STEVEN UNIVERSE 2 - GAME OVER

[MathBlade]

Farside, stop with making this personal. You see how most everyone didn't Unvote Cakey. There is a reason why that happened. It's not because I am in a crazy unreasonable tunnel but Cakey is actually scum. Do you think that grapes, Mastina, nc, McMenno, Kraska, and myself are all in an unreasonable tunnel?

We're all processing the information in our own way. This total myopic defense of Cakey merely because I believe he is scum is why I don't trust you to listen to what I am saying. The sea of discredits plus you destroying a total limitation on scum and not making certain players BP is antitown as fuck.

Even if you think I am nuts, you have systemically ignored everyone else thinking Cakey is scum and why they say it. It gives off a "this is personal" vibe and that stings. It also suggests you are the one not listening. Almost at least realizes that he bungled his claim and is giving me time to sort through that.

I really don't like how you're attacking Almost here as well. He's made a mistake under either interpretation of honest Scum Cakey or lying scum Cakey. Being wrong and holding onto that belief until evidence contradicts it isn't crazy. This whole manta you have of attacking players sanity to discredit them when they disagree with you is ridiculous, toxic and it needs to stop Day 2.

You only care about those that agree with you.

Thank you for that proof.

I'm not even attcking A50. Not even close.
There is like a ton of difference between nc and you.
They are trying to figure players out. They are engaging with the scum read to clarify.
They are actual seeing more truth then you.
Seriously all you basically said is town need to work together but not once did you try to understand someone else's POV and think for a second there view might be right and you might be wrong.
There is a difference too.
I already think grapes is scum.

Farside22 I would want to ally with.
Thefuzzylogic99 I think is scum which is rather disheartening as in order for my power to work besides special times I have to be in an alliance with him.

I am beginning to wonder if this is a game where Titus actually broke meta and bussed.

[MathBlade]

Still reading will do so after work but that jumped out at me after reading SirCakes ISO in a couple of spots.

[Almost50]

.....

Cause it doesn't like, one thought contradicts the other.

1 says: This person has a point let!s vote with them
Then says: This person is right that person a doesn't have a point so let's vote (Eveb though I believed they had a point)

You're either missing the part where people can change their minds.
Or don't want to consider it.

That's not changing one's mind. This is flip flopping.

You can change your mind and see something you didn't take notice of before, sure. But you don't call your previous view weak and you don't vote those who shared it merely because they did share it with you.

I mean, the case on me was weak sauce, granted. But if Creature is suspecting Shiro based on that; he might as well be voting himself for following it.

[Titus]

Peridot isn't one of the "good" Gems.

Peridot is corrupted.

I'll be honest: I'm not sure if Peridot is good, bad or neutral. I'm not even sure if it's a separate role/spot.

A Google search does not indicate corruption.

[Almost50]

Peridot joined the crystal gems and since doc ruby was a flavour this game takes part in that part in the late part of the timeline. Peridot is w crystal gem.

Although I'm leaning that way, I'd just want to say we don't KNOW that. Not yet, anyway. According to the wiki Peridot was a Homeworld Gem that defied their leader and later on joined the Crystal Gems. That would suggest she might be a Crystal Gem, yes.. but she might not. You do know how Varsoon messes with his roles, so be careful what you assume.

[Titus]

@Math, why does 464 happen if you have to be in an alliance with Seraphim/Fuzzy for your role to work?

[Not Chara]

Peridot isn't corrupted. Almost50's research is correct, though.

[Titus]

So why would Klingon say otherwise?

[Not Chara]

a misunderstanding of what being a villain in Steven Universe is. unless Peridot was somehow corrupted through the course of this game and Klingon knows it. but that seems incredibly unlikely.

[Titus]

It seems more likely than Klingon contradicting wiki's reasonlessly.

What do you think of Math's latest posting? What do they tell you about scum?

[TheWayItEnds]

hm. i remember TWIE responding to a request for content with snark, and i don't think they responded to my comment about it.

Im sure that first statement is true because i respond to most things with snark.

i dont recall ignoring a follow up comment and your iso is 3 pages long

[Not Chara]

Titus, i'll answer you later. i haven't really read Math.

TWIE: you're right. i don't think i ever made a followup. i might have just thought about doing it. but Cerb did, later. asking you for some useful input.

[TheWayItEnds]

yeah but that was cerb asking.

and he got another snarky answer because he was the one asking.

[Almost50]

@Klingoncelt

Peridot joined the crystal gems and since doc ruby was a flavour this game takes part in that part in the late part of the timeline. Peridot is w crystal gem.
Corrupt is actually something she has never been. She was a homeworld gem not a corrupt one. Corrupt ones are monsters.

A50 is claiming Crystal Gem?

Can you PLEASE stop ROLE FISHING and try to SCUM HUNT? I claimed nothing of the sort.

[farside22]

As for you second point

He was scumreading me for lurking

Sumlurk read to anything when the lurking person starts posting is bloody normal.

Who was scum reading you for lurking?
Also I don't see how you responded to my question.
Why did day 1 creature switch not get noted and was mocking worthy?

What makes no sense for town?

Let me try once more:

Creature scum reads Shiro (1)
Creature sheeps Shiro into voting Almost (2)
Creature sheeps farside into voting Shiro (whom he was sheeping into voting almost after having had Shiro in his scum reads). (3)
Creature calls Shiro's case on Almost weak. That same case he himself had sheeped despite his initial scum read on Shiro. (4)

The above don't make much sense. Weak case = you don't follow, and especially so if the case is being made by a scum read of yours both BEFORE and AFTER. If you do follow the case; you don't come around and call it weak and make THAT your reason to vote the person you sheeped on said case.

Okay this I get, I'm going to recheck because I thought all creature said was he liked meta.

[farside22]

Farside, stop with making this personal. You see how most everyone didn't Unvote Cakey. There is a reason why that happened. It's not because I am in a crazy unreasonable tunnel but Cakey is actually scum. Do you think that grapes, Mastina, nc, McMenno, Kraska, and myself are all in an unreasonable tunnel?

We're all processing the information in our own way. This total myopic defense of Cakey merely because I believe he is scum is why I don't trust you to listen to what I am saying. The sea of discredits plus you destroying a total limitation on scum and not making certain players BP is antitown as fuck.

Even if you think I am nuts, you have systemically ignored everyone else thinking Cakey is scum and why they say it. It gives off a "this is personal" vibe and that stings. It also suggests you are the one not listening. Almost at least realizes that he bungled his claim and is giving me time to sort through that.

I really don't like how you're attacking Almost here as well. He's made a mistake under either interpretation of honest Scum Cakey or lying scum Cakey. Being wrong and holding onto that belief until evidence contradicts it isn't crazy. This whole manta you have of attacking players sanity to discredit them when they disagree with you is ridiculous, toxic and it needs to stop Day 2.

You only care about those that agree with you.

Thank you for that proof.

I'm not even attcking A50. Not even close.
There is like a ton of difference between nc and you.
They are trying to figure players out. They are engaging with the scum read to clarify.
They are actual seeing more truth then you.
Seriously all you basically said is town need to work together but not once did you try to understand someone else's POV and think for a second there view might be right and you might be wrong.
There is a difference too.
I already think grapes is scum.

Farside22 I would want to ally with.
Thefuzzylogic99 I think is scum which is rather disheartening as in order for my power to work besides special times I have to be in an alliance with him.

I am beginning to wonder if this is a game where Titus actually broke meta and bussed.

Wow I forgot how frustrated I got.
I don't know Titus meta that well I haven't checked but all I have is our last game where she replaced and did pretty much nothing but sheep to this aggressive over the top abbressive attitude.
Shrug.

yeah but that was cerb asking.

and he got another snarky answer because he was the one asking.

Aren't you a ball of info.
You join this game to play or just fill a spot?
I'm just curious if you at some point will say something about reads at all.

[Almost50]

Shiro, Almost50

- are you guys claiming Crystal Gems?

I'm not. Are you?

[MathBlade]

@Math, why does 464 happen if you have to be in an alliance with Seraphim/Fuzzy for your role to work?

Cooldog was mentioning being ascetic.
Which I am if hit with non factional abilities at climax which I think is night.
I was referring to my main ability which would be dumb to trigger every night.

Will full claim when I get home

@Farside -- Are you forgetting about when Titus went "Baaah Farside" in the last game we were in?

[farside22]

@Math, why does 464 happen if you have to be in an alliance with Seraphim/Fuzzy for your role to work?

Cooldog was mentioning being ascetic.
Which I am if hit with non factional abilities at climax which I think is night.
I was referring to my main ability which would be dumb to trigger every night.

Will full claim when I get home

@Farside -- Are you forgetting about when Titus went "Baaah Farside" in the last game we were in?

As I said sheeping the last game we were in.
Her saying she doesn't sheep was one thing that struck me but day 1 was an emotional Rollercoaster.

I'm feeling good about Sera and fuzzy replaced the spot.
If you need fuzzy you may want to go there.

[Shiro]

Who was scum reading you for lurking?

I hadn done anything so that is the only thing he could have scumread me for.

[farside22]

What makes no sense for town?

Let me try once more:

Creature scum reads Shiro (1)
Creature sheeps Shiro into voting Almost (2)
Creature sheeps farside into voting Shiro (whom he was sheeping into voting almost after having had Shiro in his scum reads). (3)
Creature calls Shiro's case on Almost weak. That same case he himself had sheeped despite his initial scum read on Shiro. (4)

The above don't make much sense. Weak case = you don't follow, and especially so if the case is being made by a scum read of yours both BEFORE and AFTER. If you do follow the case; you don't come around and call it weak and make THAT your reason to vote the person you sheeped on said case.

Okay I didn't see creature call the case shit.
I would like to see more from creature.

[TheWayItEnds]

Aren't you a ball of info.
You join this game to play or just fill a spot?
I'm just curious if you at some point will say something about reads at all.

Well i joined this game to play.

but my playstyle is generally to fill a slot until day 2/3 unless someone fucks up early game and i have to get involved earlier.

plus as far as im concerned we're just waiting around for you to shoot someone today yeah?

[Titus]

Creature is scum, like 75% certain here.

Your thoughts Math?

[Creature]

Wished there were less players to work with.

[Creature]

Even I know not voting scum isn't a scum tell.