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Skruffs Pantsman
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GOD that game pissed me off
One NK per night vs Super Doc, Cop w/ Guardian, 2xMason, 3x Townie (With unique role names), BP Vest (2-shot), Vigilante, REgular Doc, and Tooth Fairy. We had a mafia cop who we didn't know about on our side, and a miller, and nothing else. Adn it turned out the role names were all from a game that the mod didn't even tell us about, so when we fake claimed, the town could see we were lying. I didn't like that game.-
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Claus Mafia Scum
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Indeed, not a role that will survive to the endgame.
I like the Rosso Carne bandwagon. Just re-read him... and there is nothing to read there. If it gets 24h to deadline and RC is not lynched yet, you can count on me jumping on this bandwagon.
FOS: Rosso Carne
That said, right now I'd rather
Vote: Thesp
Because this wagon needs more care and loving.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVVmAG0RXmo-
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Thestatusquo He/HimSheaHe/Him
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Claus, do you really think we have a tracker in addition to the info role we already have dead which implies another like it? I don't think there are three information roles in this game. Combine that with guardians (and really scum in general's) preoccupation with claiming info roles, I think we've caught scum here.tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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Guardian Mafia Scum
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Skruffs Pantsman
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Guardian Mafia Scum
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Yeah, I'm pretty useful. I can see the meta-gaming though; as scum when I've fake claimed, I think I've always claimed info roles. Not sure I've ever claimed vanilla, even.
Skruffs, you do make a good point at refuting how my role "couldn't fit in the setup" though. Maybe people will consider that.
Hadn't thought once I'd claimed people who weren't voting me before would then vote me o.O.Do not lynch me.
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Claus Mafia Scum
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Thestatusquo He/HimSheaHe/Him
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Claus Mafia Scum
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Twomz Cliqued On
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A game with 26 players and 2+ scum groups? I'd say 4 or 5 investigative roles + docs and vigs. But, that's all just guesswork and we won't be nailing down any numbers until much later in the game."It's not a logical inconsistency. B can't be correct because then C would be, but it doesn't go the other way - there's nothing wrong with C being correct. Aside from Twomz saying otherwise." --Mith-
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Gorrad Mafia Scum
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Mostly I just want to know why such a minor point is any part of your argument whatsoever on page 38. Yeah, it's ok to talk about it (although not bandwagon it) when there's nothing else to go on, but it's page 38. We have PLENTY to talk about.Guardian wrote:Well, Gorrad, at what time in the game are you referring to? When I first brought it up, I thought it was the best thing we had in the game.
Now, I look as it as adding to the fact that Iammars's play has been rather lurky and not town-helpful. At this point, it is part of my suspicion for Iammars, not the totality.
Auto-FoS to anyone who brings up the pirate confirmation as a scumtell
Seriously. Drop it. It's NOTHING. Don't think that I'm defending Mars, I generally haven't liked his play so far (especially the wiki part. It just seems like he's trying to hedge his bets if someone asks 'hey, who is a pro-town pirate?'), but bringing up a piratey confirmation as a scumtell just seems desperate to seem active and scumhunting.
The dead horse is beaten. It drops a subject change- Thesp: Scummy or Very Scummy?I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Erg0 Mafia Scum
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Unvote, Vote: Thesp
I'm never a fan of lynching claimed power roles on day 1, regardless of how weak the flavour may be. If we were going after the last scum I'd lynch Guardian, but at this stage of the game there's a good chance that he'll trip himself up before long if he's lying.
Thesp has gone from pushing a bad wagon to pushing multiple iffy wagons. He's a good plan B in my eyes."You were doing well until everyone died."
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Guardian Mafia Scum
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Guardian: 5 (Thok, Flameaxe, Iammars, Kison, Thestatusquo)
Rosso Carne: 4 (Guardian, Twomz, cicero, Thesp)
Thesp: 4 (Gorrad, MGM, Claus, Erg0)
KaleiÐoscøpe: 3 (hasdgfas, Rosso Carne, mikeburnfire)
mikeburnfire: 2 (JordanA24, The Fonz)
Not voting: 6 (Skruffs, Samruc, MrBuddyLee, UltimaAvalon, KaleiÐoscøpe, Xtoxm)
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I think the above is accurate, but correct me if wrong.
The votes on Kscope are outdated, I don't think it is reasonable to lynch him today.
I would say the votes on me are outdated, but Thok and TSQ do have some interesting meta-game logic on me... I agree with Skruffs that the role definitely "fits" in the game, though.
Just, really, you want to lynch a tracker day 1 after I've claimed?? Me having claimed is bad enough. Me being likely to be lynched later in the game is bad enough. But let me try and get some meaningful results first, no??
Thesp I found scummy earlier, but not sure I buy into a wagon of him now, again relying somewhat heavily on cicero's logic.
Rosso, well, obviously I support that.
MBF is an interesting alternative, I could see supporting his wagon, but I don't see a compelling reason to lynch him instead of RC.
My backup to RC would probably be MBF, but I'm hoping for a RC lynch, at this point.'
Twomz is not completely out of the picture for me, too, but he's not high ranked.
We have less than 48 hours, by my count, to find a lynch.Do not lynch me.
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Thok Disgrace to SKs everywhere
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Blah. It looks like Guardian isn't going to be today's lynch, even though there's no reason to trust his claim.
unvote, vote Rosso Carne
I think my repeated disapproval of a Thesp wagon should be clear. He hasn't had any of the sort of kind of wishy-washiness that I see in Guardian/TSQ in terms of choosing their targets (take look at Guardian/TSQ's posts and you'll see a bunch of "Eh, I could see X as scum" comments that never get followed up on unless X is actually being wagonned; this suggests that Thesp actually has standards for his bandwagons while Guardian/TSQ are scum trying to get whatever wagon they can take.
I could see running up TSQ or Xtoxm as an alternative to Rosso Carne (the former would probably be in a distinct scum group from hypoGuardian scum, the latter has a chance to be hypoGuardian scum partner.)I replaced into Chess Mafia for 6 months, and all I got was a win and this lousy sig.-
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Xtoxm EBWOXM
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hasdgfas Jack of All Trades
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Thestatusquo He/HimSheaHe/Him
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Thok, I hsvr breen wishy washy about one thing and one thing only in this game, the lurkers. Everything else I have taken a pretty hard stand on. Are you even reading my posts? I make one wishy washy stand and then all of a sudden thats been my play all game when you've never attacked me for it before?tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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Thok Disgrace to SKs everywhere
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TSQ-here's what I've seen that I would consider "wishy-washy"
Post 245, when there's a big Thesp/Guardian argument going on, with people generally being more suspicious of Thesp than Guardian.
A couple posts lately, when Guardian tosses out Thesp-Thok scum possibilityThestatusquo wrote:I too noted that, though I am not sure what my read on Thesp is. (leaning on agreeing with guardian, though.)
Post 543 when the KScope wagon starts rolling.Thestatusquo wrote:I could see thesp thok, but not nearly as strongly as you are positing it. In addition, I think it's way too early to be looking for scumpairs. Lets just find one scum first, K? Then we can focus on their partners.
There's actually less of this in your posts than I expected, but it's still there to some extent. Actually going over this makes me feel a bit better about you.Thestatusquo wrote:I do like votes on kscope myself, as well. I would caution however that SirT always seems to play this way on day one. Kscope as well, even, so never mind I don't know how I actually feel about that.
Twomz, the only person I have ever actually seen that meta work on was creampuffeater.I replaced into Chess Mafia for 6 months, and all I got was a win and this lousy sig.-
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Mgm Mafia Scum
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Nothing of the sort: it merely suggests Thesp is more careful and covert than Guardian and TSQ. Scumbags are rarely this blatant and if they are, I doubt more than one scum are going to apply the same dangerous strategy this early in the game.Thok wrote:I think my repeated disapproval of a Thesp wagon should be clear. He hasn't had any of the sort of kind of wishy-washiness that I see in Guardian/TSQ in terms of choosing their targets (take look at Guardian/TSQ's posts and you'll see a bunch of "Eh, I could see X as scum" comments that never get followed up on unless X is actually being wagonned; this suggests that Thesp actually has standards for his bandwagons while Guardian/TSQ are scum trying to get whatever wagon they can take.
I think calling Guardian out for being the only fictional non-main character leaves enough space to lynch him, but -given the choice- I'd rather lynch Thesp and see if Guardian can come up with some clarifying results before opting to lynch him.Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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Thok Disgrace to SKs everywhere
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You do realize that the sort of thing I'm pointing out isn't "blatant" at all?Mgm wrote:Nothing of the sort: it merely suggests Thesp is more careful and covert than Guardian and TSQ. Scumbags are rarely this blatant and if they are, I doubt more than one scum are going to apply the same dangerous strategy this early in the game.I replaced into Chess Mafia for 6 months, and all I got was a win and this lousy sig.-
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Erg0 Mafia Scum
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Your OMGUS has been noted.Xtoxm wrote:
I don't like the way he's trying to get Guardian lynched despite the claim I think his roleclaim fits and guardian looks town and now he's accused me too.hasdgfas wrote:Xtoxm wrote:I think Thok is scumvote Thok
Mind elaborating at all?"You were doing well until everyone died."
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Mgm Mafia Scum
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Post 938 second paragraph. You describe them as posting crap to see what sticks and forms a wagon to follow. That is about as blatant as you can get.Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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Thestatusquo He/HimSheaHe/Him
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How is the second quote at all "wishy washy?" I grant the possibility of a thok-thesp scumpair, and say that I don't think it's hugely likely... and then I go on to take the definitive stance that we shouldn't be looking for scumpairs day one.Thok wrote:TSQ-here's what I've seen that I would consider "wishy-washy"
Post 245, when there's a big Thesp/Guardian argument going on, with people generally being more suspicious of Thesp than Guardian.
A couple posts lately, when Guardian tosses out Thesp-Thok scum possibilityThestatusquo wrote:I too noted that, though I am not sure what my read on Thesp is. (leaning on agreeing with guardian, though.)
Post 543 when the KScope wagon starts rolling.Thestatusquo wrote:I could see thesp thok, but not nearly as strongly as you are positing it. In addition, I think it's way too early to be looking for scumpairs. Lets just find one scum first, K? Then we can focus on their partners.
There's actually less of this in your posts than I expected, but it's still there to some extent. Actually going over this makes me feel a bit better about you.Thestatusquo wrote:I do like votes on kscope myself, as well. I would caution however that SirT always seems to play this way on day one. Kscope as well, even, so never mind I don't know how I actually feel about that.
Twomz, the only person I have ever actually seen that meta work on was creampuffeater.tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner
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