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Post Post #675 (ISO) » Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:21 am

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EBWOP:
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Post Post #676 (ISO) » Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:28 am

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Vote Count


BrianMcQueso: 1 (Erg0)
Erg0: 1 (distad)

Not voting: Cogito Ergo Sum, BrianMcQueso

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Post Post #677 (ISO) » Thu Oct 11, 2007 6:47 am

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Erg0: Just out of curiosity, how would you explain the lack of nightkill?

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Post Post #678 (ISO) » Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:12 am

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Well, that guilty result combined with Ergo accusing Brian certainly makes things a lot easier.

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Post Post #679 (ISO) » Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:19 am

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I'm assuming you got innocent, CES?
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Post Post #680 (ISO) » Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:25 am

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Yep. So that makes me naive. I have innocent results on everyone alive.
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Post Post #681 (ISO) » Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:35 am

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It just occurred to me... Lots of confusion is possible in a game feating Erg0 and Cogito
Ergo
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Post Post #682 (ISO) » Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:39 am

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EBWOP: featuring. <guh>
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Post Post #683 (ISO) » Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:59 am

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distad wrote:It just occurred to me... Lots of confusion is possible in a game feating Erg0 and Cogito
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I kinda noticed that 28 pages ago. :P

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Post Post #684 (ISO) » Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:02 am

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Well, if we need the extra day, we're probably FUBAR. Still, you're next on my list, also.
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Post Post #685 (ISO) » Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:06 am

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I wish I was blocking Cogito tonight; a naive cop is a scummier role, and his behavior has been scummier relative to distad's.

Nevertheless, I think it's all moot.
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Post Post #686 (ISO) » Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:54 am

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Jeesh. Way to wait for a response, guys.

It hadn't occurred to you that maybe BMQ does something other than block?
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Post Post #687 (ISO) » Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:55 am

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I was *WAY* more than comfortable with my guilty result on you.
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Post Post #688 (ISO) » Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:02 am

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You people are so narrow minded. :P
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Post Post #689 (ISO) » Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:50 am

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distad wrote:It just occurred to me... Lots of confusion is possible in a game feating Erg0 and Cogito
Ergo
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I noticed that shortly after I joined the site, and considered re-registering under a different name, but once I realised that everyone referred to him as CES I figured there wasn't likely to be too much confusion.
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Post Post #690 (ISO) » Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:32 pm

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Vote Count


Erg0: 3 (distad, BrianMcQueso, CES)

BrianMcQueso: 1 (Erg0)
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Post Post #691 (ISO) » Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:35 pm

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The Denouement
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"I've found our killer!" calls out Police Officer distad. "I've been down my list methodically, and it turns out that Erg0 is purest evil!"

BrianMcQueso and Cogito Ergo Sum have no cause to disagree, and waste no time in stringing up the last malefactor. And with that, the peaceful, methodical town of Metodico is safe again!


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Erg0 -
Mafia
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GAME OVER: Town wins!
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Post Post #692 (ISO) » Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:44 pm

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The Setup


Players
(survived):
  • BrianMcQueso - Roleblocker
  • Cogito Ergo Sum - Naive Cop
  • distad - Sane Cop
Players
(dead):
  • Seol - Insane Cop - Methodically murdered night 1
  • LoudmouthLee - Nightwatchman - Randomly slain night 1
  • Simenon (replaced Vampaneze Hunter) - Townie - Lynched day 1
  • Glork - Doc - Methodically murdered night 2
  • Xdaamno -
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    - Randomly slain night 2
  • Nocmen -
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    - Lynched day 2
  • VitaminR (replaced ojpower) - Townie - Randomly slain night 3
  • Mr. Flay -
    Serial Killer
    - Lynched day 3
  • Erg0-
    Mafia
    - Lynched day 4
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ERG0, NOCMEN, XDAAMNORole:
Mafia
. The Mafia in this game comprises Erg0, Nocmen and Xdaamno.

As a team, you may kill one person each night and track one person each night (to see whom they target). You must therefore submit 4 lists to me during Night 1: a list of those you want to kill, a list of who will do the killing each night, a list of those you want to track, and a list of who will do the tracking. The same Mafia member may kill and track on the same night. You may kill and track the same person. The killer and tracker lists work just like the other lists in this game.

You may talk to each other privately, during Day 0 and up until the end of Night 1. No talking outside the thread after that!

You win when the only players left in the game are Mafia.


MR. FLAYRole:
Serial Killer
.

You may kill one person each night. You must send me a list of those you want to kill during Night 1.

You have a one-time nightkill immunity; and you will appear to be innocent to any Cop.

You win when all other players are dead (even if you are also dead).

PS: It might help you to know that there are lots of Cops in this game, with varying sanities. They all have the following role PM:
Role:
Cop
.

You may investigate someone each night. I will tell you whether they are “Mafia or Cult” or “Not Mafia or Cult”. You must send me a list of those you want to investigate during Night 1. Your own name may not appear on your list.

You win when all Mafia, Werewolves, Serial Killers, Cults, Traitors, Evil Robots and other bad guys have been killed.


BRIANMCQUESORole:
Roleblocker
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You may block one person each night, preventing them from carrying out their night-time activity, if any. You must send me a list of those you want to block during Night 1.

You win when all Mafia, Werewolves, Serial Killers, Cults, Traitors, Evil Robots and other bad guys have been killed.


GLORKRole:
Doctor
.

You may protect someone each night, thereby preventing them from being killed or recruited. You must send me a list of those you want to protect during Night 1. Your own name may appear once on your list.

You win when all Mafia, Werewolves, Serial Killers, Cults, Traitors, Evil Robots and other bad guys have been killed.


DISTAD, SEOL, COGITO ERGO SUMRole:
Cop
.

You may investigate someone each night. I will tell you whether they are “Mafia or Cult” or “Not Mafia or Cult”. You must send me a list of those you want to investigate during Night 1. Your own name may not appear on your list.

You win when all Mafia, Werewolves, Serial Killers, Cults, Traitors, Evil Robots and other bad guys have been killed.


LOUDMOUTHLEERole:
Night Watchman
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You may watch someone each night, and you will see who targets that person. You must send me a list of those you want to watch during Night 1. Your own name may appear once on your list.

You win when all Mafia, Werewolves, Serial Killers, Cults, Traitors, Evil Robots and other bad guys have been killed.


VITAMINR (replcaed ojpower), SIMENON (replaced Vampaneze Hunter)Role:
Townie
.

You win when all Mafia, Werewolves, Serial Killers, Cults, Traitors, Evil Robots and other bad guys have been killed.
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Post Post #693 (ISO) » Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:02 pm

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Night choices


This is how the night choices worked out. I processed choices in the order given below. I informed everyone of what they had done each night, including informing all Mafia members of the Tracker's result.

If you want to see everyone's lists, see the next post.

Night 1
:

BrianMcQueso blocked Simenon
Glork protected himself
distad investigated Mr. Flay (Not Mafia or Cult)
Seol investigated LoudmouthLee (Mafia or Cult)
Cogito Ergo Sum investigated VitaminR (Not Mafia or Cult)
Nocmen kill Seol
Xdaamno tracked BrianMcQueso
Mr. Flay killed LoudmouthLee
LoudmouthLee watched Glork

Night 2
:

BrianMcQueso blocked Xdaamno
Glork protected Erg0
distad investigated Glork (Not Mafia or Cult)
Cogito Ergo Sum investigated BrianMcQueso (Not Mafia or Cult)
Erg0 killed Glork
Xdaamno tried to track Mr. Flay (blocked)
Mr. Flay killed Xdaamno

Night 3
:

BrianMcQueso blocked VitaminR
distad investigated VitaminR (Not Mafia or Cult)
Cogito Ergo Sum investigated distad (Not Mafia or Cult)
Erg0 tried to kill Mr. Flay (failed because of his 1-shot immunity)
Erg0 tracked Cogito Ergo Sum
Mr. Flay killed VitaminR

Night 4
:

BrianMcQueso blocked Erg0
distad investigated Erg0 (Mafia or Cult)
Cogito Ergo Sum investigated Erg0 (Not Mafia or Cult)
Erg0 tried to kill distad (blocked)
Ergo tried to track distad (blocked)
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Post Post #694 (ISO) » Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:08 pm

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Lists


BrianMcQueso (Roleblocker)
:

Simenon <---N1
Xdaamno <---N2
VitaminR <---N3
Seol
Nocmen
Mr. Flay
LoudmouthLee
Glork
Erg0 <---N4
distad
Cogito Ergo Sum

Glork (Doctor)
:

Glork <---N1
LoudmouthLee
LoudmouthLee
Erg0 <---N2
Brian McQueso
Nocmen
Cogito Ergo Sum
LoudmouthLee
distad
VitaminR
Mr. Flay
LoudmouthLee
Erg0
BrianMcQueso
Seol
Xdaamno
LoudmouthLee
Xdaamno
VitaminR
Cogito Ergo Sum

distad (Sane Cop)
:

Mr. Flay <---N1 (Not Mafia or Cult)
Glork <---N2 (Not Mafia or Cult)
Nocmen
VitaminR <---N3 (Not Mafia or Cult)
Seol
Xdaamno
LoudmouthLee
Erg0 <---N4 (Mafia or Cult)
Brian McQueso
Simenon
Cogito Ergo Sum

Seol (Paranoid Cop)
:

LoudmouthLee <---N1 (Mafia or Cult)
BrianMcQueso
VitaminR
Mr. Flay
Glork
Cogito Ergo Sum
Erg0
distad
Xdaammo
Nocmen
Simenon

Cogito Ergo Sum (Naive Cop)
:

VitaminR <---N1 (Not Mafia or Cult)
BrianMcQueso <---N2 (Not Mafia or Cult)
Glrok
distad <---N3 (Not Mafia or Cult)
Mr. Flay
Xdaamno
Erg0 <---N4 (Not Mafia or Cult)
Nocmen
Simenon
Seol
LoudmouthLee
Glrok
Mr. Flay
Seol
distad

The Mafia
: see next post

Mr. Flay (Serial Killer)
:

LoudmouthLee <---N1
Seol
Seol
LoudmouthLee
Xdaamno <---N2
LoudmouthLee
VitaminR (replaced ojpower) <---N3
Nocmen
distad
Simenon (replaced Vampaneze Hunter)
Cogito Ergo Sum
Erg0
Xdaamno
Seol
LoudmouthLee
VitaminR (replaced ojpower)
BrianMcQueso
Cogito Ergo Sum
Glork
VitaminR (replaced ojpower)

LoudmouthLee (Nightwatchman)
:

Glork <---N1
LoudmouthLee
Seol
Mr. Flay
Glork
Seol
Mr. Flay
Glork
Seol
Mr. Flay
BrianMcQueso
Erg0
Glork
Seol
Mr. Flay
BrianMcQueso
Glork
Seol
Mr. Flay
Erg0
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Post Post #695 (ISO) » Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:11 pm

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The Mafia's Lists


As you can see from their Role PMs above, the Mafia had to submit 4 lists. Here they were:

Kill List
:

Seol <---N1 (killed by Nocmen)
Glork <---N2 (killed by Erg0)
Mr. Flay <---N3 (attempted kill by Erg0)
distad <---N4 (attempted kill by Erg0)
Seol
Mr. Flay
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VitaminR
Vampaneeze Hunter
CES
Glork
Mr. Flay
Seol
distad
BrianMcQueso
distad
CES
Vampaneeze Hunter
Glork
VitaminR

Killer List
:

Nocmen <---N1 (killed Seol)
Erg0 <---N2 (killed Glork)
Nocmen
Erg0 <---N3 (attempted to kill Mr. Flay)
Nocmen
Erg0 <---N4 (attempted to kill distad)
Nocmen
Erg0
Nocmen
Erg0
Nocmen
Erg0
Nocmen
Erg0
Nocmen
Erg0
Nocmen
Erg0
Nocmen
Xdaamno

Track List
:

BrianMcQueso <---N1
Mr. Flay <---N2 (blocked)
Seol
Glork
Simenon
Cogito Ergo Sum <---N3
distad <---N4 (blocked)
LoudmouthLee
VitaminR
BrianMcQueso
Mr. Flay
Seol
Glork
Simenon
Cogito Ergo Sum
distad
LoudmouthLee
VitaminR
BrianMcQueso
Mr. Flay

Tracker List
:

Xdaamno <---N1 (tracked BrianMcQueso to Simenon)
Xdaamno <---N2 (blocked)
Xdaamno
Xdaamno
Xdaamno
Xdaamno
Xdaamno
Xdaamno
Xdaamno
Xdaamno
Erg0 <---N3 (tracked CES to distad)
Nocmen
Erg0 <---N4 (blocked)
Nocmen
Erg0
Nocmen
Erg0
Nocmen
Erg0
Nocmen
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Post Post #696 (ISO) » Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:17 pm

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Thoughts from the Mod
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I enjoyed designing this game, which I did with a lot of help from Amb - thanks! We enjoyed thinking of various ways to discourage claims: hints of Cults and of a non-Methodical killer, safe claims for the Mafia and the SK, and multiple cops to discourage "follow the cop".

It was fun trying to work out the permutations of various lynch choices in advance. For example, I worked out that if the Town had lynched VitaminR day 2, as they nearly did, then the SK would have killed Nocmen (Mafia) and the Sane Cop would have investigated Nocmen, thereby confirming his sanity. Also, the Roleblocker would have prevented Nocmen from killing the SK, saving the SK's one-shot immunity. In the end the Town lynched Nocmen, which was probably an even better result.

Similarly, I worked out early on Day 3 that lynching Mr. Flay would virtually guarantee a town win: no kill due to BrianMcQueso blocking Erg0, and both cops would investigating Erg0: thereby making clear that distad was sane and CES naive and that Erg0 was the last scumbag.

It was also lucky for the Town that VitaminR died night 3 -- not only was he already a major suspect, but he was role-blocked, and so the Town might have thought that that was why there was no "Methodical Murder" that night.
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Post Post #697 (ISO) » Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:33 pm

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Wow. Nice job. Yea, I really got stupid Day 2. Basically, I was trying to play off against Erg0 as much as I could (told you he was scum) and then right near the end realized how futile it would be to lynch my scum-buddy and open up right for the SK kill that night if possible. After that, I also knew that BMQ was a power role, so I tried to go after him, which brought more suspicion. It was the day I got lynched I came up with an ultimatum, which was to play off CES as the SK. However, I didn't expect one thing: CES to return and hammer. Also, some of the lists are amusing to read.

I will post my feelings on this methodical style later on after class.
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Post Post #698 (ISO) » Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:13 am

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I cannot believe it took you guys that long to lynch Erg0.


I can *almost* understand lynching Simenon (even though from my perspective, he was obviously protown). But seriously -- why did
nobody
even bother reviewing the case I put together against Erg0?

I should also point out that both players who went "Huh?" over the randomkill were scum, as I indicated. Go go JeepTells!

Anyway, I'm glad you guys didn't blow it for me. :P
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Post Post #699 (ISO) » Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:42 am

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AAAAAARRRRRRRGGGHHHHHHH!!!


I'll have more later. Right now I'm ticked.

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