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Post Post #1075 (ISO) » Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:44 pm

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she started off by voting shafted, she switches to Erg0

why would she switch if she is scum?
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Post Post #1076 (ISO) » Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:46 pm

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Yes, what possible motivation could scum have to put an unreasoned lynch-1 vote on someone other than their buddy right before deadline?
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Post Post #1077 (ISO) » Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:49 pm

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she voted you after deadline passed

what's motivation behind that?(to try to get somebody to jump on you duh)
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Post Post #1078 (ISO) » Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:53 pm

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PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:what's motivation behind that?(to try to get somebody to jump on you duh)
Do you mean she was trying to trap scum into mistakenly hammering a townie after the deadline in an attempt to save their buddy?

If so, wouldn't that rely on her thinking that I'm town?
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Post Post #1079 (ISO) » Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:59 pm

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In thinking about it, that would be a reasonable gambit for scum: If someone hammers and it counts then the town is down a player and her buddy is saved. If it doesn't count then the person who false-hammered looks like scum trying to save their buddy. The scum who placed the lynch-1 vote just has to say that it was a setup to catch hammering scum and they'll be somewhat in the clear.
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Post Post #1080 (ISO) » Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:06 pm

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if you are town and Near is scum, then a scum might try to hammer afterwards

If you are scum and Near is scum, then scum has no incentive to hammer afterwards.

Basically at the point when she voted, Near was dead.

However if near had been on at that time and seen that vote WITHOUT knowing he was dead, he would place a vote on you if you were town because he'd want to save his own ass.

the fact that he didn't implies either you are scum or he wasn't paying attention.

there are plenty of reasons why she'd slap -one vote on you exactly one minute after deadline.

I don't see her doing it as scum.
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Post Post #1081 (ISO) » Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:14 pm

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anyone else notice Ergo's increase in posting...Ergo, are you trying out your page theory to hurry toward the twist?

I still havent reread..hopefully I will get to it in the next day or two, I really just want to reread Near...if he was so obvious after the TG lynch, what else was he obvious about?
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Post Post #1082 (ISO) » Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:16 pm

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PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:if you are town and Near is scum, then a scum might try to hammer afterwards

If you are scum and Near is scum, then scum has no incentive to hammer afterwards.

Basically at the point when she voted, Near was dead.

However if near had been on at that time and seen that vote WITHOUT knowing he was dead, he would place a vote on you if you were town because he'd want to save his own ass.

the fact that he didn't implies either you are scum or he wasn't paying attention.
Near's last post was 2 hours prior to deadline, it seems pretty likely that he wasn't around. Even if he was, it was pointed out very quickly that Adel's vote was after the deadline. I'd say his lack of hammer implies exactly nothing.
there are plenty of reasons why she'd slap -one vote on you exactly one minute after deadline.

I don't see her doing it as scum.
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Regardless, I think we've established that Adel isn't your second option. If not her then who? ckd also fits your criteria, is it him?
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Post Post #1083 (ISO) » Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:21 pm

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curiouskarmadog wrote:anyone else notice Ergo's increase in posting...Ergo, are you trying out your page theory to hurry toward the twist?
Not deliberately, though I figure that the twist wouldn't be any worse for the town than quicklynching me. Plus, if I'm going to be lynched then I might as well try to make myself at least somewhat useful first by trying to get something better than "he's scum" out of the voters.

I commend your decision to reread Near.
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Post Post #1084 (ISO) » Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:23 pm

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talk about trying to change the subject, he is like "lets talk about people other than me you think are scummy" did anyone notice him implying that he could settle on lynching pooky with me?
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Post Post #1085 (ISO) » Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:27 pm

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Near wrote:Reminder: deadline is 7:40 PM tonight. Unfortunately, I am in the process of moving so I don't think I can check this game regularly. I will try to sign on by 7:00 PM ish and see if changing my vote can lynch someone.

Can you guys try to find a best lynch candidate before then.

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This is his last post

he said he'd be on

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Post Post #1086 (ISO) » Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:28 pm

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um, because changing his vote would change the outcome of the day, much.
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Post Post #1087 (ISO) » Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:29 pm

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You guys hammered Erg0 ?
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Post Post #1088 (ISO) » Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:30 pm

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Do you expect me to restrict myself to posting defence? Is that what you would expect a good townie to do in my situation?

Also, where did I imply that I would settle on lynching Pooky? He's my second option, but only if there's no possibility of you being lynched.
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Post Post #1089 (ISO) » Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:31 pm

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:You guys hammered Erg0 ?
No, unless I miscounted.
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Post Post #1090 (ISO) » Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:31 pm

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Woah, Erg0. I think they just hammered you. I can't believe it.
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Post Post #1091 (ISO) » Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:33 pm

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Final
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Pooky - Shafted
Erg0 - Adel, Volkan, Pooky
Adel - Erg0

6 alive, 3 to fire.

Last chance to correct me hehe
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Post Post #1092 (ISO) » Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:33 pm

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(confused)...I guess the twist is coming.
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Post Post #1093 (ISO) » Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:33 pm

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PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
Near wrote:Reminder: deadline is 7:40 PM tonight. Unfortunately, I am in the process of moving so I don't think I can check this game regularly. I will try to sign on by 7:00 PM ish and see if changing my vote can lynch someone.

Can you guys try to find a best lynch candidate before then.

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Adel: I am 26
Vollkan, please do a re-read. At this point, I have confidence in you.
Please for my sake get some discussions going and try to find the best lynch.
This is his last post

he said he'd be on

why would he choose to not be on?
That post says that he's busy and would
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to be on about 40 minutes before deadline to see if there was another wagon that he could get on. You're assuming that he was lying, because I don't see anything in there that implies he had full control of his situation.
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Post Post #1094 (ISO) » Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:33 pm

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There's no twist, you just hammered Erg0!!
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Post Post #1095 (ISO) » Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:34 pm

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:

Final vote count


Pooky - Shafted
Erg0 - Adel, Volkan, Pooky
Adel - Erg0

6 alive, 3 to fire.

Last chance to correct me hehe
In case you're seriously asking for a correction, it's four to lynch under usual rules.
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Post Post #1096 (ISO) » Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:34 pm

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take us down the rabbit hole Dr. House.
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Post Post #1097 (ISO) » Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:36 pm

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Erg0 wrote:
Albert B. Rampage wrote:

Final vote count


Pooky - Shafted
Erg0 - Adel, Volkan, Pooky
Adel - Erg0

6 alive, 3 to fire.

Last chance to correct me hehe
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Whew. You scared me. Thought you were gone for a second there.
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Post Post #1098 (ISO) » Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:36 pm

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Carry on :)
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Post Post #1099 (ISO) » Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:37 pm

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Sigh.
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