DEFCON Mafia 4.0 - СЛАВА РОССИИ МАТЕРИ
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mastina She/HerFalse ProphetShe/Her
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A scumteam this game would have to be utter morons to be using their normal posting style in the mafia PT. So don't expect that to be useful. Other things are going to be more reliable indicators.In post 2133, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:BUT who are the people that usually post in all smalls?-
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Because scum(reads) keep trying to direct me there.In post 2238, RedCoyote wrote:I can roll with UT, but why aren't you interested in SS?
And I'm just like.
lolno.-
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mastina She/HerFalse ProphetShe/Her
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Was gonna save this 'til I caught up, but now's as good a time as any:
Ser Arthur Dayne
Cephrir
Cheetory
Nukebringer
Spiffeh
Reck
MoI
Accountant
Vaxkiller
Fate
GreyICE
Something_smart
Errantparabola
McMenno
GiF
hiplop
SpyreX
Nahdia
Zito
RC
Ircher
UT
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What are your thoughts of Something_Smart independent of the people pushing that case?In post 2352, mastina wrote:Because scum(reads) keep trying to direct me there.
And I'm just like.
lolno.Would you like to play a game?
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mastina She/HerFalse ProphetShe/Her
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^For the record: you can put a divide between Something_smart and Errantparabola.
Something_smart and above are on the town side of null.
Errantparabola and below are south of null.
McMenno, GiF, and hiplop are still nulls, just scummy nulls for a few select reasons.
Something_smart, GreyICE, Fate, and Vaxkiller all have reason to be town, but not quite enough where they'd appear in the above list.
Spiffeh, Reck, MoI, and Accountant are all townreads, but not quite enough strength behind them thanks to some doubts which keep them from being promoted.
It's not like SAD, Cephrir, Cheetory, or Nukebriker are squeaky clean, but the only doubts I have on them are FIRMLY paranoia-induced, and very obviously so. In a game of this caliber, they're the closest we've got to clean slated players.-
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mastina She/HerFalse ProphetShe/Her
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Yeah.In post 2253, GreyICE wrote:Like is she off the table for any reason besides no one wants to read her posts?
It's called people actually read my posts.-
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Lady Lambdadelta She/FaerRise of the PhoenixShe/Faer
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hahahahhahahahahahahaIn post 2357, mastina wrote:
Yeah.In post 2253, GreyICE wrote:Like is she off the table for any reason besides no one wants to read her posts?
It's called people actually read my posts.
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your posts give me cancer, go fuck yourself.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Lady Lambdadelta She/FaerRise of the PhoenixShe/Faer
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I dare anyone to go ISO mastin and Control F "LLD"
Then, go read through the 17 results and I defy you, no I mean I seriouslyDEFY YOUto find anything about post posting, any kind of intent or gut reads or anything.
Mastin has essentially fabricated a scum read on me and just by continuously screaming that she thinks I'm scum, she'd kind of bought a free pass.
Go on, go read. All of you. I'll wait.
Vote: MastinYes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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mastina She/HerFalse ProphetShe/Her
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Hint: look at who most of those people are.In post 2269, Spiffeh wrote:I really don't get why so many people are scum reading her beyond "you're being bad and useless"
By now people have probably figured out more or less what I was doing, but to put things in simplest terms:
I'm not scumreading Accountant, because Accountant's response to me, from what I know of Accountant's personality, read as town. I'm not scumreading Cephrir, because Cephrir's response to me--in spite of him not recognizing what I was doing (normally a red flag)--was otherwise town, because I still saw him legitimately trying to figure out what the hell I was pulling. I'm not scumreading you, because I thought your handling of it was also in line with you as town. Probably others I'm forgetting on here, but you get the idea.
I'm scumreading LLD, UT, RC, Ircher, and Zito in part because of their response to me. Each for different reasons. And each for reasons beyond that (that's far from the only thing).
In other words, psychological profiling.
The people who are scumreading me are either the people who would do so as town because they're naive (see also, Accountant), or are people who are VERY incredibly likely to be scum. (LLD, UT, RC, Zito. Ircher's not scumreading me anymore, but his response was scum anyway. RC may or may not have scumread me, but regardless, he's painting me in a negative light, when no fucking duh, I'm mastina I had a plan.)-
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Lady Lambdadelta She/FaerRise of the PhoenixShe/Faer
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Oh so they exist?In post 2360, mastina wrote:
Hint: look at who most of those people are.In post 2269, Spiffeh wrote:I really don't get why so many people are scum reading her beyond "you're being bad and useless"
By now people have probably figured out more or less what I was doing, but to put things in simplest terms:
I'm not scumreading Accountant, because Accountant's response to me, from what I know of Accountant's personality, read as town. I'm not scumreading Cephrir, because Cephrir's response to me--in spite of him not recognizing what I was doing (normally a red flag)--was otherwise town, because I still saw him legitimately trying to figure out what the hell I was pulling. I'm not scumreading you, because I thought your handling of it was also in line with you as town. Probably others I'm forgetting on here, but you get the idea.
I'm scumreading LLD,UT, RC, Ircher, and Zito inpart because of their response to me. Each for different reasons. And each for reasons beyond that (that's far from the only thing).
In other words, psychological profiling.
The people who are scumreading me are either the people who would do so as town because they're naive (see also, Accountant), or are people who are VERY incredibly likely to be scum. (LLD, UT, RC, Zito. Ircher's not scumreading me anymore, but his response was scum anyway. RC may or may not have scumread me, but regardless, he's painting me in a negative light, when no fucking duh, I'm mastina I had a plan.)
Where.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Lady Lambdadelta She/FaerRise of the PhoenixShe/Faer
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I'm done laughing at you being a trash can.
It's time to put up or shut up. You're getting a fucking flashlight shined in your fucking face because I'm tired of let you slip through the fucking cracks.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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mastina She/HerFalse ProphetShe/Her
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Theory talk disguised as game content, which was also wishy-washy, largely pointless, and inconsistent. Plus, for someone who is trying to say, "trying to get a lynch he believes to be easy to pull off", Ircher is going after...In post 2271, Spiffeh wrote:What in that post makes you think he's scum?
...McMenno, who is. Oh yeah. Guess what?
A lynch Ircher believes will be easy to pull off.
It's hypocritical. It's defensive. It's an overly long justification for his actions which basically amounts to not much of anything.-
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Do you think this kind of perspective is assisting the town in any manner? Y/NIn post 2362, Cephrir wrote:mastins gonna mastin.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Sure.In post 2277, RedCoyote wrote:A pet peeve of mine is when someone claims without any provocation or reason for doing so.
Provocation was absent.
Reason was not.-
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Nukebringer Goon
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Lady Lambdadelta She/FaerRise of the PhoenixShe/Faer
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You're welcome to replace the fuck out.In post 2367, Nukebringer wrote:could we just get rid of LLD? you don't know how happy that would make me.
Just remove from game, it would be nice. don't even care of her alignment.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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McMenno they/themOne For Aren't-We-Allthey/them
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I mean it's pretty telling that he goes onto this rant about universal scumtells being bullshit and then goes after me, supposedly for me going after him, which is an "easy to pull off wagon" in his own wordsIn post 2023, Ircher wrote:Also, since McMenno is so keen on lynching less-skilled players and players with a habit of getting lynched as town this game without giving even a shadow of a doubt:
The phrase "scummy != scum" means that just because a player may do things that can be viewed as coming from scum (aka scummy), it doesn't necessarily mean that they are scum.
All those scumtells on the wiki..... They probably work about 10% of the time at best. Why? 1) Scum will actively avoid commiting them because.... they're scumtells 2) Townies, who are less cautious generally, have a tendency of commiting some of them by mistake/without intending to do so/sub-consciously.
Scumtells ONLY WORK if the player in question consistently does them as scum but not as often as town. You have to look at the big picture WHICH INCLUDES the player'sbefore you start trying to paint a behavior as something only scum would do even when it's quite obvious that town can do it too.meta and playstyle
Sheeping isnota scumtell 9/10 times because 1) Town can do it 2) Town who townread a better player than themselves may decide that that player's reads are more likely to be accurate 3) Anyone will start sheeping if they become apathetic 4) It's not a behavior that even benefits scum a lot.
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That said, my McMenno vote wasa sheep as I already explained givingNOTTHREEreasons for the vote, yet McMennofocused on onlyon those reasons and claimed my reasons were aONECOVER-UPbecause Iapparentlydidn't want to be called out for sheeping.
Some other things people should realize: "Correlation doesn't imply Causation"; just because my vote camesoon afterCephrir's votedoes not necessarily meanthat Cephrir's votecausedme to vote McMenno.
Maybe you didn't like my reasons for my Mc!enno; that's understandable as long as you show that you read them all. But, trying to press my vote as scummy even when 1) There's just as likely, if not moreso, chance that town COULD do something similar and 2) The number of assumptions to make for McMenno's account is more than the number of assumptions made for what I stated in terms of my vote (Occam's Razor) is beyond ridiculous;it's scum behavior.
And I swear, if there were a lyncher in this game, it would DEFINITELY be McMenno with a win condition to try to lynch me; this isn't the first post of McMenno's that is outrageous and ridiculous with the sole intent of getting me lynched WITHOUT proper evidence or even effort to prove such.
It's obvious to me this is scum McMenno trying to get a lynch he believes to be easy to pull off.
VOTE: McMenno
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nah, but you can if you like.In post 2368, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
You're welcome to replace the fuck out.In post 2367, Nukebringer wrote:could we just get rid of LLD? you don't know how happy that would make me.
Just remove from game, it would be nice. don't even care of her alignment.Would you like to play a game?
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WELCOME TO THINGS I JUST ASKED HI SPYREX YOU'RE LATE TO THE PARTYIn post 2371, SpyreX wrote:So why am i scum mastin
DON'T WORRY TAKE A NUMBER IT'LL BE AWHILE BEFORE SHE DECIDES TO ANSWER.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Lady Lambdadelta She/FaerRise of the PhoenixShe/Faer
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I'd llike to remind you that I joined this game prior to you did and so you made the active choice to play with me.In post 2372, Nukebringer wrote:
nah, but you can if you like.In post 2368, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
You're welcome to replace the fuck out.In post 2367, Nukebringer wrote:could we just get rid of LLD? you don't know how happy that would make me.
Just remove from game, it would be nice. don't even care of her alignment.
You're also the person with the problem here.
So if you don't like it, leave.
Otherwise, suck it up princess I'm not going anywhere.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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