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Post Post #1075 (ISO) » Fri Mar 21, 2008 11:51 am

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Right Farside. With deadline looming, its time to talk business. I believe you have already stated your 2 prime Vig targets for tonight. Speaking honestly, neither of them would have been my top choices.

Now i need to hear from you, how steadfast are you in keeping with 1 of these 2?
If i proposed an alternative target, would you consider it?

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NB: I know im directing the Vig here. But i have good reason dw.
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Post Post #1076 (ISO) » Fri Mar 21, 2008 11:56 am

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interesting to know why...I assume you will tell us tomorrow?
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Post Post #1077 (ISO) » Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:01 pm

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"interested"..jesus I hate proof reading
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Post Post #1078 (ISO) » Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:43 pm

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BM: I don't see anything wrong with directing the vig when they, you know, have claimed. It's like a second lynch, to paraphrase Pie, only this time the logic is correct.
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Post Post #1079 (ISO) » Fri Mar 21, 2008 1:51 pm

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Battle Mage wrote:Right Farside. With deadline looming, its time to talk business. I believe you have already stated your 2 prime Vig targets for tonight. Speaking honestly, neither of them would have been my top choices.

Now i need to hear from you, how steadfast are you in keeping with 1 of these 2?
If i proposed an alternative target, would you consider it?

BM

NB: I know im directing the Vig here. But i have good reason dw.
I'm willing to listen to idea, but I'm sure you understand I can't always agree because scum would like to direct the vig I'm sure. I would like to here your thought on who and why.
My thought are more on TLP based on my own evaluation.
TLP: Post 485 thinks its okay not to post much saying "1 peron a bit inactive won't harm". Doesn't seem to be really reading the game. Post 509 is basically following along with no thought of his own. Post 524 unvotes when pressed for comments. (look to see if game has deadline). Nope none found at this time.
Plus I don't get why he asked for a replacement now that there is no pressure on him. Just doesn't make sense.
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Post Post #1080 (ISO) » Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:21 pm

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Battle Mage wrote:(SNIP)

@Antithesis- no its not possible, again, unless this game has the most dastardly setup ever. Maybe a Vig and a Dayvig would fit, but 2 vigs plus a cult, SK and Mafia?
That could be upto 5 kills on the first night, of which we only had 3. And 1 vig is claiming flavour, the other isnt.


So I'm 99.9% sure they arent both Vigs.

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Bolded mine. I have now re-read and have noticed that farside is willing to claim with flavour but killa has not responded about using flavour in his claim, so the question has less bearing on the game, unless you were talking about farside not wanting to claim with flavour (which isn't true).
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Post Post #1081 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2008 1:58 am

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Vote Count Updated. Two new replacements, Toaster Strudel replaces Incognito and jackalbane replaces oEJo. Please welcome both warmly.
Please delete my comment from your sig...such an awful joke- Battle Mage


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Post Post #1082 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2008 2:35 am

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HA, TS!?...isnt that a DGB alt!?...are you stalking me?
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Post Post #1083 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2008 3:07 am

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UnofficialRulerOfEveryone wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:(SNIP)

@Antithesis- no its not possible, again, unless this game has the most dastardly setup ever. Maybe a Vig and a Dayvig would fit, but 2 vigs plus a cult, SK and Mafia?
That could be upto 5 kills on the first night, of which we only had 3. And 1 vig is claiming flavour, the other isnt.


So I'm 99.9% sure they arent both Vigs.

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Bolded mine. I have now re-read and have noticed that farside is willing to claim with flavour but killa has not responded about using flavour in his claim, so the question has less bearing on the game, unless you were talking about farside not wanting to claim with flavour (which isn't true).
Ah, i see what you mean. By flavour, i actually meant that 1 vig was claiming that he could choose his kill flavour, and the other wasn't. :P

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Post Post #1084 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2008 3:13 am

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farside22 wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:Right Farside. With deadline looming, its time to talk business. I believe you have already stated your 2 prime Vig targets for tonight. Speaking honestly, neither of them would have been my top choices.

Now i need to hear from you, how steadfast are you in keeping with 1 of these 2?
If i proposed an alternative target, would you consider it?

BM

NB: I know im directing the Vig here. But i have good reason dw.
I'm willing to listen to idea, but I'm sure you understand I can't always agree because scum would like to direct the vig I'm sure. I would like to here your thought on who and why.
Ok i can live with that attitude. :)
Simply put, i think Lloyd should be vigged. At risk of looking really stupid if im wrong, id say i'm
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sure that he is scum. I'll try and explain why in a later post, as far as possible, but the root of the question i'm asking is:

Based on my play, how much do you trust me?

This might sound like an odd question, but i havent flipped (yet). Just go with me on this.
Farside22 wrote: My thought are more on TLP based on my own evaluation.
TLP: Post 485 thinks its okay not to post much saying "1 peron a bit inactive won't harm". Doesn't seem to be really reading the game. Post 509 is basically following along with no thought of his own. Post 524 unvotes when pressed for comments. (look to see if game has deadline). Nope none found at this time.
Plus I don't get why he asked for a replacement now that there is no pressure on him. Just doesn't make sense.
I would say that would be a town-tell as opposed to a scum-tell...

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Post Post #1085 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2008 3:15 am

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JordanA24 wrote:
Vote Count Updated. Two new replacements, Toaster Strudel replaces Incognito and jackalbane replaces oEJo. Please welcome both warmly.
TS? Oh shit... lol

@CKD- TS is the account used by DGB only when she is scum. :P

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Post Post #1086 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2008 5:56 am

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Battle Mage wrote:
farside22 wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:Right Farside. With deadline looming, its time to talk business. I believe you have already stated your 2 prime Vig targets for tonight. Speaking honestly, neither of them would have been my top choices.

Now i need to hear from you, how steadfast are you in keeping with 1 of these 2?
If i proposed an alternative target, would you consider it?

BM

NB: I know im directing the Vig here. But i have good reason dw.
I'm willing to listen to idea, but I'm sure you understand I can't always agree because scum would like to direct the vig I'm sure. I would like to here your thought on who and why.
Ok i can live with that attitude. :)
Simply put, i think Lloyd should be vigged. At risk of looking really stupid if im wrong, id say i'm
95%
sure that he is scum. I'll try and explain why in a later post, as far as possible, but the root of the question i'm asking is:

Based on my play, how much do you trust me?

This might sound like an odd question, but i havent flipped (yet). Just go with me on this.
Farside22 wrote: My thought are more on TLP based on my own evaluation.
TLP: Post 485 thinks its okay not to post much saying "1 peron a bit inactive won't harm". Doesn't seem to be really reading the game. Post 509 is basically following along with no thought of his own. Post 524 unvotes when pressed for comments. (look to see if game has deadline). Nope none found at this time.
Plus I don't get why he asked for a replacement now that there is no pressure on him. Just doesn't make sense.
I would say that would be a town-tell as opposed to a scum-tell...

BM
How is what TLP did a town-tell?
I don't trust many people, however seeing your play thus far and claim I'm leaning on believing your claim then not. I think those who over reacted to your claim bared looking at.
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Post Post #1087 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2008 6:03 am

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What is this page 1 votecount business? I can't go back and do my vote analysis! OMG, how am I ever going to find scum....
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Post Post #1088 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2008 6:11 am

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Toaster Strudel wrote:What is this page 1 votecount business? I can't go back and do my vote analysis! OMG, how am I ever going to find scum....
thank god. Maybe now you can hunt scum like a normal human being? :D
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Post Post #1089 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2008 6:14 am

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farside22 wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:
farside22 wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:Right Farside. With deadline looming, its time to talk business. I believe you have already stated your 2 prime Vig targets for tonight. Speaking honestly, neither of them would have been my top choices.

Now i need to hear from you, how steadfast are you in keeping with 1 of these 2?
If i proposed an alternative target, would you consider it?

BM

NB: I know im directing the Vig here. But i have good reason dw.
I'm willing to listen to idea, but I'm sure you understand I can't always agree because scum would like to direct the vig I'm sure. I would like to here your thought on who and why.
Ok i can live with that attitude. :)
Simply put, i think Lloyd should be vigged. At risk of looking really stupid if im wrong, id say i'm
95%
sure that he is scum. I'll try and explain why in a later post, as far as possible, but the root of the question i'm asking is:

Based on my play, how much do you trust me?

This might sound like an odd question, but i havent flipped (yet). Just go with me on this.
Farside22 wrote: My thought are more on TLP based on my own evaluation.
TLP: Post 485 thinks its okay not to post much saying "1 peron a bit inactive won't harm". Doesn't seem to be really reading the game. Post 509 is basically following along with no thought of his own. Post 524 unvotes when pressed for comments. (look to see if game has deadline). Nope none found at this time.
Plus I don't get why he asked for a replacement now that there is no pressure on him. Just doesn't make sense.
I would say that would be a town-tell as opposed to a scum-tell...

BM
How is what TLP did a town-tell?
I don't trust many people, however seeing your play thus far and claim I'm leaning on believing your claim then not. I think those who over reacted to your claim bared looking at.
well asking to be replaced when you
arent
under pressure is far more townish than asking to be replaced when you are taking heat.

Ok, i appreciate your prompt response. Do you trust not just my affiliation, but my JUDGEMENT, enough to give me the benefit of the doubt on tonights vig choice.

The answer to this question will have a surprising significance to the game. :P

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Post Post #1090 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2008 6:41 am

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Battle Mage: Why are you so sure that Lloyd is scum?
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Post Post #1091 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2008 7:27 am

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i agree with Matt_S here. He was scum with me in CotI and his play in both games seems drastically different. I have a feeling scum Lloyd tries to act like he's giving input, but not leading the town, where as I see none of that from Lloyd here. Just lots of random.
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Post Post #1092 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2008 7:46 am

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uhm...ts and bm, vote counts are at:
http://www.quicktopic.com/41/H/nGY8JmZW6Lbht
Battle Mage wrote:
Toaster Strudel wrote:What is this page 1 votecount business? I can't go back and do my vote analysis! OMG, how am I ever going to find scum....
thank god. Maybe now you can hunt scum like a normal human being? :D
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Post Post #1093 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2008 7:48 am

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I think Lloyd has a point here.

From now on, whenever we quote Battle Mage, we should do it in that fashion.
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Post Post #1094 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:26 am

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ill post the flavour in my vig pm if farside posts her mafia role flavour pm.
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Post Post #1095 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:35 am

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Wait, what? Are you saying Farside is Scum now? I would've thought you'd call her the SK, not all the way to Scum...
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Post Post #1096 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:37 am

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Lloyd wrote:uhm...ts and bm, vote counts are at:
http://www.quicktopic.com/41/H/nGY8JmZW6Lbht
Battle Mage wrote:
Toaster Strudel wrote:What is this page 1 votecount business? I can't go back and do my vote analysis! OMG, how am I ever going to find scum....
thank god. Maybe now you can hunt scum like a normal human being? :D
You were not supposed to show TS (DGB) that, maybe s/he wouldn't have noticed. Scum! :P
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Post Post #1097 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:49 am

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killa seven wrote:ill post the flavour in my vig pm if farside posts her mafia role flavour pm.
I asked first. Deal with it.

@BM: I have my own thoughts on Lloyd so as I said before I will read your thoughts on it, but I make no promises, because I don't really trust anyone. Sorry it is mafia. :P
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Post Post #1098 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:57 am

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You also got counter claimed Killa. You first.

Also, please don't directly quote what it says. Since I have come back there have been 2 mod kills for that in games I have been in.
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Post Post #1099 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2008 10:01 am

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Heh, PresidentMaker... I also agree that killa should flavour claim first.
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