Mini 546: House Mafia - Game Over

[Adel]

Always concentrate your forces when not subjected to area effects or when it risks revealing your position.

You easily could've bussed a member of NLU and/or lynched faster if you had a member on NLU.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

This isn't a real time strategy game involving armies going to war.

How would I know what the twist would be prior to team arrangement?

[curiouskarmadog]

still planning to reread near just lacking the time at the moment.

[shaft.ed]

pooky why do you debate people about the meaning of townie whenever someone points out you haven't done anything all game?

[Adel]

This isn't a real time strategy game involving armies going to war.

How would I know what the twist would be prior to team arrangement?

you wouldn't, but concentrating your forces would be a better ideas for a majority of possible contingencies. Go ahead and list all of them and count -- you will find that I am right.

[vollkan]

This isn't a real time strategy game involving armies going to war.

How would I know what the twist would be prior to team arrangement?

you wouldn't, but concentrating your forces would be a better ideas for a majority of possible contingencies. Go ahead and list all of them and count -- you will find that I am right.

I have to disagree with you this Adel.

I'm agnostic as to whether the majority of contingencies favour lumping the scum in one team, but regardless I don't think that it can be assumed that scum would act on that sort of basis.

Putting myself in that position, the big concern for me would be not wanting to get caught all together. Given that the meaning of the teams was unknown at the time, I find it hard to believe that scum would be most likely to want put all their eggs in the one basket, so to speak.

@Everyone:

I would like each person to make a post consisting solely of the name of the person they most suspect of being scum.

[Adel]

Pooky.

it was pretty easy to predict that the groups would effect voting, with each group voting its own members off being the most likely effect.

[Adel]

I just reread day 1. Wow do trust gossip and Erg0 seem scummy to me.

I still think that both scum are in team LU.

You win when all three of the bad doctors are fired.

I think if all three were on a team we'd have at least one lynch by now.

thinking...

[Albert B. Rampage]

Vote count tomorrow.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I don't believe that's an accurate assessment shafted.

[curiouskarmadog]

going to attack (and post) a reread of Near tomorrow

[curiouskarmadog]

Review of Near.

Dean did jack.

Thantos did less

Near:

We all now know that Near was a newbie scum and is play was obvious as such. He had early attacks on Shafted and vollkan. Near attacked me for not investigating TG when I had the chance.

Near hammered TG in one of the most scummy manners I have seen. Then FoSed shafted again. Near forgets to include Pooky in the age part of the FTA. At this point, Near does not seem to comment much on Pooky and has said nothing about Adel.

Near unvotes shafted because he is at –1 (this doesn’t make any sense to me)

Near’s post 50 says Adel and Ergo went up on his radar, assuming because of their votes on shafted. This is strange as shit because Near has been pushing all day that shafted was scum, why the unvote? Near then revotes shafted, after votes have been removed from him.

Then Near is fired, do to shafted not bending to the pressure.

From Near’s posts I think we can put vollkan away as a townie. I would almost put shafted in that category too, if it wasn’t for Near’s unvote of shafted when shafted was at –1. Near never really addresses pooky, and only questions Adel after she voted Shafted, which I find odd. Why didn’t near ask Adel or Ergo any questions if he thought they were scummy?

Will see if I have time to reread armix…

vollkan once I reread armix..I should have something

[Albert B. Rampage]

Vote count

[/u]
Pooky - Adel

5 alive, 3 to fire.

Votes are reset after a day-kill.

[vollkan]

From Near’s posts I think we can put vollkan away as a townie.

There's a much simpler way of proving I am protown:

There are 3 scum
2 are dead
CKD has declared me innocent

Thus, unless CKD is a townie who decided to lie about the investigation results (and, no, I do not consider this a viable possibility) I cannot be scum.

[curiouskarmadog]

Vollkan I know you are town..I was the one who investigated you..I was making judgements based on Nears posts alone.

[vollkan]

Ah righto

[shaft.ed]

I would like each person to make a post consisting solely of the name of the person they most suspect of being scum.

Adel

[shaft.ed]

I'm not sure right now but as above I'm suspecting Adel the most at themoment. I need to reread early CKD. I've been thinking him town all game long, but the pushing for an Erg0 lynch at the Near deadline was a bit dramatic.

Also I've had a bad feeling about pooky most of the game, but he's not contributing enough to get any decent read on him.

Really don't know where to go from here. I'll get another post up after my CKD reread.

[curiouskarmadog]

if Adel is in our top two..then I suggest we lynch whoever else is in the top two with her...Adel no longer has the ability to vig, I dont know if everyone keeps their vigging ability after a lynch, but if they do and we miss lynch today, that person (if they have their vigging ability left) can successfully end the game...If we lynch Adel today and we are wrong about her..the real scum can vig...this of course does not matter if the vigging powers go away after a "firing".

Mod, sorry if this is a repeat question, we will still have our vigging powers if we fire someone? Or is that power just for today's "case"?

Shafted is the sudden interest in me have anything to do with the fact that I brought up that Near's unvote of you when you were at -1....doesnt seem to make much sense does it, especially knowing Near's alignment.

ok going to reread armix....

[shaft.ed]

Shafted is the sudden interest in me have anything to do with the fact that I brought up that Near's unvote of you when you were at -1....doesnt seem to make much sense does it, especially knowing Near's alignment.

I was liking CKD a bit more before his pressuring me to save Near yesterday, but still thinking him more townie than the others.

This is still pretty much my sentiment, I'd rank Adel > pooky > CKD scummy left townie right. I suspect Near was again going overboard trying too look like the concerned townie as he did post-TG lynch.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You have 1-shot vig abilities for today's case only.

[shaft.ed]

Adel I must admit I'm intrigued. I haven't seen you mention armlx outside of a mild back and forth with CKD.

mini 518 demonstrated how astute ckd cn be as town, and I figure that if he is scum than his hunch may just be a scum-distancing technique.

Adel looking back on the armlx lynch, it seems like your vote going along with this post was what cracked him. Any insights since then?

[Adel]

@shaft: do you mean to ask what my current estimation of his scumminess is?

[shaft.ed]

I was just reading over some of D1 and that stuck out.

Basically CKD had a hunch and had voted armlx, but he pulled it off in the run up to TJM. Once the teams twist was announced CKD said something to the effect of "I'm probably going to vote armlx." Then you made the above statement after I questioned your armlx vote. Then armlx had a bit of a melt down trying to claim he was using a strategy similar to yours early D1 to explain away some of his voting patterns, which was obviously a stretch at best. Then CKD seemed to be committed to a vote given his earlier comments.

Just curious what you thought of it since your original plan seemed to be 1) CKD has a correct hunch or 2) you would try forcing CKD from distancing to bus'ing.

I know later on CKD explained his hunch, but I haven't been able to find that post yet. If anyone sees it please post it so I can reread that section as well.

[Adel]

Then armlx had a bit of a melt down trying to claim he was using a strategy similar to yours early D1 to explain away some of his voting patterns, which was obviously a stretch at best. Then CKD seemed to be committed to a vote given his earlier comments.

Just curious what you thought of it since your original plan seemed to be 1) CKD has a correct hunch or 2) you would try forcing CKD from distancing to bus'ing.

I know later on CKD explained his hunch, but I haven't been able to find that post yet. If anyone sees it please post it so I can reread that section as well.

I don't remember ckd explaining his hunch. I can't buy that ckd would bus his partner on day 1 and then

not

bus his other partner when he had the investigation power.

I'm still pretty solid on Pooky being scum.