Mini 508- Trouble in New Catania-Game Over

[Rishi]

I think that Lowell's actions were marginally scummy. I think, knowing that he was about to be lynched, he made some kind of effort, posting his analysis of the game. The main argument against him was that he wasn't being helpful. So he actually tried to be helpful.

His attitude is a little flippant. The "now unvote me" comment almost made me want to drop the hammer. But, even if we don't like his reasoning or tone, he did make more of an effort to participate. So, I think it's too soon for a lynch.

[Lowell]

Wait, Lowell, in one post you've accused me of being too aggressive against BMQ and against Claus, and then you say I'm playing it conservative? Which is it?

Both, now that you mention it.

Hence the suspicion. That's called opportunism.

[CrashTextDummie]

I've slaved several hours over this game in order to get up to speed, and now I'm too exhausted to post an elaborate analysis. Here's a brief preview though:

1. The Lowell bandwagon is rotten. I don't find him particularly suspicious, and I find the size and speed of his bandwagon entirely disproportionate.
2. Hi, LML.
3. Kuribo is scummy.

Unvote (if necessary), Vote: Kuribo

[rite]

Here's a brief preview though:

1. The Lowell bandwagon is rotten. I don't find him particularly suspicious, and I find the size and speed of his bandwagon entirely disproportionate.
*snip*
3. Kuribo is scummy.

Details on each of these, please? To me, for reasons previously stated, it seems entirely obvious that Lowell has been giving off a nearly overpowering scum vibe. More importantly, back up your Kuribo claims

[kuribo]

I've slaved several hours over this game in order to get up to speed, and now I'm too exhausted to post an elaborate analysis. Here's a brief preview though:

1. The Lowell bandwagon is rotten. I don't find him particularly suspicious, and I find the size and speed of his bandwagon entirely disproportionate.
2. Hi, LML.
3. Kuribo is scummy.

Unvote (if necessary), Vote: Kuribo

What do you find scummy about me? I've laid out my case against Lowell several times, and he has not cared to comment either way. I'm clearly not the only one that finds his behavior scummy. Lowell's "opportunism" argument against me is shaky at best.

The size and speed of his bandwagon? Please. It's been going on for at least three pages, and has carried us up to about a week and a half before our imposed deadline. Lowell's evasiveness only serves to hasten that deadline, and we all know that only scum benefits from a no-lynch. If he's town, he could absolutely be more helpful. As for the size, in case you haven't noticed, the "bandwagon" hasn't exactly been a runaway freight train.

[LoudmouthLee]

I've slaved several hours over this game in order to get up to speed, and now I'm too exhausted to post an elaborate analysis. Here's a brief preview though:

1. The Lowell bandwagon is rotten. I don't find him particularly suspicious, and I find the size and speed of his bandwagon entirely disproportionate.
2. Hi, LML.
3. Kuribo is scummy.

Unvote (if necessary), Vote: Kuribo

Hey sexy!

[Beastly]

Looking at Kuribo he seems awfully eager to lynch someone this early. Page 6 is a quick day by my estimation of other day ones.

Lowell isn't particularly impressing me, but I'm certainly not viewing him as the biggest scum looking guy about. I find his bold statements pretty weird such as "Stree is town" etc.

For now I'm more concerned with the way Kuribo is looking to push the wagon further, almost pleading with someone to hammer Lowell.

Vote Kuribo

[Lowell]

Yeah okay.

unvote, vote kuribo

[kuribo]

Lowell's insistence that Claus is town without giving any reasoning whatsoever was suspicious, as was his unhelpfulness toward scumhunting.

It's no surprise to me that both Lowell and Claus would vote against me--- they've been quite clearly standing up for one another since the very beginning.

Beastly surprised me a bit, but looking back, Beastly, you've done an awful lot of what seemed to be "lurking," and yet you still managed to appear on Claus' "Nice List."

Listen, fact is, I *KNOW* I'm town. And those of you that are scum know that I'm town too.

Anyway, if I seem ready to lynch, it's because A) we're rapidly approaching a deadline and B) we've found what seems to be the prime candidate for lynching. The scum would love nothing better than to deadlock this thing into a no-lynch.

Even if we're wrong by lynching Lowell, we'll still be able to find out his allegiance one way or another and analyze the events of the day armed with that knowledge.

[Lowell]

Okay I'm getting newbie-town vibes from kuribo. From beastly as well.

unvote

I guess I'll read back to find someone else to vote.

kuribo, your "we're getting close to deadline, he's a prime candidate" is not a great reason. If this is town behavior, it's not very helpful. We get much MORE out of having MULTIPLE candidates and forcing people to choose between them. You're doing scum's job for them.

[Happiest Sadist]

-77 meaningless post by Happy accusing Lowell, but doesn't vote (looks bad due to timing, as if he's trying to fit in)

This is inaccurate, in post 77 I did vote for you Lowell.

Also Lowell, you have hardly explained why you were so certain that Kuribo & Stree were scum. Before you did it without giving reasons (which is not cool.) Now the reasons you have given seem very weak (Kuribo made a premature comment on a bandwagon and Stree referenced other games.) It almost seems you are making an ex post facto justification for your behavior.

[Lowell]

I'm not certain. I just believe/d they were.

Do you want me to equivocate more? Is that your problem with me??

[The Fonz]

A reminder that there is no current deadline

.

[death_omen]

Lowell's insistence that Claus is town without giving any reasoning whatsoever was suspicious, as was his unhelpfulness toward scumhunting.

It's no surprise to me that both Lowell and Claus would vote against me--- they've been quite clearly standing up for one another since the very beginning.

Beastly surprised me a bit, but looking back, Beastly, you've done an awful lot of what seemed to be "lurking," and yet you still managed to appear on Claus' "Nice List."

Listen, fact is, I *KNOW* I'm town. And those of you that are scum know that I'm town too.

Anyway, if I seem ready to lynch, it's because A) we're rapidly approaching a deadline and B) we've found what seems to be the prime candidate for lynching. The scum would love nothing better than to deadlock this thing into a no-lynch.

Even if we're wrong by lynching Lowell, we'll still be able to find out his allegiance one way or another and analyze the events of the day armed with that knowledge.

Look sometimes its better to say what you wish in that post you seemed to be bursting out to say something yet did not say it. Well now that we dont have a current deadline (read mods post above mine) we can totally disregard one of your points as for point b Im not really sure anymore that Lowell is the one we need to lynch. With no deadline approaching why not think it through a bit?

Fos:Kuribo

[LoudmouthLee]

Why is Lowell's vote hopping and all around jumpiness being vastly ignored?

I'm shocked and apalled.

[Lowell]

Why is Lowell's vote hopping and all around jumpiness being vastly ignored?

Because I'm awesome.

Did everyone hear the mod? No deadline. Let's at least PRETEND to look at other lynch candidates besides me.

[LoudmouthLee]

Why is Lowell's vote hopping and all around jumpiness being vastly ignored?

Because I'm awesome.

Did everyone hear the mod? No deadline. Let's at least PRETEND to look at other lynch candidates besides me.

@CTD: You still think the Lowell wagon smells bad? I think it's him.

[Rishi]

You know, LML just jumped back into the spotlight for me. I know I was suspicious of him early on. Then he started acting more town-ish, but now he's very single-mindedly trying to push for a Lowell lynch.

I'm putting my vote back.

Vote: LML

Fonz

- Vote count, please?

[LoudmouthLee]

@Rishi, you don't think that Lowell's votehopping is suspect? I'm making a case. I think it's a good one.

[Rishi]

@Rishi, you don't think that Lowell's votehopping is suspect? I'm making a case. I think it's a good one.

I won't say that the vote-hopping isn't suspicious, but you have been vote-hopping a heck of a lot more than Lowell.

[LoudmouthLee]

Actually, my vote on Lowell has been stagnant for a more than a week and a half now.

[Lowell]

If you'd actually like a defense, LML-- No, I don't think votehopping is scummy. Or bad. In fact I think a lot of towns would do a lot better by themselves by getting legitimate bandwagons on more people more often on D1. Attacking just one person makes it waaay to easy for scum to hide their votes.

[The Fonz]

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Lowell 6 (rite, Happiest Sadist, kuribo, BrianMcQueso, LoudMouthLee, someone2)
kuribo 2 (CTD, Beastly)
LoudMouthLee 1 (Rishi)

Not voting: death_omen, Streeflo, Lowell

[someone2]

Sorry for my inactivity of these last days...

Today I won<t have time to post content. Gonna post my thoughts tomorrow

[Lowell]

Sorry for my inactivity of these last days...

Today I won<t have time to post content. Gonna post my thoughts tomorrow

At least you have time to lynch me...