Mafia 75: Return of the Mafia! TOWN WINS (really late)

[dahill1]

because you're killa seven, and she's farside

and also if you're lying and we tell her to kill you at night, you'll get in an extra kill

[curiouskarmadog]

farside is lying, id like to hear who she killed and why. if shes really the vig why not let her kill me at night and have no one protect me and vise versa? and how is her claim more believeable? i coulda lied and said yea i killed the bodyguard no i was truthfull, my kill was against a cult recruiter, and if their is a cult would they be alowwed to kill and with the mafia that would be 3 kills.

what possilbe motivation could she have to lie? if she is lying she would be either vigged tonight, or lynched tomorrow.

[dahill1]

farside is lying, id like to hear who she killed and why. if shes really the vig why not let her kill me at night and have no one protect me and vise versa? and how is her claim more believeable? i coulda lied and said yea i killed the bodyguard no i was truthfull, my kill was against a cult recruiter, and if their is a cult would they be alowwed to kill and with the mafia that would be 3 kills.

what possilbe motivation could she have to lie? if she is lying she would be either vigged tonight, or lynched tomorrow.

major QFT!

[Antithesis]

Is it possible they are both telling the truth?

2 vigs versus a mafia and a cult?

[Antithesis]

As for the Farside deal.

She was a replacement, wasn't she? Asking her about why someone else did or did not do something is pointless.

[farside22]

who did you target and why did you feel it was a good move to kill Night 0 witout any information?

I want an answer to this question before I unvote.

I dont understand this post. If he claimed your role, i dont see how his target claim would affect whether you find him voteworthy or not?

Please explain.

BM

I didn't really want to claim and kept on hoping he would trip up and say something stupid. When he claimed who he targeted I stated further about it being more SK then anything. I'm not a fan of claiming since I'm sure to be targeted by scum. However I had a night to think about the best way to state things I hoped by asking for flavor text from Killa that others would ask because at that point I was more certain he was scum or SK. But people wanted a claim and if I didn't claim I think people would have let him off and possibly been protected (since a couple of people mentioned protection) then let him kill again tonight. I really hoped that he had been lynched without a counterclaim, but I guess that was fruitless.
Once again Killa 7 fails to notice my post or comments about who was targeted and the fact I can't answer why since I replaced the person who did the targeting.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

Is it possible they are both telling the truth?

It is possible. Is it likely? I'd say not.

[Lloyd]

unlikely, because i doubt 1 vig can choose kill method, but the 2nd vig cannot

Is it possible they are both telling the truth?

It is possible. Is it likely? I'd say not.

[Battle Mage]

farside is lying, id like to hear who she killed and why. if shes really the vig why not let her kill me at night and have no one protect me and vise versa? and how is her claim more believeable? i coulda lied and said yea i killed the bodyguard no i was truthfull, my kill was against a cult recruiter, and if their is a cult would they be alowwed to kill and with the mafia that would be 3 kills.

I think she already claimed that. The reason we would not let you both live is because:

1. It gives the SK an extra kill, which, with the current state of affairs, we seriously dont want!
2. Its possible that the SK has an additional ability, like a Roleblock, or NK immunity, in which case we would lose a vig for nothing.

Oh and we arent saying you lied about your kill. You did us a favour, and i for one am grateful. But, the aim of the game is to kill scum, and unfortunately, you are claimed scum. Oh and i dont see any evidence to suggest that the cult has a Kill.

BM

[Battle Mage]

farside is lying, id like to hear who she killed and why. if shes really the vig why not let her kill me at night and have no one protect me and vise versa? and how is her claim more believeable? i coulda lied and said yea i killed the bodyguard no i was truthfull, my kill was against a cult recruiter, and if their is a cult would they be alowwed to kill and with the mafia that would be 3 kills.

what possilbe motivation could she have to lie? if she is lying she would be either vigged tonight, or lynched tomorrow.

major QFT!

QFT Pyramid!

@Antithesis- no its not possible, again, unless this game has the most dastardly setup ever. Maybe a Vig and a Dayvig would fit, but 2 vigs plus a cult, SK and Mafia? That could be upto 5 kills on the first night, of which we only had 3. And 1 vig is claiming flavour, the other isnt.

So I'm 99.9% sure they arent both Vigs.

BM

[Peers]

We still have a week to talk people, no need to lynch right now.

Translation: "Hey, maybe if you guys ignore my scumbuddy you'll convince people to lynch a hapless town role instead", right?

[armlx]

We still have a week to talk people, no need to lynch right now.

Translation: "Hey, maybe if you guys ignore my scumbuddy you'll convince people to lynch a hapless town role instead", right?

No, translation "Killa is dead today regardless, why not work out who else could be scum for tomorrow before someone who could have input dies"......

Also, I highly doubt Killa has "scum buddies". If you had been reading, discussion has made it pretty evident he's the SK.

[curiouskarmadog]

Also, I highly doubt Killa has "scum buddies". If you had been reading, discussion has made it pretty evident he's the SK.

qft,

Peers what makes you think killa has scum buddies? If Killa does (for some reason) turn out to be mafia, I think Peers needs a closer look.

[skitzer]

Not vig.

I'm still wanting to hear from a Tlp replacement and then maybe switch my vote.

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

@BM Farside was a replacement, and, (I'm not re-reading atm) chances are she didn't have flavour sent to her. If your talking about farside not having flavour in her claim.

[farside22]

@BM Farside was a replacement, and, (I'm not re-reading atm) chances are she didn't have flavour sent to her. If your talking about farside not having flavour in her claim.

Actually I'm claiming to be willing to give flavour text. I asked Killa to do flavor text and he has not replied.
@CKD: Why were you so willing to give Killa a free pass with this statement? Wouldn't trying to get more information and asking questions be better?

it should also be noted that a stupid vig (and I have made his mistake before) is still a town vig and if he is lying then the real vig will kill him tonight..so killa seven is not the lynch today.

[curiouskarmadog]

Actually I'm claiming to be willing to give flavour text. I asked Killa to do flavor text and he has not replied.
@CKD: Why were you so willing to give Killa a free pass with this statement? Wouldn't trying to get more information and asking questions be better?

it should also be noted that a stupid vig (and I have made his mistake before) is still a town vig and if he is lying then the real vig will kill him tonight..so killa seven is not the lynch today.

farside please reread...not do I have my vote on killa, I asked him the questions about who he killed and why he chose that victim, that answer from him made me vote him (and several others as well)

[curiouskarmadog]

edit "not do I have my vote on killa" = "not only do I...."

[farside22]

as for Kill's claim...throat slashing screams SK...I was for letting him live and the real vig deal with him, but that means (if he is the SK) he gets another kill, and I am down with that.

Killa, did you answer the question why you decided to kill night 0?

Someone else asked first it seems. You were not voting for killa at the time of his vig comment. I was curious to know why you thought him dumb townie and did not do follow-up question till someone else did.

[curiouskarmadog]

post 968

fine ill claim now. my role is town vig, i win when all scum are eliminated, each night i send the name of the player i would like to kill. believe me or not, that is my role.

post 969

Did you kill last night.

post 971

who did you target and why did you feel it was a good move to kill Night 0 witout any information?

farisde, no one asked these questions after his claim...at first I thought he might be a vig UNTIL he answered my questions..

Someone else asked first it seems. You were not voting for killa at the time of his vig comment. I was curious to know why you thought him dumb townie and did not do follow-up question till someone else did.

really who? Armix asked IF he killed, I asked WHO he killed and WHY..please provide the post numbers if I am missing something else.

[farside22]

I'm sorry you were the first to ask, but why did you follow it up with this comment?

it should also be noted that a stupid vig (and I have made his mistake before) is still a town vig and if he is lying then the real vig will kill him tonight..so killa seven is not the lynch today.

Why was it necessary to add that comment right after you asked who he targeted?

[curiouskarmadog]

because I thought he might be a vig..."stupid" because he killed night 0, I didnt want him lynched until a.) he answered my questions, and b.) it seemed like a waste of a lynch when the real vig (if there was one) would kill at night. At this point, I didnt think the Vig would or should claim....

however, my opinion of the situation changed after he provided his kill choice(answered my question) and you claimed vig.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

killda killa

[Matt_S]

I'm looking at Peers for tomorrow. His last two posts are perfect to explain my suspicions.

Vote: killa

Yeah, I'll join the wagon. Let's see if we can get a worth-while claim out of this.

He was questioned a lot on what would be a worthwhile claim, yet he never answered. And it sounds like he's only wagoning in order to get a claim.

We still have a week to talk people, no need to lynch right now.

Translation: "Hey, maybe if you guys ignore my scumbuddy you'll convince people to lynch a hapless town role instead", right?

Translation: "I can't let this guy hunt more scum or I'll be dead tomorrow!"

[Battle Mage]

@BM Farside was a replacement, and, (I'm not re-reading atm) chances are she didn't have flavour sent to her. If your talking about farside not having flavour in her claim.

sorry, what was this in response to?


BM