STEVEN UNIVERSE 2 - GAME OVER

[grapes]

See guys some shit like that is something I'll probably end up pursing. Scum motive is pretty obvious for lying about why you've stayed ambiguous on all your role stuff especially coupling the lie w/ how shiro seems to have ended up not in an alliance + hasn't really made that much of an effort to make sure that that doesn't happen.

Creature's thing the scum motive literally doesn't exist. Scum wouldn't claim to have done something that didn't actually happen somehow, not to mention after the fact.

[Shadow_step]

ok I failed in my alliance......so either Kras did not write to ally with me or we were blocked.

I don't think forming alliances can be blocked(?)

[MagnaofIllusion]

I disagree with the grapes "Creature has no scum motive" but that can be hashed out today.

Before lynching I've got info I want sorted out ...

I had a one-shot Power as leader that I used last Night to get what is effectively a clear on someone. Varsoon has confirmed that whoever has control of the event in question and isn't scum. So I can clear someone today. I have no clue what the Event does but I know that the name is unique and is held by a Town player.

Everyone (aside from Random since I know the event isn't his and know all his events from his Role PM anyway and Mastin who is Yume cleared) needs to claim any Events Name (and only names ... no need to out what remaining tricks Town may have to bamboozle scum) they still have available so I can clear someone. I

[MagnaofIllusion]

Also check with Varsoon if your alliance didn't happen. He forgot to send Random and my Alliance link to us until I asked him about it.

[Creature]

The name of the event I can trigger?

[MagnaofIllusion]

Everyone (aside from Random since I know the event isn't his and know all his events from his Role PM anyway and Mastin who is Yume cleared)

needs to claim any Events Name (and only names ... no need to out what remaining tricks Town may have to bamboozle scum)

they still have available so I can clear someone.

[Creature]

Rising Tides, Crashing Skies

[Creature]

Okay, let's wait mastin2 analysis now that Shiro is scum.

[Reasonably Rational]

Shiro doesn't get anything from being in an alliance. He never claimed he did. He just has a power to allow alliance chats to extend beyond the initial day.

MoI: I don't have any events left.

Off to work, going to be fairly busy until the weekend so please don't end the day until I can evaluate things considering the TWIE flip.

-Cerb

[MagnaofIllusion]

@Shiro

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Trigger this claimed event in your next post.

My even is extreme circumstances can be used at slice of life only. It will automatically raise stress to tragic destiny due to my paranoia of what is out there.

[Creature]

Oh right.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Quick Beachapalooza Analysis – TWIE flipping scum means that DGB was able to coordinate with the main team body for Beachapalooza. So RR actually now stands a more likely chance of being scum.

Also before we lynch today we need to make sure we get Alliance mechanics sorted out. Now I am have much more freedom to Ally than before so I’m open to suggestions of good people to Ally with.

Claimed Events –

Creature – “Rising Tides, Crashing Skies”
RR – None left
Kraska – ???
Shadow - ???
Almost50 - ???
Grapes - ???
Shiro - ???
Farside22 - ???
Fuzzylogic - ???

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Oh nice not again.

Nice “Oh, bad things” scum tell drop there Creature.

You seriously didn't note any difference in my play in The Walking Dead Season 1 Finale?

Yeah I notice a clear difference. You aren’t in a hydra.

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Well fuck.

I was honestly expecting TWIE to flip town there.

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maybe they thought Far was the traitor. Either that or they thought far was a dangerous third party, I doubt Far is scum though.

Why would scum want to lynch their traitor again?

[grapes]

Okay nevermind back to mehscum on shiro.

[grapes]

I disagree with the grapes "Creature has no scum motive" but that can be hashed out today.

All I'm sayin' is that it looked like shiro claimed something to do with his role at a glance and lying about that is scummier than claiming an action that could be blatantly called out as bullshit by anyone paying attention at all.

Unless you think it's a thing he would have HAD to claim eventually.

[Creature]

Who Skybird allied with again?

[MagnaofIllusion]

All I'm sayin' is that it looked like shiro claimed something to do with his role at a glance and lying about that is scummier than claiming an action that could be blatantly called out as bullshit by anyone paying attention at all.

Unless you think it's a thing he would have HAD to claim eventually.

I think you are over-simplifying the nature of the many, many issues with Creature vis-a-vie his claimed action.

1. He contradicted himself on why he actually had a result when Town shouldn't have been using Night abilities. First it was he didn't understand the Cluster event and then he said he didn't think using it would be a big deal which explicitly says he understood the nature of the Cluster threat.
2. His claimed result supposedly might have alignment implications (given he asked his Neighbors whether the role in question was Town or scum) but never broached the subject in the main thread until I forced him to. A main thread with multiple confirmed Town players to help him make that assessment.
3. His results do not make sense as neither 1 of 4 or 3 of 4 correct items match to Random.
4. His handling of "Oh I could have been redirected" as an excuse for his results not making sense when he later claims his results specifically identify Random as his target.
5. His handling of "Oh, I got results but shouldn't have" given Snarky's Town flip and his later "Oh, I forgot I can't be Roleblocked".

I still think he's scum who took an action and botched his claim on it (either forgetting or not knowing he shouldn't have a result when Allied with Snarky).

[grapes]

When you lay it out like that..

[MagnaofIllusion]

Personally the fact that TWIE didn't bother to vote Creature to save his own skin says that chances are they are aligned ...

Unless you think Creature is Town and TWIE is so terrible a player he'd basically game-throw by not voting his own viable counter-wagon.

Instead he spent his time trying desperately to undermine my credibility with pointless insults.

Add in that it Creature stalled his vote on Farside (despite calling him not scum his vote languished there for a significant amount of time) and only voted TWIE with great hesitation.

[Shiro]

@Shiro

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Trigger this claimed event in your next post.

My even is extreme circumstances can be used at slice of life only. It will automatically raise stress to tragic destiny due to my paranoia of what is out there.

I've stated more than once that I was joking , jesus

[Creature]

1. He contradicted himself on why he actually had a result when Town shouldn't have been using Night abilities. First it was he didn't understand the Cluster event and then he said he didn't think using it would be a big deal which explicitly says he understood the nature of the Cluster threat.

The latter was something among: "Even if I was aware of that event", not "I thought my action wouldn't make a difference when I was making the action".

I don't want to write a wikipedia article for you to understand.

[MagnaofIllusion]

@Shiro

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Trigger this claimed event in your next post.

My even is extreme circumstances can be used at slice of life only. It will automatically raise stress to tragic destiny due to my paranoia of what is out there.

I've stated more than once that I was joking , jesus

Sue me. I forgot your retraction.

So what events can you still trigger Shiro? Names only please.

[Shiro]

A bleh one, I can create a second alliance with a person I already allied with and they cannot affect me negativly and viceversa. It needs + stress if I recall.

[Shiro]

ok I failed in my alliance......so either Kras did not write to ally with me or we were blocked.

After twie said his shot was garenteed I figured he'd flip red.

Shiro: why do you do not action during the night phase?

Cause my action is only good if I have allies which I have been shit at making.

I can keep alliances open forever but I never got the chance to actually use it other than first time but fire got bubbled and it was for naught

Well this is a lie.

Vote: shiro

I checked you n4 and know for a fact you gain nothing being in an alliance.

Tfl: you didn't get in an alliance with kraska, is your ability only garenteed if in an alliance?

Yes, I need to be in an alliance. Then use the power at night. I was never in an alliance with kraska wth?

Whatever RR can cofnrim that our alliance has been open from the moment it started.

[MagnaofIllusion]

A bleh one, I can create a second alliance with a person I already allied with and they cannot affect me negativly and viceversa. It needs + stress if I recall.

Um I only asked for the Name and you gave me everything but the Name ...

[Shiro]

A bleh one, I can create a second alliance with a person I already allied with and they cannot affect me negativly and viceversa. It needs + stress if I recall.

Um I only asked for the Name and you gave me everything but the Name ...

Cause I do not remember the name and I was bored to search my pms for it xD