Mafia 75: Return of the Mafia! TOWN WINS (really late)


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Post Post #1300 (ISO) » Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:45 pm

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Imat wrote:Woah, Killa, what did you mean by the role blocked comment? Did I miss a Mafia Roleblocker claiming or was this a slipup from you? I mean, it doesn't matter seeing as how the general consensus is for your lynch, but if you are Mafia and not a roleblocker this is very telling of what kind of roles your partners may have.

And I'm rather certain the viggee isn't a real role.
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Imat wrote:So far Lloyd has jokingly claimed as a Mason Miller and a viggee, going anywhere with these claims?
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Post Post #1301 (ISO) » Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:09 pm

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farside, what you seem to be asking, is that if i was in your position, what i would do.

if i was in your position, i would be trigger happy and shoot battle mage and see what happens. worse case, a miller is lost. best case, a scum is shot.

for what it's worth, i now think battle mage has a night power, given him asking people to claim "not vig". then, upon finding two claimed vigs...asking xtoxm and i to claim, then pointing out nemesis' breadcrumbs. it doesn't match up with his miller claim though. and yes, he'll continue to claim miller until he's lynched in this game...

anyhow, i claimed viggee. you should make up your opinion / position about who you want to shoot. it's your prerogative.
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Post Post #1302 (ISO) » Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:11 pm

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hmm, i was hoping to roll a 12 on the die. oh well.
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Post Post #1303 (ISO) » Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:12 pm

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battle mage, how come so many claim requests today?

anyone else you want to ask to claim, but haven't asked yet?

just remembered that you also asked matt to claim earlier.
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Post Post #1304 (ISO) » Fri Mar 28, 2008 5:05 am

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@Lloyd:
In a mafia game if the vig is outted and is deciding the fate of another player at night it is a good practice to find out if said person is a power role before deciding to attack them. You could lose a very valuable person in the game. I'm not the biggest fan of peope asking for role claims and I agree that BM pused for Matt_S to claim without a lot of people looking to lynch him was a bit much. However I too wanted Xtoxm to claim as my #1 target and you to claim because your attitude towards the game is anti anything. You are against BM. He claimed Miller. I think for a 1st day without pressure claim it is not something I see often. I'm not sure why I think it is more possible he is telling the truth then not, but most of it comes from the conversation that took place after his claim. I agree with one thing. If he keeps looking for role claims as he has done I will be looking more firmly in his direction.
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Post Post #1305 (ISO) » Fri Mar 28, 2008 5:54 am

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Well I haven't seen the claim, but to my experience miller's seem to be pretty come in these big type games, i'm sure there'll be one here.
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Post Post #1306 (ISO) » Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:13 am

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Lloyd wrote: then pointing out nemesis' breadcrumbs. it doesn't match up with his miller claim though. and yes, he'll continue to claim miller until he's lynched in this game...
I agree with this. The day I want BM dead by changed from a generous 6 to 4 after that.
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Post Post #1307 (ISO) » Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:55 am

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I don't like millers, especially when they are just plain millers. Is BM ONLY a miller? If so, I'd like him gone a lot faster than armlx does.
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Post Post #1308 (ISO) » Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:30 am

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FOS those 2 trying to get rid of BM like that.
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Post Post #1309 (ISO) » Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:31 am

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Yeah, who'd want to get rid of a "miller" that's trying to get claims out of everybody on Day 1? Oh, the insanity!!!
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Post Post #1310 (ISO) » Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:48 am

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Xtoxm wrote:FOS those 2 trying to get rid of BM like that.
You apparently missed the 20 pages where I argued this point before getting other people to realize BM can NOT survive to the end of the game.
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Post Post #1311 (ISO) » Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:50 am

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Peers wrote:Oh, sure, you trust him when he says he's a vanilla townie... (
This is because WIFOM is fun. I'm sure BM said claiming vanilla townie was like sealing your own coffin... Or something of that nature.
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Battle Mage wrote:would you rather we vigged him and found out for ourselves?

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Xtoxm wrote:I have no reason to believe he is scum a have not looked at a single of his posts yet.

It was more of a joke seeing as the alternative is me.
Oh sure, suggest a random target for the vig.
1: It was pretty much a joke.

2: Given a choice between choosing to die when you are 100% sure you are town vs lynching someone you are not 100% sure is town, it would take someone pretty suicidal to favour their own death.
Lloyd wrote:for what it's worth, i now think battle mage has a night power,
This is obvious. He asked not to be roleblocker, a miller with no night actions wouldn't give a damn, would probably like to be roleblocked as it clears him of killing.

However, at the start of the game we were discussion whether BM was a miller and [insert powerrole here], it wouldn't be that unheard of to have a miller thief or something.
Xtoxm wrote:Well I haven't seen the claim, but to my experience miller's seem to be pretty come in these big type games, i'm sure there'll be one here.
It's not certain there is, but BM claimed and no one countered.

Also BM did claim after the cop died, which makes him look a little better, although backup cops in games this large are not that unusual.
I don't like millers, especially when they are just plain millers. Is BM ONLY a miller? If so, I'd like him gone a lot faster than armlx does.
I think we went over this earlier and he didn't feel like telling us.

Although after calling me "obvious" and whatever else he did, he said the roleblocker should take no action and said he wouldn't like to be roleblocked. Thus he claimed a night action.
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Post Post #1312 (ISO) » Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:57 am

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Wait, correct me if I'm wrong, but don't we have 3 claimed vigs now?

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They all claimed. Now if this is true, that means we would've had a possibility of 6 kills on the first night.

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Post Post #1313 (ISO) » Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:18 am

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One of Lloyd's 'joke claims' was vigee, like lynchee a person who wins by being vigged, not someone who can actually vigging anyone.


Lloyd's latest claim is bus driver, but that probably counts as another "not serious claim" because he didn't actually claim it, as such.

I'm basing this off of 1301 as it is the latest 'claim' I can see.

To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if he came up vanilla townie or godfather. He still lacks a proper claim. (And if he was serious with bus driver, he hasn't even said he didn't use his power last night.)

It looks to me like Lloyd is just using the idea of a bus driver to scare people, and he hasn't technically lied if he isn't one.

At this point I'm still hopeful for some clarification from him, but he's "giving up" makes me doubt if it will come.
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Post Post #1314 (ISO) » Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:19 am

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EBWOP "His giving up"*
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Post Post #1315 (ISO) » Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:25 am

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Oh. Well, by doing that confusing some people, he is not helping the game.

I thought by vigge, he was saying vig in Old English Speak.

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Post Post #1316 (ISO) » Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:35 am

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skitzer wrote:Well, by doing that confusing some people, he is not helping the game.
He's not helping the town, at least.

On a brighter note, he'll be dead soon or he will be unnightkillable.


If he is unNKable then he's probably going to get lynched tomorrow, but he's probably just suicidal.
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Post Post #1317 (ISO) » Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:36 am

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Nemesis wrote:
Matt_S wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:I have no reason to believe he is scum a have not looked at a single of his posts yet.

It was more of a joke seeing as the alternative is me.
Oh sure, suggest a random target for the vig.
1: It was pretty much a joke.

2: Given a choice between choosing to die when you are 100% sure you are town vs lynching someone you are not 100% sure is town, it would take someone pretty suicidal to favour their own death.
The point is that he refused to actually scumhunt.
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Post Post #1318 (ISO) » Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:38 am

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Yet given only two options, suggesting a third would probably not have done a lot, especially when he was in the frame.
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Post Post #1319 (ISO) » Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:39 am

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Although for the record I'm just saying his comment wasn't scummy. I'm not saying he shouldn't scumhunt. I think you were being slightly harsh on him.
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Post Post #1320 (ISO) » Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:44 am

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Xtoxm openly refused to scumhunt today. I think I was pretty nice about that.
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Post Post #1321 (ISO) » Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:42 pm

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UnofficialRulerOfEveryone wrote:
killa seven wrote:why not use me to kill who u guys want to kill :) vig 2 summy people instead of one. both of us cant be role blocked.
Please be quiet and except your death, whether you are a vig or not is regardless, the consensus (and obvious truth) is you are scum, SK in particular. Stop with the talking, and let us get something done with the rest of our day.
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Post Post #1322 (ISO) » Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:04 pm

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Is there any reason we're prolonging that last killa vote? Kinda repeating what I've already said, but seeing as nobody answered me I feel obliged.
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Post Post #1323 (ISO) » Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:21 pm

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jackalbane wrote:Is there any reason we're prolonging that last killa vote? Kinda repeating what I've already said, but seeing as nobody answered me I feel obliged.
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Post Post #1324 (ISO) » Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:55 pm

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jackalbane wrote:Is there any reason we're prolonging that last killa vote? Kinda repeating what I've already said, but seeing as nobody answered me I feel obliged.
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