Mini 546: House Mafia - Game Over

[vollkan]

Pooky - Shafted
Erg0 - Adel, Volkan, Pooky
Adel - Erg0

6 alive, 3 to fire.

Last chance to correct me hehe

6 alive = 4 to lynch

(Unless this is the twist )

[curiouskarmadog]

so what happens when we get to page 45...got I got this feeling the Ramp and Ergo are trying to get us there..

I wonder why I am getting that feeling...tell me that I am not crazy here.

[vollkan]

....sarnathed badly

[curiouskarmadog]

cross posts like a bitch....

[Albert B. Rampage]

6 active, 4 to fire. Ignore the error of my quicklynching ways.

[vollkan]

Should we also ignore the fact that you were so evidently excited by the fact that Erg0 was lynched?

Woah, Erg0. I think they just hammered you. I can't believe it.

There's no twist, you just hammered Erg0!!

[vollkan]

Oh, and I realise - from that second quote Albert has inadvertently informed us that we

can

dodge the twist by hammering.

[Albert B. Rampage]

A person may be fired anywhere during the case, regardless of the twist and the final diagnostic.

[vollkan]

Oh, and I realise - I am an idiot

[shaft.ed]

For a couple guys afraid of the dreaded twist, you certainly like to spam up the thread. Curiosity killed the cat and all that jazz.

[Erg0]

Should we also ignore the fact that you were so evidently excited by the fact that Erg0 was lynched?

Woah, Erg0. I think they just hammered you. I can't believe it.

There's no twist, you just hammered Erg0!!

I'm fairly sure he wasn't actually going to go through with the lynch, but you never know with Albert I suppose.

vollkan, am I correct in assuming that your vote is based on your case in 929? If so, I'll give you a response in the near future.

I'd also like to ask for a day or so to write a full case against Adel. It's becoming clear that I can't rely on others to reach the same conclusions as me on their own.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

unvote

you got time dawg

[shaft.ed]

I just got this crazy idea. Maybe we're supposed to actually use the nicknames we made up? Why didn't you think of this before Mr. to-the-point?

[Erg0]

I'm being selective here, so please point out anything that I didn't address.

30: Thinks we are choosing between shafted, jive and CKD (If erg0 is scum, this probably means one of shaft.ed and ckd is also -

probably

). Raises weak arguments against shaft.ed - that he seems to be trying to appear active, but has some "good stuff". Says TJM has done "some scummy things (e.g. twice FoSing and then switching to a vote after pressure was applied)" - raises as potential newbie, but expresses willingness to lynch (which he didn't do for shaft.ed)

The first sentence is now impossible, obv. This was more or less just preliminary reads.

31: Some of shaft.ed's posts have been "somewhat weak"

Pot. Kettle. Black

I think you've misinterpreted what I meant here - I was referencing my disagreement with a number of the scumtells that shaft.ed was using on day 1.

32: Denies over-reaction as a tell for CKD
40: Expresses suspicion about Beep's hammer
41: Votes Beep. The reasons are very "broad":

He seems like a pretty good option for a day 1 lynch, I'd say. Even if the hammer truly was an accident, the vote was wagonny, and his predecessor was fairly scummy. Also, I don't want to spend five pages arguing about him tomorrow.

Effectively, the only reason he gives is a reference to the play of TJM and that he doesn't want Beep remaining come D2.

I can only agree, that was a poor vote on my part. I'd lost focus on armlx as he wasn't a lynch candidate for me, and failed to consider the possibility that if Beep was a townie then he would jump in and drop the quick hammer. As such, I voted in a "wagon" frame of mind rather than a "lynch" frame of mind, and allowed my standard of proof to drop. I did think that Beep had a decent chance of being scum, but I really wasn't ready to go home at that point.

44-54: On TG's alleged distancing from Beep's lynch. Erg0 is in the right here.
61: Thinks CKD is very likely town given interaction with armlx. Iffy on Adel since she had her vote on armlx, but also attacked the TJM wagon despite having been on it. Suspects myself and shaft.ed more since we weren't on the wagon

I'm increasingly becoming interested in Adel's posts in this part of the game. More on that later.

62-64: Summarises armlx interactions. Concludes shaft.ed is likely scumbuddy and votes accordingly.
71: Suspects TG for his sudden turn on armlx
80: Votes TG for the megaFoS and armlx interactions

This is where I start to get on top of things a bit more than I was on day 1. Seems kind of skimmed over, there's a fair bit of content in those posts.

87: Votes Adel. Why?

Watch this space.

Erg0's been hanging in the background for most of this game, and that worries me. I don't find too much which is suspect in what he has said, but the way he has been making many posts whilst hanging back somewhat is concerning. I put him at

55%

. Again, I prefer N

That's your conclusion from the PbP.

Erg0 is most concerning me at this stage. His play has been to hang back in a manner that suggests he is keeping his cards too close to his chest, and his Beep vote seems particularly "forced" (to use CKD's description).

That's from the post where you vote me. You don't give any further reasons when you revote today, so I'm assuming that this applies to the latter vote as well.

I can't deny that I wasn't really on top of things on day 1, but I don't think I've been "hanging back" since then - I did a fair bit of analysis and took strong positions on TG and shaft.ed on day 2, as well as looking in some detail at all of the other players. I'm mildly perturbed that you skipped over this somewhat in your PbP, but I'll assume that's due to haste rather than duplicity. I concede that the day 1 vote was a bad move, but I don't think that you've even established that my vote was scummy rather than just dumb. I certainly don't think that this case is a fair basis for an attempt at a speedlynch, and I'd especially caution against becoming too casual about mislynches just because we have a couple to spare.

[curiouskarmadog]

guess what sticks out is your timing when you decided to take strong positions and WHO you took strong positions on.

[Erg0]

That's arguable, but it's not part of the case that vollkan presented as a basis for his vote.

I think that there was a good basis for my suspicions and I provided plenty of background reasoning. This type of thing has worked well for me in the past - e.g. I had VitaminR in my top three on day 2 of Calvin & Hobbes based on this type of analysis (right before he killed me).

I'm not sure what you mean about the timing, though. Can you please clarify what you find suspicious there?

[Erg0]

I think Shaft Head might be onto something, btw.

[Adel]

vote:nud suck

[Albert B. Rampage]

bomb: hospital

You can't vote your nicknames. Vote for players.

[Adel]

bomb: hospital

You can't vote your nicknames. Vote for players.

dude, you should give me an extra vote for being so quick to go with your theme. It demonstrates that I am clever and motivated to cooperate with you and the spirit you have for your game. By blatantly brown-nosing like this I'm totally in character, as I have been all game. You should reward me by giving me an extra vote so that I can hammer Erg0 with it. Pretty please? I am very charming and convincing, and you want to give me an extra vote *voodoo* it was always your idea to give the first person to use a nickname with a vote an extra vote. So my second vote counts, right?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Write me a poem and I'll consider giving a day-kill....

[Erg0]

Roses are red
Violets are blue
This game is awesome
And Albert is too

[Erg0]

Also, if someone kills me before I finish this Adel analysis I will hunt them down and fillet them.

[curiouskarmadog]

so the poem bit is open for everyone?..does it have to be about you?

[Adel]

Write me a poem and I'll consider giving a day-kill....

nud sud (Erg0) and his horse-suddin' nud-smell
croaked just after messing with Adel
'ause I'm foul w/ a grin
close to one Olsen twin
and I ring that bitch's head like a bell