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Dice Random Voting

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:17 pm

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Random Voting with dice takes away most of the relevant discussion arising from random voting.

Random votes should never be truly random.
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:25 pm

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Agreed.
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:28 pm

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Sure, random voting with dice is silly.

Dice should be used for other things, like deciding who you're going to execute.
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:30 pm

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I THINK THIS DISCUSSION SHOULD HAPPEN IN GAMES AND SORTING IT OUT HERE SO WE HAVE SOMETHING TO CITE WHEN IT HAPPENS IN GAMES AS PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DO IT ANYWAY IS KIND OF POINTLESS SO I'M JUST GOING TO REFRAIN FROM GIVING AN OPINION HERE.
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:32 pm

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Seems that the act of dice voting itself can spark discussion.
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:33 pm

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IH wrote:Seems that the act of dice voting itself can spark discussion.
But that discussion is limited to "why are you dice voting", which is a discussion not worth having that often.
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:37 pm

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Out with voting for people for random reasons!
In with voting for people for silly reasons!

How many people actually check to make sure that the dice tags were used properly, and that a gif or something wasn't posted instead?
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:39 pm

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Adel wrote:Out with voting for people for random reasons!
In with voting for people for silly reasons!

How many people actually check to make sure that the dice tags were used properly, and that a gif or something wasn't posted instead?
I donno, but faking a random dice role for a random vote would seem like an absurldy stupid risk to me.
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:40 pm

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but have you ever actually checked?
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:44 pm

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Adel wrote:but have you ever actually checked?
Um...well, I've never checked intentionally I don't think, but I have sometimes quoted posts like that (either to respond to them, or to remind myself how to do the "dice" code). Even without people intentionally checking, if you do something like that, you're caught as soon as someone quotes your post. And as the gain is so incredibly small...
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:50 pm

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Simenon wrote:
IH wrote:Seems that the act of dice voting itself can spark discussion.
But that discussion is limited to "why are you dice voting", which is a discussion not worth having that often.
Agreed. Dice-roll voting is a post not worth making, and is a waste of space. I often think it's an excuse not to think or to try (or both).
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:46 pm

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Simenon wrote:Random Voting with dice takes away most of the relevant discussion arising from random voting.

Random votes should never be truly random.
agreed... you should never random vote b/c a die told you so...


you should use random.org...
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Sat Nov 17, 2007 3:39 am

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Whenever someone dice votes, I vote them for divestment of accountability.
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Sat Nov 17, 2007 4:16 am

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I dice vote at the start of each and every game, in an identical fashion.

As a play, I agree that it is fairly anti-town, but I'm not changing my traditions for you people!

You can't argue with dice...
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Sat Nov 17, 2007 4:33 am

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Simenon wrote:Random Voting with dice takes away most of the relevant discussion arising from random voting.

Random votes should never be truly random.
But people are ALWAYS going to be able to get away with truly random votes: what are you going to do, institute a meta of lynching anyone who doesn't come up with a convincing joke reason for their random vote? Even if people don't use the die in thread, doesn't mean they won't outside it.

Which means remotely competent scum can always get around any possible tell in daystart games by
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random voting, and thus, the RVS is merely a mildly tedious convention to be finished as soon as humanly possible.
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Sat Nov 17, 2007 4:56 am

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I don't care what scum do.

Townies should avoid using something entirely dependant on random factors for random votes. Obviously I can't do anything to stop it, but I can hope this feeling becomes the norm.
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Sat Nov 17, 2007 6:40 am

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Simenon wrote:I don't care what scum do.

Townies should avoid using something entirely dependant on random factors for random votes. Obviously I can't do anything to stop it, but I can hope this feeling becomes the norm.
I agree.

Or, even if you are going to use random.org or whatever to vote, it's better if you leave unclear if your vote was random or not, so you have at least a chance of getting a reaction. Using dice to prove your vote was random dosn't seem really useful to me.
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Sat Nov 17, 2007 11:16 am

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I think voting for someone based on who they choose to randomly vote because it *might* not actually be random is retarded. Therefore, until someone comes up with a reasonable replacement for the random voting stage to start off a game, I'm going to keep using dice to start off the game.
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Sat Nov 17, 2007 11:33 am

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I think voting for someone based on who they choose to randomly vote because it *might* not actually be random is retarded.
I cannot make sense of this.
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:25 pm

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In my next game I'm going to roll the dice and then give that person immunity from my vote for the first day.
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Sat Nov 17, 2007 3:10 pm

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Thank you for making this post so that I have something to point to in the beginning of games. Well done.

Truly random voting is stupid. Arbitrary voting is key.
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Sat Nov 17, 2007 4:41 pm

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I see your "random voting is stupid" and raise you a "die roll to start each game which determines whether or not I shall vote randomly"!
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Sat Nov 17, 2007 4:57 pm

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Mastermind of Sin wrote:I think voting for someone based on who they choose to randomly vote because it *might* not actually be random is retarded. Therefore, until someone comes up with a reasonable replacement for the random voting stage to start off a game, I'm going to keep using dice to start off the game.
It is mildly scummy to vote with dice because the "Don't vote with dice" meta helps the town.
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Sat Nov 17, 2007 5:06 pm

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Original Roll String: 1d2
1 2-Sided Dice: (2) = 2
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Sat Nov 17, 2007 5:07 pm

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Vote: This thread sucks.
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