Mini 508- Trouble in New Catania-Game Over

[someone2]

Tracker is an audacious claim for scum to do...

unvote:Kuribo

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[Streeflo]

I did it in Theoville Mafia.

I won't unvote. I'd like the pressure to still be there.

[kuribo]

I did it in Theoville Mafia.

I won't unvote. I'd like the pressure to still be there.

Pointless meta followed by nonsensical statement. Hey, genius? There's no pressure left once I've roleclaimed. Seriously, how much more "pressure" can you get than forcing someone to roleclaim? At this point my cards are laid bare--- Mafia will likely nightkill me now, so there's no point in lying.

[Vaughn]

Isn't it strange that Kuribo clears the second-most scummy person on your list, Thok?

[Rishi]

Unvote

I think it's a little hypocritical to criticize kuribo for claiming early, considering that I do it all the time.

[kuribo]

Isn't it strange that Kuribo clears the second-most scummy person on your list, Thok?

He was also a person that I was looking at on Day1 towards the end as fairly scummy / insignificant, hence why I investigated him in the first place.

And I claimed "early" because I was at L-2 and I didn't want a rush to judgment, or to be the victim of a deadline lynch.

[Thok]

Isn't it strange that Kuribo clears the second-most scummy person on your list, Thok?

If Kuribo is a tracker, then al his result say is that rite didn't perform the mafia kill (or any other night action). Rite could still have a partner who did the mafia kill instead of him.

[Vaughn]

Ah forgot about that.

So someone2-lynch?

[Rishi]

What happened to Lowell?

[The Fonz]

RossWilliam replaces death_omen

[RossWilliam]

hey everybody....i'm gonna read the whole thread before i opinionate, but just wanted to make my prescense known.

[Lowell]

Received another prod. In all likelihood I won't be able to post much until the new year. So, you know, sorry.

[RossWilliam]

read over everything roughly.....y'all could have your own telenovela. i read it all in one shot, though, so everything's still kinda digesting. some thoughts.......kuribo's claim does nothing for me. I can't formulate whether it's a scumtell or not, but for whatever reason my gut doubts it. I feel like Lowell is a big blustery bag of wind, and maybe the same goes to someone2. It takes a silly scum to get as big a target as both of them have. But then again, maybe they are silly scum. I'm still digesting this game, and thinking out loud (in post form, hehe) so cut me some slack if I come off as a dumbass. let's see what happens

[Thesp]

The Fonz just told me I'm replacing Rite. I won't post anything significant until he confirms this.

[The Fonz]

Thesp replaces Rite

Confirmado.

Votecount brought to you by Mafiascum personnel Inc- for all those nasty replacement issues.

kuribo 1 (Streeflo)
Someone2 2 (Vaughn, Setael)
Vaughn 1 (Lowell)
Rishi 1 (kuribo)

Not voting (6): (RossWilliam, Thesp, CrashTextDummie, Thok, someone2, Rishi)

With eleven alive, it's six to lynch.

Due to replacements and real-life issues affecting your mod, the deadline is extended to saturday, January 12th. It will not be extended further in any circumstances.

[Lowell]

I completely agree with stree on this. I'm not sure why the tracker claim satisfies everyone so easily.

unvote, vote kuribo

[CrashTextDummie]

I have to question the people currently voting Kuribo without even wanting to know if Thesp is able to verify the claim.

Having said that, here's a question for Thok:
Could you elaborate why you have Vaughn and Rishi on your town list?

I'm currently leaning towards voting one of those two, but will have to do a proper reread before I can back it with an analysis.

[kuribo]

I have to question the people currently voting Kuribo without even wanting to know if Thesp is able to verify the claim.

I'd bet dollars to donuts that one of them is scum trying to get the town to save them the trouble of NKing me, and the other is just dumb.

[Thesp]

Why is Lowell's vote hopping and all around jumpiness being vastly ignored?

I'm shocked and apalled.

OH THE IRONY IT BURNS MY EYES AND MAKES IT HARD TO TYPE KCXSDJXNUBHBDAHCBSXASDSPWOKS

I know I haven't been saying much, however there isn't much to say.

...

As to the last comment, I wanted to say that now, before it could be seen as defending or attacking someone. By stating it now as theory, I hope to head off some bad arguments on day 2. It is WIFOM reasoning, but because of WIFOM reasoning, it does not seem to me that who voted to lynch a player on day 1 is a strong indicator of who is scum under these circumstances. Someone2's post could be read to imply that we would find the scum on the 'lynch Lowell' side if Lowell is town and the 'don't lynch Lowell' side if he isn't.

Rishi hit upon this a little bit, but I found it disturbing that he claimed there was nothing to say, then expounded upon something said several pages prior.

Isn't it strange that Kuribo clears the second-most scummy person on your list, Thok?

How am I cleared? (Reading through, Thok says this as well.) (Looks like Vaughn acknowledges this. Still a weird statement.)

Having said that, here's a question for Thok:
Could you elaborate why you have Vaughn and Rishi on your town list?

I want to hear this as well, esp. re: Vaughn.

My best guess at who the scum are: Vaughn, Thok, and RossWilliam. I really, really don't like RossWilliam's first significant post. (Note: I wouldn't be surprised by a Vaughn-Rishi pair either, though I'm otherwise inclined to think of Rishi as town.)

I have to question the people currently voting Kuribo without even wanting to know if Thesp is able to verify the claim.

I'm uncertain as to what you're saying here - are you suggesting I wait to confirm/deny kuribo's claim? I'll wait for your response before proceeding in that arena.

Vote: Vaughn.

[kuribo]

I'm uncertain as to what you're saying here - are you suggesting I wait to confirm/deny kuribo's claim? I'll wait for your response before proceeding in that arena.

I don't understand his request either--- all it means is that rite didn't do any night actions. It could make him a vanilla townie, a mafia who didn't do the NK, or hell, even a vig or SK who didn't submit a kill that night. For that matter, any kind of role, if rite didn't submit a night action.

Seems to me that I'm only useful if I catch someone doing something, not just verify that they didn't.

[Thok]

Having said that, here's a question for Thok:
Could you elaborate why you have Vaughn and Rishi on your town list?

I'm currently leaning towards voting one of those two, but will have to do a proper reread before I can back it with an analysis.

Basically when I did my reread I liked a lot of the stuff Happy Sadist and Rishi said. (I think I mentioned in a few paranthetical comments in my big summary post several posts that I liked from Happy Sadist.)

Rishi alos gives the impression that he's interested in hunting scum.

[Lowell]

unvote, vote vaughn

. This is what I was trying to do earlier. I'm giong to jump on this wagon while it's still cool.

[kuribo]

unvote, vote vaughn

. This is what I was trying to do earlier. I'm giong to jump on this wagon while it's still cool.

is there anybody you haven't voted for yet?

[Vaughn]

Shrug, Let's hear more from Thesp. A confirmation would at least perhaps give direction and insight into Kuribo's claim (or designate a possible scum-pairing).

[RossWilliam]

I really, really don't like RossWilliam's first significant post.

I'm curious as to why? It could be a perfectly valid concern, or who knows. But at least give me something to explain myself on, before pigeonholing me after I've only made two posts.

P.S. Until Thesp says something significant, I'm still regarding tracker claim as a last ditch, creative effort to save ones ass.

vote: kuribo