Screw the players - Bad Idea - Game Over

[PokerFace]

WTF

Only people to shoot at Rishi were Guardian and Kinetic.

You can't tell me either of them are /in and town!

On another note I never got an answer to this.

Wow I am surprised the word "condition" confused you all so much. Sorry I used it.

At any rate while I wait to see if forensics calls me dead and h-cow is /in and town I have a question.

@Alan,

why do you believe just Jdodge, Rishi and me should be shot? Jdodge started the wagon. You think scum would give themselves away by STARTING a wagon? Could you explain more why you believe he could be scum and more so than the others? What about Hjallti and oEJo?

Alan's quote from earlier

The outs have their win conditions, they were hit by both sides. I don't need to do anything now. I hope I have helped enough.

The /outs have win conditions? I didn't think the /outs could ever win.

EDIT: The only two people to shoot Cephrir were mnowax and destructor. mnowax is not a townie, so destructor must have been Cephrir's killer. Also, JDodge, Hjallti, Rishi, PokerFace, and oEJo are /out/scum.

Right now, JDodge is the only one whose situation is really ticking me off. It seems as if he's only posted when prodded, but he's not a townie. Is he scum, or is he an /out acting like scum?

destructor, that's pointless, as we know PokerFace does not have a bullet (it would have been used on Rishi yesterday). Both PokerFace and Rishi are /out/scum, so neither can shoot the other.

Ok, so we still have seven bullets, and there are two scum remaining. Remember that each night, the mafia gets closer to deducing who the /in townies are. Today, I think we should shoot one of the following: PokerFace, Rishi, JDodge.

I would love an Answer Alan

For an Alan & Hjallti pairing seems interesting

[Kinetic]

I actually was both In and Town.

I've been playing the scum gambit so I could sit back and try and either A) Get the scum to slip, and B) Hope the scum didn't try to shoot me.

I also expected the townies to think I was out and not shoot me. My plan worked perfectly.

Also, I believe right before my second post I was prodded, before someone asked for prods. I thought that was a specific town tell that should be looked at, but everyone who posted nearly immediately after my second or third post is most likely in, especially if they posted earlier and didn't post again until after my post.

[Kinetic]

Also, I'm pretty sure, at this time, the scum are purposely hitting air so as not to reduce the number of prospective townies and win the game by attrition.

[Rishi]

Bah. Go /outties.

[PokerFace]

And in other news Kinetic fools PokerFace yet again.

For those of you keeping score...

Kinetic 2 (BTRAF1, STPBA)
PokerFace 0

Sidenote: Still waiting on that answer from Alan. I have no intention of dropping it. Especially since I think Jdodge is /out

[destructor]

You know, I feel like Bad Idea is a tough one to balance in a Screw the players format. Maybe a few townies with two shots would have made things better. Given that we can't lynch, there are no vote counts, etc, it's even more unlikely that the town will win than in the last screw the players.

That said, there is still hope, and I think we can start narrowing down the /in crowd, though it seems more anti-town /outs have hung around this game. It's time for all the pro-towners to reread and stuff. I also think going with the Shoot/Shooter vote format is most likely to work in the town's favour from now on. That is, no townie should shoot until a large number of players, not including the confirmed /out/scum, have come to a consensus.

Again:

Discussion is good. Talk first, shoot later.

=)

[bird1111]

richie181818 (12:53:00 PM): I'm calling it now, town loses

[PokerFace]

SideNote: I wasn't around to /in for the original bad idea mafia. Nor was I around for the second one. Someone with Mod privleges needs to make a Bad Idea Mafia Three! And PM me when it starts signups. Bird1111 you got mod powers, right?

Alan get in here!

[JDGA]

@PF: I'll join that!

[PokerFace]

@PF: I'll join that!

Good now I know who to kill 5 minutes into the game [/jk]

At any rate you'll just have to wait for someone with mod privleges to do it. I do not have those privleges and I would rather play then mod such a game anyway.


ALAN!

[Guardian]

Still here, no more bullets tho, I assume. Did Kinetic shoot first, or me?

[Elias_the_thief]

I SHOT FIRST, BITCH!

[oEJo]

I'm still /in/scum.

[hasdgfas]

I still think Alan is scum

[brokenscraps]

I think this is the first day the town could potentially lose on... the tension is rising!

[oEJo]

We should kill the townies then.

[Alan Redgown]

I think this is the first day the town could potentially lose on... the tension is rising!

Oh, you're right. We should just shoot randomly at people, then!

I mean...don't. Because that would be a Bad Idea.

[PokerFace]

Quit dodging my question and aswer it, Alan!

@Alan, why do you believe just Jdodge, Rishi and me should be shot? Jdodge started the wagon. You think scum would give themselves away by STARTING a wagon? Could you explain more why you believe he could be scum and more so than the others? What about Hjallti and oEJo?

<so wish I could shoot right now!

[PokerFace]

Until Alan answers,
this is my vote.

It should determine at least one scum

Vote:
Shooter: Alan
Target: Hjallti or Guardian

If Alan won't shoot then he is definatly scum! So whoever wants to kill him can take it! He certainly ain't an /out. And Both guardian and Hjallti don't have bullets.

And if Alan is scum I will bet Hjallti is the other!

[Guardian]

i agree with alan as scum

[YagamiLight]

I agree with pokerface.

Vote:
Shooter: Alan
Target: Hjallti

[Alan Redgown]

If I won't shoot, I'm definitely scum? How about a townie who doesn't want to lose the game yet? If Hjallti isn't scum and I shoot him, then the town loses. Well, it's down to two townies with bullets, and I'm one of them. I agree I should shoot today, but I'm not going to do it right away. I think we need more discussion first. And I need some time to think things over.

To the other remaining townie with a bullet, I have two requests. First, please don't shoot me, unless you want the scum to win. Second, please let me be the one to shoot and end the day; I suspect I'll be scumkilled if I don't use my bullet today. I think these requests are fairly simple, since people want me to shoot today anyway.

Now it's time to look over everyone's posts and make a final decision on whom to shoot.

EDIT:

@Alan, why do you believe just Jdodge, Rishi and me should be shot? Jdodge started the wagon. You think scum would give themselves away by STARTING a wagon? Could you explain more why you believe he could be scum and more so than the others? What about Hjallti and oEJo?

I posted that a while ago now, and my opinions have changed greatly. I highly doubt that JDodge is scum, and Rishi obviously isn't. I don't think you're scum either. Hjallti and oEJo do seem like likely suspects now, and at the time I probably just overlooked them. At the time of that post, I also said that JDodge's posting habits were really ticking me off, but that wasn't reason to suspect him as scum. I don't think any of this pertains to the current situation, however.

[Guardian]

bs

shoot: Alan

pretty sure my bullet is gone tho .

[PokerFace]

I agree with guardian that your reason is lacking.

Frankly I am a little surprised you are still alive today; after all you said

Alan, another of those list thingies would be nice, if possible.

Actually, I've already started on another list. It's in spreadsheet form, so I'll probably upload it to Google Docs & Spreadsheets.

If scum were smart they would have killed you so you couldn't give us this spreadsheet.

How about you give us the spreadsheet, explain who you think are scum or /out and then take your shot?

As long as you shoot and hit scum then you are useful otherwise we are screwed (Well the /ins are I'm not). By showing the sheet we can criticize and all figure out together who is best to be your target.

[Alan Redgown]

Wait. According to the list in the first post, there are still three townies with bullets. Is that accurate?

Also, PokerFace, you seem pretty eager to figure out who are /out/scum. Shouldn't we be focusing on who we think are scum, rather than /out/scum?

EDIT: I'm working on the spreadsheet now, but I don't want to post a link until it's finished.

Ok, the following question is significant, as it could help us narrow down our suspects, at least by a little bit: Who do you guys think the four shooters were?

1. Shot Jordan:
a. CornerMan
b. YvonneSeer
c. Cephrir
d. Klebian
e. Thestatusquo
2. Shot Skitzer:
a. Iceforge
3. Shot Cephrir:
a. Mnowax
b. Destructor
4. Shot Rishi:
a. Guardian
b. Kinetic

(I'm aware that some of those people definitely didn't shoot certain victims, but please don't point that out. I want to see people's individual opinions/thoughts.)