Mini 546: House Mafia - Game Over

[curiouskarmadog]

ok caught up (actually I wasnt but a half a page behind)..

TG seems to have many problems with many things....

question, do you have a problem with pooky's "we"

do you have a problem with the votes that followed, or do you think it was mostly random voting?

[curiouskarmadog]

wtf, the site is still screwed up....sorry for the now triple post.

what is the deal and will it ever be fixed?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Vote count

Pooky - Shafted, Karma
Armlx - Erg0, Jive
Erg0 - Armlx
TrustGossip - Dean, Volkan, Adel
Adel - Pooky

Remember to remove your vote before voting anew.

With 10 doctors active, its 6 to trick one into losing his position.

[TrustGossip]

I am not currently voting Dean, my

unvote

was at the top of my post. If I am in error please tell me.

In response to curious: I do not have a problem with Pooky's "we".

Could you explain your issue with it? Or is it one of those nitty little feelings you get in the bottom of your gut?

With regards to erg0: My apologies but Candy Mafia is probably the worst meta representation of me ever for certain reasons. However, as I am basing my judgment of Pooky mostly on playing Battle Royale with him, I cannot say that one game has no bearing on character.

[Adel]

mod:

who is Armix voting for, me or ErgO? You have his name listed after both of us in your last votecount.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Fixed.

[shaft.ed]

Welp as usual D1's aren't so easy to pick out odd behaviors. So far I'd say I'm not liking:

Adel for using her team as a bandwagoning tool.
Armlx for his worry of putting too many votes on TrustGossip (3) but then quickly following (or at least trying to) Pooky's vote onto Adel. Seems he's paying a lot of attention to how big a bandwagon he is making.
JiveMachine for saying that 1 vote is enough to pressure someone. Since when is one vote ever enough?

[vollkan]

Time for some argument methinks:

Dean votes TG for lurking, despite not having actually made any meaningful contribution of his own. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and peg this as a random vote...albeit for a dubious reason.

After a few noise posts, Dean states that the bandwagon on TG (3/6: Dean, voll, Adel) is a suitable size to get TG "talking". Now we have what was a random wagon being called a pressure wagon by Dean - the same Dean whose contribution to that point was basically just a string of noise.

Then, to top it off, Dean says:

my vote was to help apply pressure, the not posting for half of the thread thing was just a bit of sarcasm.

Obviously beg the question "Apply pressure over what?!". Moreover, however, Dean's vote did not "help apply pressure" - since he was the first to join the wagon and a single vote is not pressure and definitely does not "help apply pressure" (which implies that he is aiding other people, which he wasn't because he was the first).

[Erg0]

I'd like Adel and Dean to respond to my questions on the previous page.

[curiouskarmadog]

Could you explain your issue with it? Or is it one of those nitty little feelings you get in the bottom of your gut?

yeah..it is gut...I didnt like the use of "we" and there was nothing else to go on in the random stage....nothing has popped up yet that I deem scummier, so my vote stays.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I like how Volkan is focussing suspicion on members of the other team.

It's pretty pro.

[shaft.ed]

I like how Volkan is focussing suspicion on members of the other team.

It's pretty pro.

I like how Pooky is casting aside arguments because they are directed at memebers of the other team.

It's pretty pro.

[Adel]

I'd like Adel and Dean to respond to my questions on the previous page.

Which questions?

[Erg0]

Why would the first group be more likely to contain scum? Strength in numbers -- they would be the group more likely to pay attention to the rules and knew immediately they could team up.

A query: which of the teams would you call the "first" based on this theory? Pooky certainly volunteered to lead first, but vollkan's team filled more quickly at the beginning of the game. I know both team leaders to be competent players, so I just chose the team with least members, which was when the numbers evened up at 3 apiece. If scum were more motivated to join teams early, then I'd argue that it would be

your

team that's more likely to contain scum.

This one is for you.

[Adel]

Pooky was the first to attract others, Volkans was the first to fill... but I guess I see your point. I still like the wagon I'm on though, so I won't unvote.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I like how shafted is opposed to building a bipartisan consensus

it's pretty pro.

[TrustGossip]

{present evidence}

TAKE THAT!!!

Pooky was the first to attract others, Volkans was the first to fill... but I guess I see your point. I still like the wagon I'm on though, so I won't unvote.

Explain to me why you like this wagon on me.

According to your only argument, the "first" team is more likely to contain scum. I take it this means Pooky's team. Unfortunately, I'm the only person who did not get to choose his own team but was instead shuffled into the team with the open spot because I was away from the site for a while. So by your vote staying on me I take it you want information regarding my... non-commitment to a team? Even though this is counterintuitive to the only justification of your bandwagoning?

[Adel]

when did I ask for more information?
I'm just chilling out on your wagon until three more players join me. Then we will hang you and call it a day.

I don't think it is a big deal.

[shaft.ed]

So you believe you have evidence to justify a lynching then?

[armlx]

Actually, Trust, I'm fairly sure non-commitment is the most scummy thing you can do.

However, my sick reads tell me you aren't scum. Neither is Ergo.

Unvote

I'm about 80% sure on Adel & Shaft. 20% on Volkan. 60% Pooky. 40% Karmadog.

Guess I'll do this

Vote curiouskarmadog

Smacking Pooky too hard for the wrong reasons. Could be double scum tell (makes valid arguement vs other scum that isn't enough to get him lynched, good set up for both), rather lynch him and find out.

[vollkan]

I like how Volkan is focussing suspicion on members of the other team.

It's pretty pro.

Pardon?

The only player on LU I have expressed any suspicion of was Dean - a far cry from "focussing suspicion on member

s

of the other team".

I'm about 80% sure on Adel & Shaft. 20% on Volkan. 60% Pooky. 40% Karmadog.

Could you explain what you mean here? I gather it is your certainty that players are town or scum...but I don't know which.

[Adel]

Actually, Trust, I'm fairly sure non-commitment is the most scummy thing you can do.

However, my sick reads tell me you aren't scum. Neither is Ergo.

Unvote

Guess I'll do this

Vote curiouskarmadog

Smacking Pooky too hard for the wrong reasons. Could be double scum tell (makes valid arguement vs other scum that isn't enough to get him lynched, good set up for both), rather lynch him and find out.

I like those reason -- much better than my current ones.

unvote, vote:curiouskarmadog

[Dean Harper]

Erg0, what question did you have for me?

[Erg0]

apply pressure to TG, because i personally wanted to hear somehting from him.

You don't feel that post 85 counts as hearing something from him? What are you expecting him to say with more votes on him?

That one. Is it really so much to ask for people to read back one page?

[curiouskarmadog]

I understand Arm's, perspective and vote but....

Actually, Trust, I'm fairly sure non-commitment is the most scummy thing you can do.

However, my sick reads tell me you aren't scum. Neither is Ergo.

Unvote

Guess I'll do this

Vote curiouskarmadog

Smacking Pooky too hard for the wrong reasons. Could be double scum tell (makes valid arguement vs other scum that isn't enough to get him lynched, good set up for both), rather lynch him and find out.

I like those reason -- much better than my current ones.

unvote, vote:curiouskarmadog

ummm???

non random vote: pooky

, I think it was a slip up

qft

non random vote: pooky

doesnt that seem a little hypocritical to you? Now why would Adel jump on a bandwagon given that reason, when she did the same thing? I know Adel can think for herself....guess we have found something scummier than the "we"

unvote, vote Adel