DEFCON Mafia 4.0 - СЛАВА РОССИИ МАТЕРИ

[mastina]

Cheetory's enough of a ? in my mind that I think him launching a nuke at GreyICE seems plausible.
What do people think?

My thoughts there boil down to this:
GreyICE said, "Hey, the scum have a nuke still!"
I told him that UT, hiplop, and I make up 3/4 of the nukes, with Cheetory as the fourth. He goes, "Huh. Guess I'll have to look at Cheetory again then".

...Thusfar: Silence.

You pointed out GreyICE knew he wasn't dead.
Cheetory debated this point. But then went back and said, "Huh. Guess I'll have to look at GreyICE again then".

...Thusfar: Silence. (Though in Cheetory's credit: this was a relatively recent occurrence, so.)

As a result, they are a REMARKABLY plausible scumteam. Even one of the probable ones, I'd say. I am not really opposed to the idea as a result, though I think regardless of the truthfulness or falsehood of the theory, it probably won't actually materialize, for better or for worse.

[SpyreX]

See gi feels more right than moi from a gut vibe level. Maybe thats more a function of today though.

Nahdia yea its a thing. Never hugely widespread but athing

[Cheetory6]

When in the fuck did I say that.
What even.

[mastina]

Question: Who is scum outside Mastin's list of six? Answer: Vaxkiller, you fucking oblivious moron.

Humor me.
Assume the Vaxkiller nuke goes through. Assume Vaxkiller is scum.
You're calling GreyICE scum.

Who do you think, if not Vaxkiller, his scumbuddy would be, then?

[Cheetory6]

"Huh. Guess I'll have to look at GreyICE again then".

Woah. Can't believe I said that ever.
I don't even remember doing that.

[Nahdia]

Is factional abilities working like that a thing that used to be prevalent? Cause I've never witnessed it myself.

mastina LLD lookin' at you two on this one.

No it's incredibly rare that a game has a mechanic where the kills are performed as a team and not by an individual. Having it be a factional ability and having that ability be able to be used in addition to any other ability is normal, but it's rare that the entire kill is performed without an action provider.

So do you have any idea why GreyICE assumed it worked in that incredibly rare way? Cause if not yeah I'm very comfortable with him shooting down on my list.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Question: Who is scum outside Mastin's list of six? Answer: Vaxkiller, you fucking oblivious moron.

Humor me.
Assume the Vaxkiller nuke goes through. Assume Vaxkiller is scum.
You're calling GreyICE scum.

Who do you think, if not Vaxkiller, his scumbuddy would be, then?

If Vax is town and Grey is scum?

Not MoI, not SpyreX.

Maybe Nahdia, but unlikely.

You're dead so not counting you.

UT is a possible outlier.

It's Cephrir or Cheetory, I think.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Leaning Cephrir. I think its convenient GreyICE swooped in to save Cephrir and stop your nuke instead of forcing Cephrir to make a choice about the poison pill or not.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

But yeah, I'd endorse Cheetory nukes GreyICE (and llikely gets failsafe nuked) and then lynch Cephrir.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Given that Vax is already dying, of course.

[Nahdia]

I'd prefer Cheetory nukes GreyICE followed by a MagnaofIllusion lynch >_>

[Cheetory6]

I really don't have to do anything anyone tells me to.
If this is seriously how this game is going to go, I'm going to nuke however the fuck I want to.

[Nahdia]

Well, I mean, you're right. It's just what I would like to have happen.

[mastina]

Do you know how out of my way I've played this game to be nice to you. And to ask people to not be shit at you because of how fucking outrageous you play this fucking game.

Yeah well that was your choice. I didn't ask for you to be nice. You get nothing for being nice to me. Not a pat on the back, not a congratulations, nothing. Nice is a luxury in games. If its presence hinders the game, it gets thrown out. We don't need nice.

What we need is town working together. I am town. I am also literally about to die. Like, in an hour and a half if I remember my times correctly, the nuke will be past the point of no return, and then when I continue to say I am town you'll know I'm telling the truth because SpyreX sure as fuck didn't sabotage UT so I do so absolutely without a scum agenda. (It's literally akin to claiming town post-lynch in twilight.)

So in that time before I am to die I am demanding certain things. Content, namely. After I'm gone, it doesn't matter what you do or say. But until that time, fuck yes it does.

So, simple request.

Who do you think is scum?
It's literally not that hard a question to answer.

[Cheetory6]

Not answering.
Is it because I'm scum or because I'm unstable?
Only way to find out is by lynching me because you used your fucking nuke like an idiot.

[Nahdia]

Personally I'll be really shocked if Cheetory flips scum, actually. Maybe I do disagree with the notion of aiming a nuke at the fail safe. I kinda feel the need to math out how many mislynches we have and such.

[SpyreX]

Dude cheet dont go full ragenuke please that could be the difference between happy fun times and madnessland

[Cheetory6]

Sorry Spy.
In a bad place.
mastin being full on fucking awful as fuck is making it worse and I should probably just commit to not playing mafia anymore.

[SpyreX]

Be the leaf on the wind i believe in you.

[Cheetory6]

You probably shouldn't.

[mastina]

"Huh. Guess I'll have to look at GreyICE again then".

Woah. Can't believe I said that ever. I don't even remember doing that.

My mistake. It was Nahdia. Point half-retracted. (Obviously the GreyICE half remains.)

[mastina]

I really don't have to do anything anyone tells me to.

You don't have to do anything, sure.
You could literally just stop posting, and pop in once every three days with, oh, I dunno. A random gif. Halt your other posting. You could totally do that!

...But there would be consequences.
Simply put: I am not the only one who is examining you right now. Nor will I be the only one. And that goes without saying. You deliberately make things difficult, you deliberately try to resist, guess what? You pay the price. There's a difference between not letting yourself fall into crowd mentality and choosing to not be helpful. The former's fine, the latter gets you killed. Regardless of your alignment, you shouldn't want that.

[SpyreX]

You probably shouldn't.

Deal w it

[Cheetory6]

I would like to look at a mafia game and think "oh man I'm really interested and invested in solving a mystery that I feel confident that I can solve beyond just random chance".
Would you like me to pretend that that's the case?
Because sorry, I've literally looked at this game for fucking ages and my best guess for scum yesterday was Accountant when I launched my nuke and the entire time that it was in the air I was pretending that I was still confident about it.
Would you like me to continue pretending to be confident about stuff that I literally feel numb about?
Because the only thing I feel right now is resentment towards someone who somehow is acting like they can be confident about something when they've literally fucked up the entire game if they are town and still has terrible reads if they are town.

[Cheetory6]

It's literally beyond my comprehension how you can chide people for the SAD lynch when your reads have literally all been wrong otherwise.