Mafia 75: Return of the Mafia! TOWN WINS (really late)

[armlx]

Does WhoMe's last post seem contradictory? Lloyd's mason miller comment seems like an obvious joke, like the self voting joke WhoMe clearly got earlier.

BTW, when doing a post search of Lloyd, be prepared for massive page width.

[Battle Mage]

However, it might be fueled by a -bussing- scumbag.

I strongly doubt it. that scumbag would have to be particularly arrogant/stupid, to mess with what could be a profitable gambit.

BM

[Khelvaster]

dahill1, I'll explain what you are asking another time, but not now.

Lurkerscum are no threat if they really lurk.

Could you justify this statement? I find lurkerscum to be threats because they don't give any material to the town, so you don't think about them, and then they survive and are out of suspicion. This in its very nature is threatening, is it not?

Regarding lurkerscum, I agree with Khelvaster, and disagree with Kaleidoscope.

Lurkerscum is always a threat, because he / she can kill townies at night.

In a game of this size:
- 2 weeks: If someone doe not post every 2 weeks, he / she should be prodded
- 3 weeks: If someone doe not post every 3 weeks, he / she should be prodded a second time
- 4 weeks: If someone does not post after 4 weeks, he / she should be replaced unless he / she has a posting restriction

If someone does not post after 4 weeks, has no post restriction, AND Refuses to be replaced, then I am going to assume that he / she is scum.

In a game of this size, we need people to post at least once every 3 or 4 days to ensure they don't fall behind.

[JordanA24]

Vote Count Updated, oEJo has asked for replacement due to lack of time. Prodding Skitzer and Rosso Carne

6 days till deadline!

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

Mod:

I'm not voting killa, I don't even think I ever was, to make it clear.

Unvote ; Vote: Flameaxe

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

Eh.. nevermind that last post, those two are in a different game I'm playing, apparently I'm not totally awake this morning to make it correct again

Unvote ; Vote: Killa 7

[Battle Mage]

Khelv, please can you do me a massive favour?
join the Killa wagon.

forever grateful,

BM

[Matt_S]

Question: Why are we pursuing killa seven over people like Rosso Carne?

[Battle Mage]

its time we actually ran someone up, and so far, Killa Seven has does nothing to make me doubt the case on him.

I'm happy to take him to -2 and see a claim.

BM

[Matt_S]

So are we letting Rosso Carne off because he's naturally unhelpful? I don't oppose the killa seven wagon, but I don't see why that's the best choice.

[Battle Mage]

So are we letting Rosso Carne off because he's naturally unhelpful? I don't oppose the killa seven wagon, but I don't see why that's the best choice.

its called a meta. If it makes u feel better, ill pbpa him in a sec.

BM

[Matt_S]

So are we letting Rosso Carne off because he's naturally unhelpful? I don't oppose the killa seven wagon, but I don't see why that's the best choice.

its called a meta. If it makes u feel better, ill pbpa him in a sec.

BM

This sounds condescending. You make me sad.

[armlx]

The issue with the killa wagon is I'm fairly sure this is just how he always plays.

[Peers]

Vote: killa

Yeah, I'll join the wagon. Let's see if we can get a worth-while claim out of this.

[Battle Mage]

Vote: killa

Yeah, I'll join the wagon. Let's see if we can get a worth-while claim out of this.

what sort of claim would be 'worth-while' in your opinion Peers?

BM

[Antithesis]

The Killa deal.. is that just a day one thing, or is it a consistent thing regardless of where the game is at?

[armlx]

I've only really seen D1's so I can't say.

[killa seven]

im being bandwagoned for voting lloyd when 5 other people were, how am i suppose to defend myself when thats the only reason im being bw? why dont any of u ask bm why hes tellin u to vote me.. this is getting rediculas there are plenty of other people no doing shit in this game but im being targeted.. can some of you ask me questions or something i have 6 games going so bare with me.

[farside22]

@Killa: I asked this like 4 pages ago, but how about some input from this.

Well rereading Killa 7. His post are short with nothing to offer. His only other vote thus far has been on RC. Did he go into hidding after all this time and think it's time to change his vote. Last comment he had before the vote change was this:

i voted for rosso a while back havent decided to change my vote yet.. were the hell has he been?

Can't say anything about him impressed me.
How about if Killa can actually write more then one sentence and tell people who he finds scummie and why.

[RossWilliam]

I think a meta of killa and a meta of rosso would reveal the same thing, that they both have irrational play styles.

unvote

[armlx]

I think a meta of killa and a meta of rosso would reveal the same thing, that they both have irrational play styles.

unvote

Good posting.

[Andycyca]

So are we letting Rosso Carne off because he's naturally unhelpful? I don't oppose the killa seven wagon, but I don't see why that's the best choice.

It's choosing one of two unhelpful choices. The less unhelpful one. If you don't believe me, check both K7-only and RC-only thread. RC has at least 2 useful posts.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

[quote="armlx" The issue with the killa wagon is I'm fairly sure this is just how he always plays. [/quote]

Exactly. And while I can't confirm it personally, I'm being informed that this is how rosso carne also plays too. So while we could do worse than lynch useless, unreadable players (who are unreadable because they're useless), I feel like we can do better.

[armlx]

So while we could do worse than lynch useless, unreadable players (who are unreadable because they're useless), I feel like we can do better.

Good posting.

[Imat]

Ok, not that everyone has the same opinion, but I'm really getting tired of people hiding behind the Meta. How people play the game takes a conscious effort. Therefore its not all too difficult to change the way you play. There's no possible way you can disregard Scumminess on the wisdom that "This is just how they play." So What? If thats how they play, lynch them every game. Scumminess should not and can not be ignored because thats just how they play. If they're lynched for playing like that, lesson learned. If not, we come to this situation where they could act as Scummy as they want and people will DEFEND them. Meta is NO excuse not to lynch. For all of you who believe Meta is equivalent to the Bible of Mafia, you're only making it harder for the Town to win. So please, lose the Meta idea that seven and Rosso, or any other player for that matter, are untouchable, it should not be considered at all in this lynch. And, back to my comment that play style can change: If they play as Town and act a certain way, whats stopping them from acting that same way as Scum with the knowledge that people will see this and say "Hey, they must be Town again." The only the holding them back is their own intelligence, and to insult that would be condescending. In other words, they ain't dumb, don't treat them as such.

And armlx, what about those two comments makes them "Good posting?" Do you have nothing of your own to add?