Mini 546: House Mafia - Game Over

[TheJiveMachine]

FoS: Pooky

for strongly pushing a shafted lynch without voting for him

[Adel]

why is Jive machine so hesitant to vote? Afraid of a voting record?

[vollkan]

The question posed was not as to whether this game of mafia was more like diagnostic medicine but mafia in general.

But the scenario you posit (100 people and the scum are known to be among a selected 12) never comes up in the game of mafia, generally.

The obvious answer is that in Mafia, we do not need to prove guilt beyond any doubt, whereas you would need to show that in a court of law.

This is also true in diagnostic medicine, the doctors do not need to prove it is due to a specific disease or cause beyond any doubt, but rather can act on a fairly good guess.

You can apply my diagnostic medicine approach by lynching Shafted.

Obviously the evidential standard here is lower than in a criminal trial. It has to be.

Now, you say the diagnostic medicine approach simply needs a "good guess". What determines a "good guess" from a "bad guess"?

FoS: Pooky for strongly pushing a shafted lynch without voting for him

Why is "pushing a shafted lynch without voting for him" FoSworthy and not voteworthy?

[TheJiveMachine]

Vote: Pooky

[vollkan]

You didn't actually answer my question.

Now you get a new question as well:

Why was Pooky's behaviour only worthy of a FoS before Adel called you out and I questioned you, but is now worthy of a vote?

[armlx]

Wow, just when I thought we had hit max scummy, someone decides to make us have a decision. I'm sticking with my vote for Shaft right now, but Jive is rising to match his scumminess very quickly. Nice backtrack.

[curiouskarmadog]

vote armix

on an ongoing hunch.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

do you expect us to lynch him based on your hunch?

[Adel]

this game is like the mafia version of a slow race.

[shaft.ed]

do you expect us to lynch him based on your hunch?

Pot: "Hey kettle, you're black"

So first you wanted to lynch me but you couldn't reveal the reasons:

What do you want me to contribute to this game other than who I think are scum?

I am not giving you my recipe for my special cookies.

they are age old family secret.

Then you stated that you may not even have any reasons:

In the field of diagnostic medicine, reasons are overrated.

The same is true of mafia.

So which is it, do you have no reasons at all, or are they super top secret Dick Cheney level secret reasons?


Armlx much like Pooky you are basically claiming me as 100% scum without stating any evidence to back it up

Wow, just when I thought we had hit max scummy, someone decides to make us have a decision. I'm sticking with my vote for Shaft right now, but Jive is rising to match his scumminess very quickly. Nice backtrack.

Would you also care to elaborate your case. Could you also compare Jive's play to mine since you state that he's almost caught up with my obvious level of scuminess? I personally feel his play has been more erratic than my single lazy post. And he's also adjusting his actions (e.g. ratcheting up to a vote) after light pressure.

[armlx]

Hence what I meant by nice back track.

Jive is fidgetting under pressure, lurking, flip flipping, and bandwagonning in was as to not leave traces on vote counts.

Your posts acted like they said something and just didn't, tried to press wagons, and especially your reaction to pressure for the first 4ish posts.

[curiouskarmadog]

do you expect us to lynch him based on your hunch?

did I ask for your vote? a hunch is what it is..you decide for yourself, if I think I have a case, I will present it..but maybe I am just looking for what happens next.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

So you don't want me to vote him?

[curiouskarmadog]

I think he is scum...on a hunch.

I want to lynch scum...so yes.

[TrustGossip]

I can't post.

Heath Ledger is dead.

Oh my god.

[TheJiveMachine]

I think he is scum...on a hunch.

I want to lynch scum...so yes.

So you want to lynch someone on a hunch, despite the fact that myself, shafted, and (depending on who you ask) Pooky are acting identifiably scummy?

[curiouskarmadog]

I think he is scum...on a hunch.

I want to lynch scum...so yes.

So you want to lynch someone on a hunch, despite the fact that myself, shafted, and (depending on who you ask) Pooky are acting identifiably scummy?

What are you really asking me? ..actually, what are you trying to imply at this point in the game?

[TheJiveMachine]

I think he is scum...on a hunch.

I want to lynch scum...so yes.

So you want to lynch someone on a hunch, despite the fact that myself, shafted, and (depending on who you ask) Pooky are acting identifiably scummy?

What are you really asking me? ..actually, what are you trying to imply at this point in the game?

At this point in the game, I'm implying that I found your post scummy, because you are fully supportive ofa lynch that your only reasoning for is a hunch? I think?

[vollkan]

Jive, for someone who is, by their own admission, "acting identifiably scummy" I find I perplexing that you aren't answering any of my questions...

...Oh wait, you're deflecting onto CKD - my mistake.

[TheJiveMachine]

Jive, for someone who is, by their own admission, "acting identifiably scummy" I find I perplexing that you aren't answering any of my questions...

...Oh wait, you're deflecting onto CKD - my mistake.

Of course

Anyways, I didn't initially vote for pooky because it would look like votehopping, which it basically was.

[Adel]

after 215 and 219, I'm astonished that J. Machine is still alive.

[shaft.ed]

after 215 and 219, I'm astonished that J. Machine is still alive.

If you're that astonished why is your vote not on him?

Jive please answer Vollkan's questions.

[Adel]

it is. Why can't you pay attention to detail? Do you really think you can hack it in the medical world?

[shaft.ed]

it is. Why can't you pay attention to detail? Do you really think you can hack it in the medical world?

Didn't realize you were intentionally messing up your bold tags. You are a tricky one.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

J.Machine, what is a higher priority for you, catching scum or staying alive?