, thus stripping it of any worth, when it could have been a useful avenue of exploration today.

[Simenon]

I'll try to get back to this, I'm being incredibly lazy.

[Shanba]

happy scumday

[Simenon]

Wow, I can't believe I've wasted that much time here. It's shocking.

[Jex]

1: the question you asked me was loaded.
2: the first question you asked Simenon was loaded. The second question you asked Simenon was manipulative in that it tries to pre-empt any attacks he makes on you today as scummy. Actually, this applies to the question you asked me too.
3: the question you asked Lemming you provided an answer in the question itself, thus stripping it of any worth, when it could have been a useful avenue of exploration today.

You make a good point. I guess I was mostly just paying attention to the questions he asked me, which was a good question to ask.

[Sammich]

Didn't Per say he would post today?

Mod: Prod AlSleet pl0x

Mod Edit: He was prodded a few days ago

Before I lurkerlynch him or something.

[Simenon]

In Simenon's TooMuchScum, ALSleet lurked before eventually asking for a replacement.

Unvote
Vote ALSleet

[Guardian]

Phate replaces AlSleet (who failed to pick up his prod). Welcome him .

[Phate]

Hello. I'm Phate, replacing AlSleet, who failed to pick up his prod. Welcome me.

[Lemming1607]

I welcome you Phate, who is replacing AlSleet, and forgot to pick up his prod