Mafia 75: Return of the Mafia! TOWN WINS (really late)

[Peers]

that sounds pretty reasonable. Ooi, Khelv, would you have vigged someone N0 in this game?

Yes, I would have. The difference between 28 and 27 live townies at a start of a game is negligible, while the difference between X and X-1 mafia is much larger. The usefulness of mafia increases exponentially, the usefulness of townies decreases with each additional townie added.

And then you get into the arguement of power role to vanilla ratio vs power mafia to mafia ratio...

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

And then we're arguing about whether or not to do something that either did or did not already happen.

[Nemesis]

And then we're arguing about whether or not to do something that either did or did not already happen.

Alternatively you are debating whether or not a vig should be firing into the dark... If the day ended now, a vig might think they have enough information on someone to shoot them... People's views on this would be interesting and not entirely pointless.

Although I leave my standard clause of mafia discussion must have already had this discussion.

[armlx]

N0 vig kills are bad. N1 vig kills can be justified. Simple as that.

[curiouskarmadog]

is conversation about the vig helping anyone else?

[QuickBen]

N0 vig kills are bad. N1 vig kills can be justified. Simple as that.

QFT

[armlx]

is conversation about the vig helping anyone else?

It's teaching people how to play the game better. So in the context of this game, no. In the context of the meta, yes. And it's not hurting this one.

[curiouskarmadog]

how many more pages you think we should give to the conversation before you scum hunt more?

[armlx]

0, its purpose has been served (AKA vig should not kill someone unless they have logical reason to believe they are scum).

I'm in the process of looking at everyone's posts. So far I'm not liking WhoMe? on top of the 2 people I already said (3 with watching BM to ensure claim). I'll look closer later to see exactly what it is I don't like.

[JordanA24]

Updated Vote Count, and I'm prodding NextEpisode and andersonw.

Oh, and Happy Birthday Matt_S!

[thenextepisode]

im here.

[Nemesis]

Happy scumday WhoMe and happy birthday Matt_S.

Thenextepisode, do you have anything else to add? I think that's your second post, so do you have any new views since your last one?

[Battle Mage]

N0 vig kills are bad. N1 vig kills can be justified. Simple as that.

QFT

Im sorry, but despite being V/LA, i couldnt ignore this terrible lack of foresight on your parts.
I mean, dont think about the ROLES getting vigged. Think about the PLAYERS. Some players make hugely tempting N0 vig targets, simply because they are so anti-town and crap at mafia, that their death becomes a win-win situation.

Of course, i dont think that applies in this game, but generally speaking, you are talking bs.

BM

[Matt_S]

Since the only new discussion is meta stuff which I don't know about, I don't have much to add. I probably would have vigged night 0 simply because there's so many people and, like Khelvaster said, a miskill wouldn't be that big hopefully, but a scum kill would rock.

And thanks for the happy birthdays.

[thenextepisode]

no, basically the whole thing has just been circular logic, talking about setups, whter the vig should kill N0, cult recruiters, etc.
i dont really see any scum hunting going down

[oEJo]

Allow me.

Vote: thenextepisode

[thenextepisode]

umm. ok.
why do you think i'm scum?

[oEJo]

Town want to hunt scum.
You are not hunting scum.
Therefore, you are not town.

[thenextepisode]

who said i wasn't hunting scum?
i said.
"i dont see any scum hunting going down"
which means i dont see anything of meaning being posted.
i dont see anyone posting for the sake of finding scum rather than for the sake of figuring out the setup or the cult stuff or the vig.
right now nothing meaningful has happened besides your jumping on me for no reason.

[oEJo]

who said i wasn't hunting scum?

I have a perfectly valid reason. If you show me where you've proactively hunted scum this game, I'll unvote you.

[killa seven]

yea we need to get back to scum hunting and calm down on the vig talk, the game has slowed i been gone for 2 days and nothingf has happened, oh and oejo why u vote on the next episode so fast?

[oEJo]

Town want to hunt scum.
You are not hunting scum.
Therefore, you are not town.

[killa seven]

i see, valid.

[Nemesis]

yea we need to get back to scum hunting and calm down on the vig talk, the game has slowed i been gone for 2 days and nothingf has happened, oh and oejo why u vote on the next episode so fast?

The vig talk was the only thing happening... It doesn't actually stop people from talking about other things too. When the vig talk stopped, all other talk virtually stopped.

i dont really see any scum hunting going down

How do you think this works?

You'd made 2 posts before posting this. So either you wern't scumhunting yourself, or you were trying not to post much so people couldn't analyze you.. Or both.

Talking about "circular logic, talking about setups, whter the vig should kill N0, cult recruiters, etc" has got to be talking about absolutely nothing...

[VanDamien]

thenextepsiode, please list your top two likely scum, and top two likely town, giving reasoning for each.

Or, earn my vote also.