It was actually harder to come up with this than I thought it would be, due to many players not having all that many posts to go on. A lot of activity seems to have dropped off around mid December.
It's too early to consider a single scum team; these players are being weighed on individual merits.
Apyadg
- Abandoning the MafiaSSK wagon. Didn't want to be caught when it came up town. Stops voting for only person he's suspicious of, and fails to any other scum hunting. Last post Dec 11...hmmm. December 10th posting:
I'll start by apologising for the lack of involvement for the last two or three days, it was a work-intensive period at uni, fortunately I've now finished until after Christmas, so I expect no further inactive periods during this game.
So then he promises to hunt scum:
It seemed like a good idea to me at the time, I think easing off Mafia (I'm just going to refer to him as SSK for the rest of the game, I think), and looking at more people (I anticipate the point being repeated that I failed to do this, and it's a point that I concede, see my last post, regarding me planning to re-read), whilst keeping an eye on SSK was the best approach.
And then he hasn't posted since the 11th. I think this is the member of team mafia who's taking the lurking approach, letting their buddies try to get a mislynch. It wouldn't be so damning if he himself hadn't said he would be active during break.
Ythill
- Honestly I feel you're pushing way too hard. Meta attacks in games like this (of people who are newer, and more importantly people who are inactive) are counter productive. It lends you an air of authority that I don't think many, if any, other players will check. Put yourself in MafiaSSK, Discipline Slayer, or Apyadg's shoes. Do you think they've looked up NJH's other games? Even I haven't.
Know your audience.
You have tunnel vision. You vote MafiaSSK, then all NJH/Me. Yet you jumped on me for posting, in my notes, that MafiaSSK slipped up early on and I was making note of it. I clearly posted that I was writing notes to catch up on the thread but you must have missed that, while picking apart every other word in my posts. Apparently it's ok for you to suspect MafiaSSK, and you'll even explicitly mention it was ok for ChronX to also, but your designated lynch target isn't allowed.
You also have a disturbing trend of trying to get one people's good sides by pointing out how fair and noble you are. Now, I've done this once in a current game of mine, but after I did, and was rightly called for it, I admitted the mistake and I'm being more careful about doing it again. Let me quote some of yours:
I’m willing to take my turn in the hot seat if need be.
Anyone else want to take a stab at me before we move on to other matters?
This is my second game but I spent two months reading the site before I signed up. Also, my IQ is 146. Not yanking my own chain here, just explaining that I am a quick learner.
Not trying to distract from attacks against me, keep ‘em coming if you like.
I do have a rather tame question for you.
And, as always, I invite attacks and suspicions. I'm as likely to be scum as anyone. You may fire when ready. Very Happy
It's starting to get old. I find it odd that ChronX called Incognito for it, but no one's pointed out Ythill doing it to a far greater extent. Also, here's a contradiction which is probably minor, but bothers me:
Fair Warnings: This is my second game, though I’ve read a bunch. I’m playing the n00b card now, so I won’t be tempted to later. Also, I am of the belief that keeping some information secret can be strong town play, so don’t think of it as a scumtell if I tell you, “none of your business,” or some such thing.
This is my second game but I spent two months reading the site before I signed up. Also, my IQ is 146. Not yanking my own chain here, just explaining that I am a quick learner.
I'm new so I'll screw up, but don't worry guys I'm awesome and I'll do everything right.
ChronX
- Early jump from Xtoxm to MafiaSSK seems opportunistic, but it's way too early in the game to think the wagon would succeed. It got quite a bit farther than I expected it to. Early attacks on Ho1den/Incognito show some reaching, but it's early. I'd like some more recent things to go on.
However, since he's gone, well, I'm going to wait to build more here. I will point out it was interesting he was still going after MafiaSSK as late as page 6; but I'm under flak for sounding hostile to him in game notes. He voted him until the end, only unvoting because of his departure. This is both a mark against him, and Ythill was willing to give him a free pass for it, again, on page 6:
Ythill wrote:
ChronX wrote:
Question to the rest of the field: Is my vote on SSK still so out of the realm of realistic?
I never thought the vote was unrealistic.
Also, I'm going to throw in an IGMEOY @ Incongito. But this will be more for day two and beyond.
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As mentioned above; they're not in order. Why? Because of the posting length differences between them. I have a lot more case against Ythill, but I'm wondering if that's just because he's played more.
Still, I'm not going to post my analysis and not include a vote, so I have to pick someone.
Vote: Ythill
. Now, is this OMGUS? "Oh My God You Suck", not "Oh My God You Scum", means voting for someone because they made a mistake of voting for you. And you know you're town because of your role PM. It's poor play because others can't go on the information of your PM, and so reflexive voting doesn't give them anything to go on. But arguing a counter-case based on the thread is not OMGUS. So no, I don't consider this to be a problem. In fact, I take issue with Ythill's post here:
IMO, Incog’s interjection was less excusable than Xtoxm’s but me pointing it out aggressively would have seemed OMGUS, reducing the validity of the accusation. I figured I’d leave it for someone who wasn’t on the wagon to bring up, but I guess it’s too late for that now.
You can't attack someone if you're involved? They get a free pass? Well great, I guess you'd better unvote me now, because you wouldn't want to appear to be making an invalid accusation. I think this is a serious red flag. He's overlooking Incognito's behavior selectively. This is the reason for the IGMEOY.