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Post Post #725 (ISO) » Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:04 am

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^same lol (about the quick reply button)
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Post Post #726 (ISO) » Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:35 am

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Yes! New page! Quick reply is back on the screen!

The 1 interesting thing I've noticed from that chart so far is antithesis has yet to make a vote.
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Post Post #727 (ISO) » Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:36 am

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Nobody quote the table or we are going to have a problem.
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Post Post #728 (ISO) » Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:54 am

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Popular Lynch ideas I see most likely to be scum: tlp, Lloyd, and WhoMe?

Popular Lynch ideas I see most unlikely to be scum: Charity and TSN

just my opinion. Therefore, for now, I'm going back to
vote: tlp
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Post Post #729 (ISO) » Fri Mar 07, 2008 8:01 am

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skitzer wrote:Popular Lynch ideas I see most likely to be scum: tlp, Lloyd, and WhoMe?

Popular Lynch ideas I see most unlikely to be scum: Charity and TSN

just my opinion. Therefore, for now, I'm going back to
vote: tlp
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And you can also explain why you are only willing to vote for so called 'popular lynch' candidates.

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Post Post #730 (ISO) » Fri Mar 07, 2008 8:07 am

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Well, Killa Seven's first post seems like a way to validate his somewhat lurkiness, and then from there, most of his points consist of either 1 sentence retorts that make no sense if you just read his posts, or a quote and then a restating or maybe a minor tweakage of facts. Now, from my point of view, not scum hunting isn't a scum tell to me (I've been incorrectly lynched for it), so it doesn't really hit me. I'm just not sure why we're are so much focus on him.

Originally I had my vote on tlp, and I just took it off because the game had gone a little crazy. I see Charity and TSN as a wrong lynch due to their current playstyles.
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Post Post #731 (ISO) » Fri Mar 07, 2008 8:21 am

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Im sorry. Ill be a bit more specific. Ill quote posts of his which I find scummy, and you can do your best to explain them away. Then i'll explain why i think they are scummy, which means my opinions go down on paper aswell-its a Win-Win :)

1.
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Rosso Carne wrote:alright, issue solved.

the next person who talks about the cult recruiter as if its going to help the town to do so is going to be personally murdered.
so your basically saying your either scum or a sk? and you can kill someone..
vote rosso carne
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Khelvaster wrote:. Right now, he is a contributing, pro-town player. He's almost confirmed himself as town by claiming miller straight-off.
eh not entirely true making miller vlaims doesnt mean you arent realy scum. btw i dont think hes scum i was just pointing that out
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farside22 wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:Farside. vote for Killa 7 plz.

kthxbai
Okay
Unvote: Vote Killa seven
wow this is a earie post.. sum buddies? and why did u pick me from the bandwagon.. u vote hope more than anyone else in this game bm.. smh
Those 3 will do for now. I'll leave the other posts which are merely exhibitions of lurking in plain sight, as you have already acknowledged them.

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Post Post #732 (ISO) » Fri Mar 07, 2008 8:28 am

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My wordage is in
pretty green, and bolded

Battle Mage wrote:Im sorry. Ill be a bit more specific. Ill quote posts of his which I find scummy, and you can do your best to explain them away. Then i'll explain why i think they are scummy, which means my opinions go down on paper aswell-its a Win-Win :)

1.
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Rosso Carne wrote:alright, issue solved.

the next person who talks about the cult recruiter as if its going to help the town to do so is going to be personally murdered.
so your basically saying your either scum or a sk? and you can kill someone..
vote rosso carne
I believe I thought the exact same thing, but then I played with rosso in another game and realized this was just his playstyle. Therefore, I don't find this very scummy.

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Khelvaster wrote:. Right now, he is a contributing, pro-town player. He's almost confirmed himself as town by claiming miller straight-off.
eh not entirely true making miller vlaims doesnt mean you arent realy scum. btw i dont think hes scum i was just pointing that out
Hmm...is it contradictory. But could explain how exactly you find that scummy, because I'm not exactly sure I get it.


3.
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farside22 wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:Farside. vote for Killa 7 plz.

kthxbai
Okay
Unvote: Vote Killa seven
wow this is a earie post.. sum buddies? and why did u pick me from the bandwagon.. u vote hope more than anyone else in this game bm.. smh
This seems like a mixture of OMGUS and not realizing sarcasm and cheek. This is probably the most scummy out of the three.


Those 3 will do for now. I'll leave the other posts which are merely exhibitions of lurking in plain sight, as you have already acknowledged them.

BM
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Post Post #733 (ISO) » Fri Mar 07, 2008 10:04 am

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wordage is not a word

ill be gone all next week.
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Post Post #734 (ISO) » Fri Mar 07, 2008 12:29 pm

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armlx wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:
Imat wrote:...Can we please stop the randomness we've fallen back into? BM had a reason to vote lloyd, to try and catch Scum. killa fell into his trap, as did two others, but BM thought killa to be the most Scummy. So he voted killa, simple as that. Its also possible, knowing BM's other trap, that asking farside to vote killa was another trap. Perhaps he was looking at farside to see if he'd be easy to sway the vote of, perhaps marking him as someone who wants a quick lynch, somebody usually anti-town.

Thats was kind of how I took it, though BM may have had other reasons. Scum won't ask each other for votes, and even if they did, they wouldn't vote the same way when asked. Number one way to expose yourself as Scum: Vote with Scum or give your vote to the quickest Lynch.
You, my friend, are VERY perceptive. :D
Which goes against everything he has done so far. Good learner.
I don't know what to say to this...I think BM was being sarcastic, but that could just be me being paranoid. I think armlx was being sarcastic as well, but not so much jokingly but in a "That may point him out as scum" way. Again, could be paranoia, I have trouble knowing when people are being sarcastic when praising me...Character flaw, if you will.

Anyways, Lloyd's vote counter was both overly large and underly telling. The fact that he bothered to make the list gives me a slightly greater Town read from him, but the fact that it wouldn't tell us anything unless somebody had voted with every single wagon doesn't really give cause to post it, giving me cause to suspect Lloyd of trying to appear a hunter while posting nothing of value. Pretty much eliminates the alignment of the entire post.

Rosso still doesn't make large posts, I don't understand why the pressure left him. Because he didn't post enough of an explanation to make a wagon interesting?

Still, I don't really know about the killa wagon. Perhaps I just missed something. I'll have to reread his posts or something. Or, if anybody else wants to explain their suspicions, I'll look into those specifically. Either way I'm going to reread him, so I'll get back to you all.
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Post Post #735 (ISO) » Fri Mar 07, 2008 12:54 pm

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@Imat: There is a nice post by BM if you just take a look. :roll:

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She stutters "so---much---stupidity" then her head starts banging on the desk. "must -----relieve----pain"
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Post Post #736 (ISO) » Sat Mar 08, 2008 3:42 am

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Imat wrote:
armlx wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:
Imat wrote:...Can we please stop the randomness we've fallen back into? BM had a reason to vote lloyd, to try and catch Scum. killa fell into his trap, as did two others, but BM thought killa to be the most Scummy. So he voted killa, simple as that. Its also possible, knowing BM's other trap, that asking farside to vote killa was another trap. Perhaps he was looking at farside to see if he'd be easy to sway the vote of, perhaps marking him as someone who wants a quick lynch, somebody usually anti-town.

Thats was kind of how I took it, though BM may have had other reasons. Scum won't ask each other for votes, and even if they did, they wouldn't vote the same way when asked. Number one way to expose yourself as Scum: Vote with Scum or give your vote to the quickest Lynch.
You, my friend, are VERY perceptive. :D
Which goes against everything he has done so far. Good learner.
I don't know what to say to this...I think BM was being sarcastic, but that could just be me being paranoid. I think armlx was being sarcastic as well, but not so much jokingly but in a "That may point him out as scum" way. Again, could be paranoia, I have trouble knowing when people are being sarcastic when praising me...Character flaw, if you will.
Rofl. Yep i agree with the paranoid comment. I was actually being complimentary-as you basically read my mind. :o
Imat wrote: Anyways, Lloyd's vote counter was both overly large and underly telling. The fact that he bothered to make the list gives me a slightly greater Town read from him, but the fact that it wouldn't tell us anything unless somebody had voted with every single wagon doesn't really give cause to post it, giving me cause to suspect Lloyd of trying to appear a hunter while posting nothing of value. Pretty much eliminates the alignment of the entire post.

Rosso still doesn't make large posts, I don't understand why the pressure left him. Because he didn't post enough of an explanation to make a wagon interesting?

Still, I don't really know about the killa wagon. Perhaps I just missed something. I'll have to reread his posts or something. Or, if anybody else wants to explain their suspicions, I'll look into those specifically. Either way I'm going to reread him, so I'll get back to you all.
I look forward to reading it. (not sarcasm)
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Post Post #737 (ISO) » Sat Mar 08, 2008 5:22 am

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armlx wrote:Yes! New page! Quick reply is back on the screen!

The 1 interesting thing I've noticed from that chart so far is antithesis has yet to make a vote.
I am waiting for someone to make a rational, well thought case against someone else. So far, all I have seen is copious amounts of 'I think you are scummy for miniscule reason X' sort of posts and a bunch of wagon hopping. To wit I can make neither heads nor tails of where a majority of people stand.

That, plus I think it is entirely possible scum might be encouraging this behavior so as to make it easier for them to hide behind this monolithic wall of inane nonsense.
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Post Post #738 (ISO) » Sat Mar 08, 2008 6:07 am

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Antithesis wrote:
armlx wrote:Yes! New page! Quick reply is back on the screen!

The 1 interesting thing I've noticed from that chart so far is antithesis has yet to make a vote.
I am waiting for someone to make a rational, well thought case against someone else. So far, all I have seen is copious amounts of 'I think you are scummy for miniscule reason X' sort of posts and a bunch of wagon hopping. To wit I can make neither heads nor tails of where a majority of people stand.

That, plus I think it is entirely possible scum might be encouraging this behavior so as to make it easier for them to hide behind this monolithic wall of inane nonsense.
You have a point, scumtells haven't come out, but I haven't seen you posting very much, and we need more serious conversation for scumtells to come out.
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Post Post #739 (ISO) » Sat Mar 08, 2008 6:15 am

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Antithesis wrote: I am waiting for someone to make a rational, well thought case against someone else. So far, all I have seen is copious amounts of 'I think you are scummy for miniscule reason X' sort of posts and a bunch of wagon hopping. To wit I can make neither heads nor tails of where a majority of people stand.

That, plus I think it is entirely possible scum might be encouraging this behavior so as to make it easier for them to hide behind this monolithic wall of inane nonsense.
Why are you waiting for someone to do your job as a townie? Is it because you're not town, and need a strong BW to get behind?
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Post Post #740 (ISO) » Sat Mar 08, 2008 6:28 am

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hey everyone i'm the replacement
can somone tell me briefly why everyone is voting for lloyd and/or the "highlights" so far
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Post Post #741 (ISO) » Sat Mar 08, 2008 6:30 am

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dahill1 wrote:hey everyone i'm the replacement
can somone tell me briefly why everyone is voting for lloyd and/or the "highlights" so far
I'll tell you, the highlights are obvious if you read pages 1-30 along the way you will also learn why people are voting for Lloyd
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Post Post #742 (ISO) » Sat Mar 08, 2008 6:31 am

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Antithesis wrote:
armlx wrote:Yes! New page! Quick reply is back on the screen!

The 1 interesting thing I've noticed from that chart so far is antithesis has yet to make a vote.
I am waiting for someone to make a rational, well thought case against someone else. So far, all I have seen is copious amounts of 'I think you are scummy for miniscule reason X' sort of posts and a bunch of wagon hopping. To wit I can make neither heads nor tails of where a majority of people stand.

That, plus I think it is entirely possible scum might be encouraging this behavior so as to make it easier for them to hide behind this monolithic wall of inane nonsense.
HoS: AntiThesis

Scum Slip Up Alert! Sirens! Big flashing lights!
lol

Why are you simply waiting for someone to make a case, which you can hop onto, as opposed to making a case YOURSELF. If you are town, get some fecking motivation. Your laziness isnt going to help the game. If you are scum, i look forward to an impending town victory. You seriously think we're just going to let you get away with tagging along to others logic?

Conservative scum is my favourite :)

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Post Post #743 (ISO) » Sat Mar 08, 2008 6:34 am

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VanDamien wrote:
Antithesis wrote: I am waiting for someone to make a rational, well thought case against someone else. So far, all I have seen is copious amounts of 'I think you are scummy for miniscule reason X' sort of posts and a bunch of wagon hopping. To wit I can make neither heads nor tails of where a majority of people stand.

That, plus I think it is entirely possible scum might be encouraging this behavior so as to make it easier for them to hide behind this monolithic wall of inane nonsense.
Why are you waiting for someone to do your job as a townie? Is it because you're not town, and need a strong BW to get behind?
townie points for also spotting this :)

@Dahill- Hi there! To be honest there isnt much pressing that you need to know about now. As far as im aware, not everyone is voting for Lloyd, nor is he about to get lynched. All that you need to do before you get on with your read of the game, is vote for Killa Seven so we can put a scummy guy under some pressure. You cool with that? :)

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Post Post #744 (ISO) » Sat Mar 08, 2008 6:54 am

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haha well i'll read first then vote
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Post Post #745 (ISO) » Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:04 am

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why? read through Killa's posts, and then tell me you dont think he is worth some pressure?
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Post Post #746 (ISO) » Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:13 am

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it has been well over a month and we are on page 30, we are going around in circles and we have a ton of information under our belts...I for one dont really know who is scum and my vote is based on little scraps of scumminess. Antithesis is right, we need someone to lay out a case on someone else, but there just isnt any solid information Day 1 to really push a case. soo,

Mod, I think it is time to set a deadline!
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Post Post #747 (ISO) » Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:14 am

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Vote Count Updated at Post 735,

dahill1 replaces Charity, andersonw has agreed to continue posting, still looking for replacements for GSGold and Inconito

EDIT: I think I agree with those discussing a deadline, due to the current length of Day 1, but I also feel the game is fairly active as well, so I will set a deadline for 2 weeks from now for
Saturday 22nd March 9.00pm GMT
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If anyone has any objections to either the time of the deadline or the deadline itself, please post it in bold to make sure I don't miss it, thanks!
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Post Post #748 (ISO) » Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:19 am

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Battle Mage wrote:
Stuff.
HoS: AntiThesis

Scum Slip Up Alert! Sirens! Big flashing lights!
lol

Why are you simply waiting for someone to make a case, which you can hop onto, as opposed to making a case YOURSELF. If you are town, get some fecking motivation. Your laziness isnt going to help the game. If you are scum, i look forward to an impending town victory. You seriously think we're just going to let you get away with tagging along to others logic?

Conservative scum is my favourite :)

BM
This is true, but no real evidence against him, but to go along with pressure on killa I'll go ahead
Vote: killa seven
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Post Post #749 (ISO) » Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:23 am

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Hmm i dont agree with the deadline concept at this stage, but as 2 weeks is quite a long time, i'll concede for now, as long as we get somewhere in the next week.

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