yes.Albert B. Rampage wrote:Is Skruffs food-worthy ?
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Do you mean my 'case' against BM or BM's 'case' against me? Just to verify.Erg0 wrote:In BM's case it'sdefinitelyplaystyle.
If you think that BM is 'acting scummy' because that's just his playstyle, then why are you trying to goad him into acting MORE of that way? What I mean is, why would you write it off as a nulltell AND encourage it at the same time? If it's a nulltell than you are giving him a free pass to be as destructive and distractive as he wants.-
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You are saying I am scum based on meta knowledge.Battle Mage wrote:
Unfortunately you have rendered your own argument invalid here. By claiming that a meta only exists if it is on scum, and then claiming one on me is a stupid statement, because it makes the assumption that i am scum, before the meta itself is brought into play.Skruffs wrote:BM, you obviously don't have meta-knowledge on me, because I'm not scum. So if you think you have a meta on me, you are wrong. I actually respect metas to a degree, but you do not have any. I actually successfully (I think) used a meta on you earlier day one and then you went batcrazy and started 'over compensating' by acting like the LArger than Life BM that I mentioned seemed to be missing, which was, to me, more likely a sign of you being scum.When you immediately dropped the guise, and went after me (and have continued to go after me nonstop to the exclusion of payign attention to other players, which is also scum tell), and that's been your 'Plan' ever sense.
Since I am NOT SCUm, your meta knowledge is flawed. How did you interpret that to mean that "Only scum can have metas?" Point dismissed.
Ooooh!Battle Mage wrote:
It concerns me that no-one has picked up on this yet. Me and Skruffs have both claimed BB notes, and have both claimed different mechanics for them. Thus 1 of us MUST be lying, and hence, scum. As i've been cop-confirmed, it makes absolute sense to lynch Skruffs today, because even if he came up town, you would know that i was scum.Skruffs wrote: Lowell, Tarhalindur, All I know about BM is that he has NO idea what he's takling about regarding the bad behavior notes
Tell me again how the bad behavior notes work, again, BM?
Let me show you how mine work.
I get a set number every morning. If I don't use them, I continue to have the same number the next morning. If I use them, I still have the same number each morning.
Give Eight Bad Behavior Notes to Battle Mage
You are A) Taking the cop at face value and encouraging the town to do the same.
B) Creating a false dilemma (since he has a claimed inspection on me, skruffs is the obv scum) and
C) Contradicting yourself. I mean, you kind of just ignore all the cases of contradiction I've already given you instead to spout out inane babble against me - and congratulations! it seems to be working, if the asking if it's okay to lynch me-talk that is coming up is working. Also:
D) You don't seem to have any sense of introspection, which, UNLIKE your play in Mafia 61, as town, seems to show up in ONE form or another.
You *were* being a little more level headed until I said that might be a scum tell - in which case you devolved. So why don't you tell us: Do you intentionally act scummy more as town or as scum?
Right, because reading your posts will provide instances where I am inconsistent. AS compared to... OH.... I dunno... the person who actually wrote them.Battle Mage wrote:
Lies and more lies eh Skruffs? Again, it doesnt take a genius to go back and read my posts and find the inconsistency in Skruffs' comments.Skruffs wrote:and that he is WILDLY fishing in the guise of making assertions that are not true and asking if anyone will back him up. Everyone else goes "Uh, hmm," and he chalks it up. He's fishing. Hard core. He would NOT answer Sir T's question about his alignment.
And you don't have an ability, apparently, or you have reason to think that the bad behavior notes are not ability related at all. Which is wrong. I've claimed. Y ou apparently, HAVEN'T. Or at least, haven't correctly.Battle Mage wrote:
Um, how long have you been playing Mafia?Skruffs wrote: Now he's demanding that I role claim. Tell me, Tarhalindur - Do *you* have a 'role' to claim, or do you have a Name, some flavor text, and perhaps some abilities (with explanation)???
Role = Ability... FOOL.
Your gambit FAILED.
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Wait a sec. So withholding information is scummy, and trying to extract information is also scummy?Skruffs wrote: BM's contradictions on himself regarding what is what, his alignment, what he thinks about my claiming, EVERYTHING, indicates that he has NO ideaq what he is talking about. I was the first person (I think) to claim who I was in this game, and he immediately followed right after wards with a similar claim, whil saying that mine is likely scum. When SIR T asked who he was affiliated with earlier, he said "Pro-town, obv", after refusing to.
And failure to claim immediately is scummy when i do it, but for you its a completely different ball game right?
I CANNOT believe i'm hearing this...
You shouldn't be fishing for h ow bad behavior notes, Battle Mage, if you have them. If you actually have them, you know what they are. You don't. If you had them, but didn't have all the information, why would you assume that other players WOULD? WHy would you only get notes but not have any idea what they do, whereas someone else would get bad behavior notes AND know what they do? No. You didn't get bad behavior notes. You lied about them in an attempt to 'hook' information about how they work and what they are from the town. And that's pretty obvious. TO me. Nobody else is interested enough to look, apparently, and that's fine. I really don' twant to play a game with lobotomized sheep, especially if they are following *YOU*.
BM - aren't you curious why Erg0 asked you when you were going to try and get me lynched? Doesn't that strike you as strangely passive? No? I didn't think so.Battle Mage wrote:
What do you have to hide?Skruffs wrote: Now he is trying to get more information. More. And you seem to be, instead of calling him out on oit, or being curious, you BOTH seem to be trying to goad him into launching food at me. Hmm.
BM
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Mucho mucho prodding. Prods that aren't picked up = replacement.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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You seem level-headed, who do you propose we dump our lunches on ?ckillor wrote:im here and i care, its just the fighting between you two just keeps going and going, and with not much else happening, theres not much to comment on. i still think the battle is pretty silly and most likely between two towniesGuard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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I was worried due to an allergy, I thought we had cleared that up already. I think the bickering's either between two townies, or, more likely, BM is scum who avoided detection (I figure if anyone could do that, it's be a librarian or a principal). Either way, he has been majorly rolefishing, and I'm confident that he's been lying about BB notes. Plus, would you really trust a cheerleader's gossip?Throw five gummi bears at BM. I'll keep some still for later.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Ok i've finished chewing. Response time.
Thats WIFOM and shitlogic, and you know it. Can you please put a bit of effort into this at least. Ya know, i like to feel a sense of achievement when i help lynch scum, but your current play is making the whole thing way too easy. Equally, i'll reiterate that this point renders the vast majority of your argument against me, irrelevant.Skruffs wrote:
You are saying I am scum based on meta knowledge.Battle Mage wrote:
Unfortunately you have rendered your own argument invalid here. By claiming that a meta only exists if it is on scum, and then claiming one on me is a stupid statement, because it makes the assumption that i am scum, before the meta itself is brought into play.Skruffs wrote:BM, you obviously don't have meta-knowledge on me, because I'm not scum. So if you think you have a meta on me, you are wrong. I actually respect metas to a degree, but you do not have any. I actually successfully (I think) used a meta on you earlier day one and then you went batcrazy and started 'over compensating' by acting like the LArger than Life BM that I mentioned seemed to be missing, which was, to me, more likely a sign of you being scum.When you immediately dropped the guise, and went after me (and have continued to go after me nonstop to the exclusion of payign attention to other players, which is also scum tell), and that's been your 'Plan' ever sense.
Since I am NOT SCUm, your meta knowledge is flawed. How did you interpret that to mean that "Only scum can have metas?" Point dismissed.
Ok, i will. I was given a number of BB notes at the start of the game. I dont get them refilled every day or whatever you seem to be claiming, hence me being conservative with them. Now personally i'm not seeing someone who claims to have a finite number of BB notes on Day 1, miraculously ending up with respawning BB notes by Day 2. It just strikes me as a bit strange. Plus, i'm not even convinced you have BB notes full stop-due to your obvious inability to comprehend how they work.Skruffs wrote:
Ooooh!Battle Mage wrote:
It concerns me that no-one has picked up on this yet. Me and Skruffs have both claimed BB notes, and have both claimed different mechanics for them. Thus 1 of us MUST be lying, and hence, scum. As i've been cop-confirmed, it makes absolute sense to lynch Skruffs today, because even if he came up town, you would know that i was scum.Skruffs wrote: Lowell, Tarhalindur, All I know about BM is that he has NO idea what he's takling about regarding the bad behavior notes
Tell me again how the bad behavior notes work, again, BM?
Let me show you how mine work.
I get a set number every morning. If I don't use them, I continue to have the same number the next morning. If I use them, I still have the same number each morning.
Give Eight Bad Behavior Notes to Battle Mage
You are A) Taking the cop at face value and encouraging the town to do the same.
B) Creating a false dilemma (since he has a claimed inspection on me, skruffs is the obv scum) and
C) Contradicting yourself. I mean, you kind of just ignore all the cases of contradiction I've already given you instead to spout out inane babble against me - and congratulations! it seems to be working, if the asking if it's okay to lynch me-talk that is coming up is working. Also:
D) You don't seem to have any sense of introspection, which, UNLIKE your play in Mafia 61, as town, seems to show up in ONE form or another.
You *were* being a little more level headed until I said that might be a scum tell - in which case you devolved. So why don't you tell us: Do you intentionally act scummy more as town or as scum?
Now, lets look at your 4 points shall we?
A. Ok, a guy has claimed cop, with an innocent on me. Its kind of what i've been waiting for, so why would i be either surprised, or reluctant to believe? Obviously he isnt confirmed innocent, but its hardly something we're going to lynch him over. And besides, even IF Tar turned out to be scum, would that have any reflection on my affiliation?
B. Like i dont push that sort of false dilemma whenever i can. Hell, like YOU wouldn't.
C. Is this meant to be a case against me, or a last stab at appealing to the emotion of the majority? Seriously man, do you expect me to believe that a townie would play so damn shoddily, and then as his defence, BEG to be spared?
D. I dont know what 'introspection' means, but if i needed to say this again, i do NOT intentionally act scummy as town OR scum (except in 1 instance where it was a funny way to start the game) lol
Yes, because fibbing is an inconsistency.Skruffs wrote:
Right, because reading your posts will provide instances where I am inconsistent. AS compared to... OH.... I dunno... the person who actually wrote them.Battle Mage wrote:
Lies and more lies eh Skruffs? Again, it doesnt take a genius to go back and read my posts and find the inconsistency in Skruffs' comments.Skruffs wrote:and that he is WILDLY fishing in the guise of making assertions that are not true and asking if anyone will back him up. Everyone else goes "Uh, hmm," and he chalks it up. He's fishing. Hard core. He would NOT answer Sir T's question about his alignment.
ROFL. I'm not going to go over old ground again. I've claimed directly and clearly. YouSkruffs wrote:
And you don't have an ability, apparently, or you have reason to think that the bad behavior notes are not ability related at all. Which is wrong. I've claimed. Y ou apparently, HAVEN'T. Or at least, haven't correctly.Battle Mage wrote:
Um, how long have you been playing Mafia?Skruffs wrote: Now he's demanding that I role claim. Tell me, Tarhalindur - Do *you* have a 'role' to claim, or do you have a Name, some flavor text, and perhaps some abilities (with explanation)???
Role = Ability... FOOL.
Your gambit FAILED.to have made a vague claim, but it does beg the question why you could not claim normally, like you do elsewhere?seem
Lawl. I've said what BB notes do. You've said something completely different. Hence one of us is scum. I'm cop confirmed innocent, and you aren't. Thus, we lynch you today, and if you come up town, tomorrow we lynch either Tar or I. Is that so hard to understand? Or would you rather us lobotomized sheep repeat this over and over again, because that seems to be the only way things ever sink into your head.Skruffs wrote:
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Wait a sec. So withholding information is scummy, and trying to extract information is also scummy?Skruffs wrote: BM's contradictions on himself regarding what is what, his alignment, what he thinks about my claiming, EVERYTHING, indicates that he has NO ideaq what he is talking about. I was the first person (I think) to claim who I was in this game, and he immediately followed right after wards with a similar claim, whil saying that mine is likely scum. When SIR T asked who he was affiliated with earlier, he said "Pro-town, obv", after refusing to.
And failure to claim immediately is scummy when i do it, but for you its a completely different ball game right?
I CANNOT believe i'm hearing this...
You shouldn't be fishing for h ow bad behavior notes, Battle Mage, if you have them. If you actually have them, you know what they are. You don't. If you had them, but didn't have all the information, why would you assume that other players WOULD? WHy would you only get notes but not have any idea what they do, whereas someone else would get bad behavior notes AND know what they do? No. You didn't get bad behavior notes. You lied about them in an attempt to 'hook' information about how they work and what they are from the town. And that's pretty obvious. TO me. Nobody else is interested enough to look, apparently, and that's fine. I really don' twant to play a game with lobotomized sheep, especially if they are following *YOU*.
No, i dont find Erg0's comment particularly odd in itself. Or are you pointing out the non-commitalness of his play?Skruffs wrote:
BM - aren't you curious why Erg0 asked you when you were going to try and get me lynched? Doesn't that strike you as strangely passive? No? I didn't think so.Battle Mage wrote:
What do you have to hide?Skruffs wrote: Now he is trying to get more information. More. And you seem to be, instead of calling him out on oit, or being curious, you BOTH seem to be trying to goad him into launching food at me. Hmm.
BM
Chew on that for a while.
Yup, finished chewing. I'm glad you recognise how hard i find it to swallow your bogus logic, sometimes.
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This is incredibly weak reasoning. Talk about the irony of Skruffs's comments, i think we have our only lobotomized sheep here.Gorrad wrote:I was worried due to an allergy, I thought we had cleared that up already. I think the bickering's either between two townies, or, more likely, BM is scum who avoided detection (I figure if anyone could do that, it's be a librarian or a principal). Either way, he has been majorly rolefishing, and I'm confident that he's been lying about BB notes. Plus, would you really trust a cheerleader's gossip?Throw five gummi bears at BM. I'll keep some still for later.
Tell me, where have i been rolefishing? Because as far as i can see, the only way you could possibly have got this impression, is if you are following Skruffs blindly.
Oh and while i'm here, why would i be lying about the BB notes. The way i see it, its my word against Skruffs's, unless we have a Bastard Mod. So, is there any real reason you've chosen to take the word of someone who is unconfirmed, and acting ridiculously scummy, over someone who is.COP CONFIRMED INNOCENT
OMFG, your ignorance is frustrating.
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Bm, you were expecting to draw the cop's investigation last night? Why? Were youintentionally acting scummy so as to draw it? Or are you suggesting that you appear scummy when you are actually protown? If so, then why would you intentionally fish for an investigation by attacking people who pick up on your town-scumvibes?
Or, to be succint, why were you expecting to be investigated over me, if I'm obv scum?
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The Fonz replaces PlaysWithSquirrels, who is victim to a nasty strain of Salmonella, causing permanent flakage.Last edited by DrippingGoofball on Tue Dec 04, 2007 2:31 am, edited 1 time in total.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Of course i was expecting 1 of 2 things to happen. The Cop would investigate me, or he would investigate you. If he investigated me, i'd be confirmed, and we could concentrate on lynching you. If he investigated you, we'd lynch you, and hopefully that'd give me some credibility. So either way, i was hoping the cop would be able to shed some light on the situation.Skruffs wrote:Bm, you were expecting to draw the cop's investigation last night? Why? Were youintentionally acting scummy so as to draw it? Or are you suggesting that you appear scummy when you are actually protown? If so, then why would you intentionally fish for an investigation by attacking people who pick up on your town-scumvibes?
Or, to be succint, why were you expecting to be investigated over me, if I'm obv scum?
You slipped, again.only apparently, your slips were intentional.
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because he is claiming totally different mechanics for the same item.Flameaxe wrote:And why exactly does you being investigated as town make Skruffykins scum?Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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I meant 'with regard to BM', not anyone's case against anyone. I'm just observing, not encouraging - I doubt he needs encouragement from me.Skruffs wrote:
Do you mean my 'case' against BM or BM's 'case' against me? Just to verify.Erg0 wrote:In BM's case it'sdefinitelyplaystyle.
If you think that BM is 'acting scummy' because that's just his playstyle, then why are you trying to goad him into acting MORE of that way? What I mean is, why would you write it off as a nulltell AND encourage it at the same time? If it's a nulltell than you are giving him a free pass to be as destructive and distractive as he wants."You were doing well until everyone died."
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@Skruffs - sorry no halves!Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Yes - also, unlike a vote, you cannot remove food that you have thrown. It's like a permanent vote - for the day at least.YosiP wrote:
Bamboomancer that is so from what I understand throwing food is like voting but with consequences?YosiP wrote:Hey guys! I am replacing BM
MOD: what is the purpose of throwing food?Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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