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Post Post #275 (ISO) » Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:26 pm

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Bookitty - I get easily frustrated when players misconstrue my words.

When I said "no one likes a town leader" I was pointing out that no one likes "being told what to do". I would have thought this implication was obvious so I became frustrated when you claim something akin to me saying I was declaring myself town leader.

Similar problems apply to 3-4 other things you wrote.

PS: If you really want to push my buttons, you should probably reply now and say something like:
Bookitty wrote: Accuse someone of being nasty immediately after accusing them of being overly conciliatory, and they resort back to being overly conciliatory. Never fails.
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Post Post #276 (ISO) » Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:29 pm

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I should probably refer you to the Earth/Fire/Wind/Water thread that was in Mafia Discussion. I'm the only player around who qualifies as 'Heart'. My emotions run wild and free, regardless of alignment, up and down, depending on how I feel from moment to moment. I have no doubt it will always look suspicious until one becomes used to it. :)
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Post Post #277 (ISO) » Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:38 pm

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....and, goodcopMills is back. I daresay that should we refuse to say It's OK, you crazy newbie and give him a hug, badcopMills will come back. I'm not sure whether this behaviour is scummy or not, but it certainly is erratic. The last sentence smells like a bad attempt at an excuse to me. I'm still divided, but if I had a gun to my head, I'd say he was a good lynch for today.
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Post Post #278 (ISO) » Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:39 pm

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Post Post #279 (ISO) » Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:41 pm

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Someone very wise once wrote:See the little title next to your name? The one that says "goon"? That's the one that makes the whole condenscension jig fall on its face.
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Post Post #280 (ISO) » Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:45 pm

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Phate wrote:xD. Meant:

We should not be lynching antitown players. We should be lynching proscum players.
You are not using those words in the way I use those words.
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Post Post #281 (ISO) » Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:46 pm

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1. You need to learn to spell 'condescension'. It hurts my mind if you are going to keep quoting that word.

2. Being new to mafia on
this particular site
does not make me new to mafia.
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Post Post #282 (ISO) » Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:50 pm

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Bookitty wrote:Sadly, it's also a very common scumtell. Town tends to be calmer because they can win even if they're lynched. They have no scumbuddies to protect. ?
I smell a 'too defensive' argument...

Anger, if anything, is a town tell.
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Post Post #283 (ISO) » Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:03 pm

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antitown = someone whose behaviour is harmful to town.

proscum = someone who is actively trying to help scum.
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Post Post #284 (ISO) » Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:11 pm

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The Fonz wrote:
Bookitty wrote:Sadly, it's also a very common scumtell. Town tends to be calmer because they can win even if they're lynched. They have no scumbuddies to protect. ?
I smell a 'too defensive' argument...

Anger, if anything, is a town tell.
What do you think of the inconsistencies in Mills' reactions that I pointed out earlier?
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Post Post #285 (ISO) » Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:27 pm

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Bookitty wrote:What do you think of the inconsistencies in Mills' reactions that I pointed out earlier?
I don't see them.
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Post Post #286 (ISO) » Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:33 pm

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You don't find it odd that Mills attacked Dark Ermac pretty strongly on a semantics issue, and then defended him on a much more telling one?

Hmmm.
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Post Post #287 (ISO) » Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:39 pm

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Bookitty wrote:You don't find it odd that Mills attacked Dark Ermac pretty strongly on a semantics issue, and then defended him on a much more telling one?

Hmmm.
You
find it odd because:

(i)
you
don't share my opinion over DE's posts;

(ii)
you
consider the second iteration to be the more telling of the two;

You're barking up a subjective tree. You can't villify people for having a different opinion. It's simply erroneous logic.
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Post Post #288 (ISO) » Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:45 pm

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Mills wrote:
You
find it odd because:

(i)
you
don't share my opinion over DE's posts;

(ii)
you
consider the second iteration to be the more telling of the two;

You're barking up a subjective tree. You can't villify people for having a different opinion. It's simply erroneous logic.
I think you've exactly done that to me for having a different opinion than you, Mills. You've insulted my playing ability on two separate occasions for having a different opinion from you, and I didn't insult you, even in return.

So how do you justify that behaviour? Is it simply "erroneous logic"?

And whom did I vilify, exactly? I'd like to see quotes supporting that.
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Post Post #289 (ISO) » Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:49 pm

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Insulting you is not erroneous logic. There is no logic involved in insulting you. I insulted you because I felt like it. I find your accusations laughable. *shrug*

You are trying to vilify me. It might help if you remember your own posts.

In any case, I have grown quickly tired of this sniping. Au Revoir.
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Post Post #290 (ISO) » Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:55 pm

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Do you know what the word "vilify" means? I made a case against you, because I found some of your actions questionable. In your own misspelled words,
Mills wrote:Welome to Mafia
And yes, admitting that you're resorting to ad hominem "because I felt like it" makes your arguments seem far more reasonable. Well done.

Calling someone's accusations "laughable" does not a defense make. Neither do random insults and refusing to reasonably address a case made against you. It just makes it look like you don't have an answer, which in fact may be true.
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Post Post #291 (ISO) » Tue Jan 08, 2008 4:01 pm

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Bookitty wrote:You don't find it odd that Mills attacked Dark Ermac pretty strongly on a semantics issue, and then defended him on a much more telling one?

Hmmm.
Both are sematics issues. Scum are less likely change their minds than townies. Mills's behavior says nothing until we get more info.
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Post Post #292 (ISO) » Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:06 pm

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Scum are less likely change their minds than townies.
WRONG. In much smaller games, such as those played on IRC, this may be true. However, in forum mafia, scum tend to be more opportunistic, and may jump from wagon to wagon. In fact, people who stay on one person consistently are actually more likely to be town, even if they're wrong. Example of such a Pitbull Townie: BattleMage.
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Post Post #293 (ISO) » Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:19 pm

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I'll put that logic on hold for now.
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Post Post #294 (ISO) » Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:21 pm

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Too lazy for a votecount now, should have one tomorrow. Searching for a replacement for Sensfan
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Post Post #295 (ISO) » Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:38 pm

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Hey people. I was get to reading here.
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Post Post #296 (ISO) » Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:45 pm

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Sorry guys, I speek the engrish not so good. :)
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Post Post #297 (ISO) » Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:50 pm

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Post Post #298 (ISO) » Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:51 pm

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Hey there Hasdfgasd *wink wink*
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Post Post #299 (ISO) » Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:51 pm

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